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skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 01 2011 17:01 GMT

#7741

On July 02 2011 01:50 Madslash wrote:
Ok so I changed around a few things (mainly the motherboard and the graphics card) and came up with this.

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I plan on playing at 1920x1080 resolution. How good of a setup is this and is everything worth my money if I do no plan on overclocking much (I may overclock a little but nothing extreme)? Also, will it be able to run ultra graphics on Starcraft II?

Thanks.

$270 for a 6950 1GB is a waste of money. Why not just get a 2GB variant at that pricepoint?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127588

I'm assuming you want to do Eyefinity at some point of time, otherwise CrossfireX is a waste of money for your resolution. Even so, there are less expensive boards capable of CrossfireX.

Yes, it will run Starcraft II on ultra. You expect too much out of Blizzard.

Kovaz

Canada233 Posts

July 01 2011 17:19 GMT

#7742

Okay, I've been helping my friend build his computer for the past few days. However, while I act like I know what I'm talking about, I'm fairly clueless, so I though I'd double check that the build I helped him put together was actually decent. It's going to be mainly for starcraft, and the budget is $1000. This build squeaks in at $994.

Here it is:
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CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
MoBo: Asus P8Z68-V
RAM: Patriot Gamer 2 Series (2 x 4GB)
Graphics: XFX Radeon HD6850
PSU: Antec Earthwatts EA 650W
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 600T
HD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM SATA III
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium x64

Please note that the CPU, Motherboard, and RAM were a package deal that gave $90 off, so that's why there's 8GB of RAM. My biggest concern is the graphics card; he's sold on that one, but I'm not sure what to think.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 01 2011 17:22 GMT

#7743

Where are you buying from so we can see component availability and pricing.

Is he looking to overclock? Is he looking to do CrossfireX?

The Radeon HD6850 is a good card and will play most games at reasonable settings on 1080p. Of course you could get slightly better cards for more money so the decision is up to you and your friend.

Ballcuzzi

United States20 Posts

July 01 2011 22:37 GMT

#7744

I currently have a EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+
I am having trouble playing sc2 even at low settings i still only get about 30-40 fps shouldn't it be about 60?
Is my cpu limiting my capabilities?

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 01 2011 22:38 GMT

#7745

On July 02 2011 07:37 Ballcuzzi wrote:
I currently have a EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+
I am having trouble playing sc2 even at low settings i still only get about 30-40 fps shouldn't it be about 60?
Is my cpu limiting my capabilities?

Answering your question would require knowing what CPU you have, but it sounds like it. Although a GTX+ could also be having some temp issues and slowing down due to that.

Those things are really temp sensitive, and if they get dust buildup in the heatsink, they get HOT.

Onioncookie

Germany624 Posts

July 02 2011 01:05 GMT

#7746

So i got my new PC thanks to everyone :D

But just a small detail that is annoying me why is my 2500k running at 99,8 Bus freq? xD But in BIOS its set to 100

HuggyBear

Australia377 Posts

July 02 2011 01:25 GMT

#7747

On July 02 2011 10:05 Onioncookie wrote:
So i got my new PC thanks to everyone :D

But just a small detail that is annoying me why is my 2500k running at 99,8 Bus freq? xD But in BIOS its set to 100

Completely normal. Its pretty hard to always get perfect numbers in hardware. Its not like you'll notice the missing 54 Mhz

troynewell47

19 Posts

July 02 2011 05:42 GMT

#7748

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 02 2011 05:47 GMT

#7749

You linked the memory twice. i5 2400 doesn't require a P67 board, get H67.

Otherwise, it looks reasonable enough. You can probably shave a few dollars here and there, but nothing screams terrible aside from that.

I would say OC the card yourself, but I'm not sure EVGA actually has that cooler available on a reference clock card, and I believe that cooler is better than reference or the External Exhaust. (Haven't seen a review, but it has no excuse not to be better.)

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 02 2011 05:48 GMT

#7750

The configuration is good except:

You have a core i5 2400 which has a limited multiplier. You would want a H61 or H67 motherboard since you won't be overclocking, something such as an Asrock H61M U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 . If you wanted to overclock, you need a core i5 2500k alnog with that P67 motherboard.

I'd go with a XFX Core Edition 450 instead, it provides the same amount of power but is of higher quality hence why it comes with a five year warranty as opposed to three, just $5 more expensive after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

troynewell47

19 Posts

July 02 2011 06:09 GMT

#7751

i saw ur motherboard u linked and i agree

now i have a question what is the difference between the one you linked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 02 2011 06:20 GMT

#7752

The ASUS motherboard provides eight channel audio as opposed to six on the Asrock, provides SATA3 natively as opposed to using another chipset on the Asrock, has four DIMM slots as opposed to two, and some other minor things.

