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Womwomwom
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benbrad2
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On July 01 2011 14:40 skyR wrote: GTX 460 1GB, Radeon HD6850, Radeon HD6870, GTX 560. skyR you are always quick with the responses ! Amazing Thanks again ! How much of an improvement from changing the vid card ? | ||
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skyR
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Womwomwom
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On July 01 2011 10:52 Mackem wrote: OK. I want a modular PSU. Are either of these good or should I just pay the extra and get a Corsair HX650? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-xxx-edition-modular-80-plus-bronze-85-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-135mm-gray-fan http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w-coolermaster-silent-pro-m-modular-80-plus-85-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-135mm-fan The Corsair HX650 is a very small step up from the XFX XXX 650W. Both are built by Seasonic with an ADDA ball bearing fan with decent components all around, based on different variants of the old S12 platform (double forward primary and individually regulated secondary). Performance is very good but not astounding for both. The Cooler Master is decent but not as good, if you wanted to save more money. | ||
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crazeman
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 Here's my current build that I'm planning to get. If someone can give me some critique it would be great. http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=23936368 Also I have a few additional questions... How much power does a typical computer build use nowadays? is 600 watts enough for this build? How much more power would a Crossfire/SLI setup use? It's highly unlikely that I'd go crossfire in the future but it's nice to know how much headroom i would need. Is there a specific type of ram I need to pair with the CPU? I was keeping an eye out for cheap ram on slickdeals and from time to time, someone would mention that X ram isn't compatible or that the voltage isn't the same as the sandy bridge CPU. Can you give me more insight as to what that means? What's a good optimal HD setup? SSD as main drive, 7200 rpm drive as secondary and a cheap 5400 rpm drive for storage? I'm pretty confused as to what you can do with a 60 gb SSD drive when windows 7 + a starcraft 2 installation will probably take up half the drive already. lastly, I was hoping that I would only have to spend $1.2k including monitor for my new computer and it looks like that I'm already nearly hitting $1.2k without the monitor. It's not the end of the world if I have to spend a little more... but if I'm overspending in a area, let me know  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
A Radeon HD6870 uses roughly 130w and a core i5 2500 uses roughly 60w, both under load. A quality 600w power supply is more than capable of handling a 6870 CrossfireX configuration. | ||
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crazeman
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On July 01 2011 15:18 skyR wrote: You just want a dual channel kit (2x2GB, 2x4GB, etc). Anything else doesn't matter. If you're nmot overclocking, why are you getting a $210 motherboard?! and a $65 aftermarket heatsink... ???? Are you aware that you are wasting a lot of money on components that you do not need? A Radeon HD6870 uses roughly 130w and a core i5 2500 uses roughly 60w, both under load. A quality 600w power supply is more than capable of handling a 6870 CrossfireX configuration. I don't plan on doing any crazy overclocking but when I was doing my research, reviewers said that the i5 2500k is very overclock-able. I will probably end up overclocking it a bit... For the mobo, Asus has always been my favorite mobo company (haven't built a computer in like 8 years though  ) so when I basically filtered by z68, sorted by reviews, an asus one was on top so I went with that. Is there any other motherboard/cpu heatsink you might recommend instead?also an additional question that I ninja edited into my previous post: What's a good optimal HD setup? SSD as main drive, 7200 rpm drive as secondary and a cheap 5400 rpm drive for storage? I'm pretty confused as to what you can do with a 60 gb SSD drive when windows 7 + a starcraft 2 installation will probably take up half the drive already. Many thanks for the help! | ||
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skyR
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It depends on what you're looking for in a motherboard? Do you actually need the features offered by the Z68 chipset which is SSD caching and the ability to use the IGP? If not, you can just get a P8P67 variant. Nothing wrong with brand loyalty, I have an ASUS P8P67 myself. Most of ASUS boards are very feature riched and overclockable boards so it seems strange you would pick the P8Z68-V Pro of them all. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131729 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131705 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703 Such an expensive heatsink is quite unnecessary for the core i5 2500k. An Xigmatek Gaia for $28 would even accomplish a very good overclock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 Ya, that's basically how you want it. Windows 7, Starcraft II, and some other programs on the SSD. Your secondary 7200rpm drive can be used for Steam games and other games, etc as well as storage maybe or you can have a third HDD for that if you wish. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
ModXStream is not that good, and you don't need that much power, the motherboard is way expensive unless you can name a particular feature of that one that others don't have, the Zalman ball style coolers are really inefficient and cost way more than they should, a $90 1TB drive is probably not worth it, and do you really need what Windows 7 Pro gives you over Home Premium? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions How many programs do you have? Depending on what you use, you may be able to fit the OS and office/Adobe/web browser/etc. on the SSD. Maybe all of Program Files, and maybe one or two games? Unless you need over 120GB to store all applications, I'd just get a large enough SSD for those. All regular data on mechanical storage of course. Here's a build from a couple pages back: Core i5-2500k and Crucial M4 64GB SSD - $315 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.673401 Xigmatek Gaia - $28 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 EVGA GTX 560 Ti 850 MHz AR (lifetime warranty on registration) - $235, $215 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 AsRock P67 Pro3 - $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $55 after promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Samsung Spinpoint F4 EcoGreen 1.5TB - $60 (note: a slower drive though it has 666MB platters, so if programs won't fit on 64GB, get a larger SSD or maybe get a 7200 rpm drive instead) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287 Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 XFX Core Edition 450W - $55, $45 AMIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60, $50 AMIR (or substitute your own...) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 extra SATA cable (motherboard comes with 2, and you need 3) - $3.50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270093 | ||
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geethy
Australia67 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + LG GH22NS70 22x DVD-RW Drive Retail- $39 ASUS VE247H 23.6" Widescreen LED Monitor- $199 TP-Link TL-WN951N Wireless N PCI Adapter- $39 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM- $105 Antec High Current Gamer 520W Power Supply HCG-520- $85 Western Digital Green 2TB WD20EARX- $89 OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD 2.5"- $139 Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Keyboard- $39 Corsair Vengeance CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3- $59 Total of these parts: $793 ASRock P67-PRO Motherboard B3- $119 Intel Core i5 2400- $186 EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB- $259 Antec Three Hundred Case- $59 Total of these parts: $623 Total all together: $1416 His budget is $1500, so that total is pretty much what I need, because it will get to almost $1500 after putting in shipping costs. I'm fairly confident with the first section of components, but I'm a bit unsure with the second. Is there a better setup I could get for the same amount of money? I have no idea whether the case is good or not. He's only going to be using it for gaming and day to day use, not editing or stuff like that. And he's definitely not going to be overclocking or going for SLI. And he's gonna be buying it as soon as he can, probably on Monday. All the parts are going to be bought off PCCG. Thanks for anyone that can help. | ||
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skyR
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Basically any case these days you purchase will provide adequate cooling so it just comes down to the aesthetics and whether it offers you the features or layout that you want. Power supply is quite expensive. You can get a less expensive one which has a similar build quality and will provide adequate power for such a configuration: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13454 | ||
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geethy
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SleepTech
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skyR
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On July 01 2011 16:32 SleepTech wrote: Whats better a gtx 560 or an ati 6850? The GTX 560 is better, hence the nearly $50 price difference. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
On July 01 2011 16:34 skyR wrote: The GTX 560 is better, hence the nearly $50 price difference. I guess I mean to say is that price increase worth it? Is it a substantial gain? | ||
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