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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 00:23:39
July 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#7681
You need way less PSU than that. 500w should be overkill, and save you some money.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2011 00:25 GMT
#7682
@Dannnnn_The_Man

What's wrong with having two Klipsch's =p Edifier 330Ds are decent. I have them myself.

@Madslash

You wawnt an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

A 750w power supply is unnecessary for a CrossfireX 6850 configuration. A 650w power supply such as the XFX Core Edition Pro 650 for $90 ($60 after mail in rebate) provides more than enough power for such a configuration.

There are a lot of motherboards that are less expensive than the ASUS P8P67 Pro and are still capable of CrossfireX and a decent overclock. Some of which include but not limited to the Asrock P67 Extreme4, most Gigabyte models, and the MSI P67 G series of boards. The only reason to select the P8P67 Pro over another board would be for the Intel NIC and the Advanced RMA option provided.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:08:51
July 01 2011 01:04 GMT
#7683
On July 01 2011 09:25 skyR wrote:
@Dannnnn_The_Man

What's wrong with having two Klipsch's =p Edifier 330Ds are decent. I have them myself.

@Madslash

You wawnt an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

A 750w power supply is unnecessary for a CrossfireX 6850 configuration. A 650w power supply such as the XFX Core Edition Pro 650 for $90 ($60 after mail in rebate) provides more than enough power for such a configuration.

There are a lot of motherboards that are less expensive than the ASUS P8P67 Pro and are still capable of CrossfireX and a decent overclock. Some of which include but not limited to the Asrock P67 Extreme4, most Gigabyte models, and the MSI P67 G series of boards. The only reason to select the P8P67 Pro over another board would be for the Intel NIC and the Advanced RMA option provided.



Nothing would be wrong with having two it's just my brother would get i guess pissed at me for having them. I guess he wants to be unique in someway lol.d

Would you choose this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121048&cm_sp=Cat_Speakers_&_Headsets-_-Hot_Deals-_-36-121-048

over the edifier 330D's going from 72w to 200w seems like a big jump at a lower price. Although the 330ds are sexier lol.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:40:11
July 01 2011 01:36 GMT
#7684
The Edifier S330D is better than any Logitech desktop speakers unless you really need 5.1 or 7.1. Watts mean nothing. The Edifiers are also arguably the best 2.1 setup you can get for less than $150.
There is no one like you in the universe.
Madslash
Profile Joined November 2010
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:42:14
July 01 2011 01:38 GMT
#7685
+ Show Spoiler +
$219.99 Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=i5-2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product

$154.99 Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130573&cm_re=msi_p67-_-13-130-573-_-Product

$69.99 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311&cm_re=ripjaw-_-20-231-311-_-Product

$169.99 Video Card: Raedon HD 6850 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150551&cm_re=Radeon_HD_6850-_-14-150-551-_-Product

TOTAL: $624.96


$39.99 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-148-701&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2

$49.99 Case: Rosewill Destroyer - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062111-_-EMC-062111-Index-_-ComputerCases-_-11147144-L07C

$89.99 Power Supply: XFX Core Edition PRO650W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014&cm_re=XFX_Core_Edition-_-17-207-014-_-Product

$19.99 DVD Burner: SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

$27.99 Fan: XIGMATEK Gaia Duel Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

TOTAL: $227.95

GRAND TOTAL: $852.91


That is what I have now. I swapped out the motherboard and also the power supply. I also added in the duel fan you mentioned. I don't plan on overclocking (mainly because I have no clue how to do it), but I do have a few questions.

Will everything fit in the case? The motherboard is pretty close, but I've never assembled a computer before and don't know how much space everything needs and stuff.

Will I be able to run starcraft 2 on ultra at 1920x1080 resolution?

Thanks.

edit: one more thing. Is everything I'm getting a fair price?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 01:44:25
July 01 2011 01:43 GMT
#7686
On July 01 2011 10:38 Madslash wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
$219.99 Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=i5-2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product

$154.99 Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130573&cm_re=msi_p67-_-13-130-573-_-Product

$69.99 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311&cm_re=ripjaw-_-20-231-311-_-Product

$169.99 Video Card: Raedon HD 6850 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150551&cm_re=Radeon_HD_6850-_-14-150-551-_-Product

TOTAL: $624.96


$39.99 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-148-701&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2

$49.99 Case: Rosewill Destroyer - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062111-_-EMC-062111-Index-_-ComputerCases-_-11147144-L07C

$89.99 Power Supply: XFX Core Edition PRO650W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014&cm_re=XFX_Core_Edition-_-17-207-014-_-Product

$19.99 DVD Burner: SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

$27.99 Fan: XIGMATEK Gaia Duel Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

TOTAL: $227.95

GRAND TOTAL: $852.91


That is what I have now. I swapped out the motherboard and also the power supply. I also added in the duel fan you mentioned. I don't plan on overclocking (mainly because I have no clue how to do it), but I do have a few questions.

Will everything fit in the case? The motherboard is pretty close, but I've never assembled a computer before and don't know how much space everything needs and stuff.

Will I be able to run starcraft 2 on ultra at 1920x1080 resolution?

Thanks.


If you aren't going to overclock, get an i5 2400 or 2500 non-k, with an H61 or H67 motherboard, depending on the features you need. You'll save money. The 2500-k has an unlocked multiplier for overclocking.

Assembly is easy. + Show Spoiler +


As for the case, that's why there's standard form factors, ATX, micro-ATX, mini-ITX. As long as you have clearance for a 160mm CPU cooler, the gaia will fit, and if you get the correct form factor parts, everything lines up nicely.