If you're going to spend over $100 for a motherboard, just get a P67 or Z68 motherboard. There is little point in purchasing a H67 motherboard for that much.

troynewell47

19 Posts

July 02 2011 06:25 GMT

#7753

imma get asrock way cheaper and why get a p67 when im not overclocking

SleepTech

United States222 Posts

July 02 2011 06:58 GMT

#7754

On July 02 2011 15:20 skyR wrote:
The ASUS motherboard provides eight channel audio as opposed to six on the Asrock, provides SATA3 natively as opposed to using another chipset on the Asrock, has four DIMM slots as opposed to two, and some other minor things.

If you're going to spend over $100 for a motherboard, just get a P67 or Z68 motherboard. There is little point in purchasing a H67 motherboard for that much.

Could you explain the reasoning behind just getting a p67 or z68 even though he's not overclocking? Are they just 'better' boards or just what they offer past $100?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 02 2011 07:35 GMT

#7755

The only thing that H67 motherboards over $100 offer over the other two chipsets is the ITX form factor. The Asrock P67 Pro3 which is a very feature rich board can be had for $110, the only thing you're losing by picking this over the h67 board is the ability to use the IGP. If you wanted IGP capabilities, you would pick the Z68 which offers ssd caching and virtu as well. Both of which also allows for overclocking even though if it is limited on non-K processors.

Rimah

Germany34 Posts

July 02 2011 12:53 GMT

#7756

hi,
I plan on buying a new pc and I need some advice on my build. I have 2 monitors with 1920x1200 and use the pc mostly for gaming and photoshop/cad stuff.
This would be my first selfmade pc and I want to start overclocking.

CPU: Intel i5 2500k - 173 €
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41224&agid=1617

CPU-Fan: Coolermaster Hyper 212 - 25€
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Cooler_Master/Hyper_212_Plus/133337/?
Didnt find the Xigmatek Gaia anywhere so I went with this one.

Motherboard: Asrock P67 Extreme4 - 130€
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43134&agid=1601

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti OC - 193€
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43719&agid=707
or
Palit GTX 560 Ti Sonic - 203€
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Palit/GeForce_GTX560_Ti_Sonic/810380/?
I'm not too sure about those choices, i pretty much picked them at random.

RAM: Kingston 2x4GB - 54€
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44139&agid=1192

PSU: Corsair CX 500W - 63€
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Netzteile/2900099.html
The XFX 450 is not an option (not available).

SSD: OCZ Agility3 120GB (6Gbps) - 171€
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Festplatten/Solid-State-Drive-SSD/120GB-OCZ-Agility-3-AGT3-25SAT3-120G.html

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000528AS 1TB - 46€
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=25683&agid=689
Random pick, the only requirement is 1TB size.

Case: Lian-Li PC-8N - 80€
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Lian_Li/PC-8N/135886/?
I first wanted the Antec 300, but I've heard it is quite loud. Is this one better? I'm open for other suggestions (case should look blank like the Antec300 i dont want/need fancy LEDs or windows).

My budget is ~1000€.
Is this setup ok? I'm especially worried about the case and the gpu.
Thanks for your help

Womwomwom

5930 Posts

July 02 2011 13:43 GMT

#7757

Pick the Gigabyte GPU simply because they didn't quite make a mess out of their GTX460s like Palit did (defective fan profile + shittier heatsinks). No idea about warranty service but I imagine both would be pretty darn bad.

To silence a case is easy. Make sure there are as little air intake/exhaust points and that the case itself is rigid and heavy. Lian Li cases, like that one you selected, will be quieter because there are less air intake and exhaust points compared to the Antec 300 but its made out of aluminium so its prone to vibrations.

A Fractal Design Define R3 costs around 7€ more than the Lian Li case you selected and is a much more versatile case. Depending on your tolerances, you can pick between silence or performance since Fractal Design provides bitumen slates which you can use to block unused fan mounts as well as a cheap PCI slot fan controller.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

July 02 2011 13:54 GMT

#7758

If you're not doing SLI, you can switch the motherboard to an Asrock P67 Pro3. If you are considering SLI for the future, you're going to need a stronger power supply.

soullogik

United States1171 Posts

July 02 2011 14:26 GMT

#7759

well i'm finally ready to build a tower
only need a box. have everything else/ 22"samsung dvi
specifically for gaming.

price range : 625-700$ including/shipping

should I wait for july 4th deals from tiger/newegg

i guess a 650$ & 700$ build would work