Yes, you'll be fine at 1080p, and skyR's builds are generally golden for price/performance. He's really good at optimizing builds. One of the best names on the tech board.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 01 2011 01:43 GMT
#7687
Looking for some guidance. I'm not sure what watt PSU to get for the following:

i5 2500K (Probably OC'd w/ Hyper 212+ heatsink)
Asus Sabertooth P67 Mobo
8GB DDR3 RAM 1600MHz
PNY GTX 560Ti OC2
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD
DVD-RW Drive
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
July 01 2011 01:43 GMT
#7688
On July 01 2011 10:36 Blisse wrote:
The Edifier S330D is better than any Logitech desktop speakers unless you really need 5.1 or 7.1. Watts mean nothing. The Edifiers are also arguably the best 2.1 setup you can get for less than $150.



Ok thanks man, i was leaning toward the Edifier S330Ds. Just im kinda clueless when it comes to speakers. Im going to grab these and grab a steelseries 6GV2 (would grab filco but low on cash) and with the steam summer sale ....gaming is in the midst.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2011 01:47 GMT
#7689
On July 01 2011 10:43 Mackem wrote:
Looking for some guidance. I'm not sure what watt PSU to get for the following:

i5 2500K (Probably OC'd w/ Hyper 212+ heatsink)
Asus Sabertooth P67 Mobo
8GB DDR3 RAM 1600MHz
PNY GTX 560Ti OC2
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD
DVD-RW Drive


A ~500w power supply is adequate for a single card configuration. If you're looking to do SLI than a ~650w unit will do.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 01 2011 01:52 GMT
#7690
On July 01 2011 10:47 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 10:43 Mackem wrote:
Looking for some guidance. I'm not sure what watt PSU to get for the following:

i5 2500K (Probably OC'd w/ Hyper 212+ heatsink)
Asus Sabertooth P67 Mobo
8GB DDR3 RAM 1600MHz
PNY GTX 560Ti OC2
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD
DVD-RW Drive


A ~500w power supply is adequate for a single card configuration. If you're looking to do SLI than a ~650w unit will do.


OK. I want a modular PSU. Are either of these good or should I just pay the extra and get a Corsair HX650?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-xfx-xxx-edition-modular-80-plus-bronze-85-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-135mm-gray-fan
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w-coolermaster-silent-pro-m-modular-80-plus-85-eff-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-135mm-fan
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2011 02:00 GMT
#7691
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 02:01:47
July 01 2011 02:01 GMT
#7692
On July 01 2011 11:00 skyR wrote:
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.


Uhm clarify, one of the ones he linked was a Cooler Master. And I know at least some of their PSU's are mediocre at best.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
July 01 2011 02:03 GMT
#7693
Thank you everyone, my pc order has been placed my and my speaker order has also been placed. Such an awesome forum for help!

Thanks
myrmidon
Jingle
blisse
skyr

Really do appreciate you guys helping me out!
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 01 2011 02:16 GMT
#7694
On July 01 2011 11:01 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:00 skyR wrote:
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.


Uhm clarify, one of the ones he linked was a Cooler Master. And I know at least some of their PSU's are mediocre at best.


I asked if I should pay the extra and get a Corsair instead.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 02:17:39
July 01 2011 02:17 GMT
#7695
On July 01 2011 11:16 Mackem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:01 JingleHell wrote:
On July 01 2011 11:00 skyR wrote:
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.


Uhm clarify, one of the ones he linked was a Cooler Master. And I know at least some of their PSU's are mediocre at best.


I asked if I should pay the extra and get a Corsair instead.


Yeah, I know. But the wording could have made it seem like he was saying both of the ones you linked were good. It could be read that way easily enough. I knew what he meant, just wanted to make sure you read it right too.
Mackem
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom470 Posts
July 01 2011 02:20 GMT
#7696
Oh OK. I might just get the Corsair anyway but at least if I happen to be a tiny bit short on cash I can get the XFX.
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are Olympic standard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2011 02:27 GMT
#7697
On July 01 2011 11:01 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:00 skyR wrote:
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.


Uhm clarify, one of the ones he linked was a Cooler Master. And I know at least some of their PSU's are mediocre at best.


The Coolermaster Silent Pro line is above mediocre.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 02:32:29
July 01 2011 02:31 GMT
#7698
On July 01 2011 11:27 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:01 JingleHell wrote:
On July 01 2011 11:00 skyR wrote:
Both of those are good units. Seasonic makes both the HX650 and the XFX650 but iirc the HX650 is a better design.


Uhm clarify, one of the ones he linked was a Cooler Master. And I know at least some of their PSU's are mediocre at best.


The Coolermaster Silent Pro line is above mediocre.


Okie-day, fair enough. I know some of their lower end stuff isn't advisable for gaming load type systems, but reasonable enough for crap pre-built type stuff.

I'm just horrendous as far as memory on stuff goes, so I try to defer these things.
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:40:16
July 01 2011 05:39 GMT
#7699
Im trying to buy a mid-range vid card. Don't want a high-end that costs over $300
What's the popular GPA in the mid-range nowadays?

Looking for one thats $150ish.... max would be $180

P.S - My current one is 9800GT, using this with I3 - 2100 cpu.
Will changing my GPU improve my fps in other games by big margin?
Let me know what kind of improvment I can expect

Thanks
Whatsup
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 01 2011 05:40 GMT
#7700
On July 01 2011 14:39 benbrad2 wrote:
Im trying to buy a mid-range vid card. Don't want a high-end that costs over $300
What's the popular GPA in the mid-range nowadays?

Looking for one thats $150ish.... max would be $180


GTX 460 1GB, Radeon HD6850, Radeon HD6870, GTX 560.
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