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Rachnar

France1526 Posts

June 30 2011 03:24 GMT

#7641

Well work on it which includes very high graphics and simulations of circuits (DDR3 and such ...)

I dont know to what extent it uses a processor but quite a bit i'd guess. Concerning the GPU i guess the HD6970 should do the trick (anyways ... not a lot of better ones out there it seems^^)

Edit : By surfing a bit more i found this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.675226
It seems it's only missing a GPU and a cooler, i guess it would be a much better build ?

WhiteWolf_

United States39 Posts

June 30 2011 03:52 GMT

#7642

Im planning on getting
Intel Core i7-2600K Processor With MSI GeForce GTX580 1536 MB DDR5 TWIN FROZR II/OC

Is getting the 2600k worth it for gaming+streaming? If not will the 580 be good with the 2500k?

Also how much ram will i need for streaming + high res and graphics gaming. Looking at 8-12 because now i am hitting a limit at 6.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

June 30 2011 03:54 GMT

#7643

On June 30 2011 12:24 Rachnar wrote:
Well work on it which includes very high graphics and simulations of circuits (DDR3 and such ...)

I dont know to what extent it uses a processor but quite a bit i'd guess. Concerning the GPU i guess the HD6970 should do the trick (anyways ... not a lot of better ones out there it seems^^)

Edit : By surfing a bit more i found this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.675226
It seems it's only missing a GPU and a cooler, i guess it would be a much better build ?

Shit PSU, slow HDD. It's definitely a barebones kit. Barebones kits=shit.

On June 30 2011 12:52 WhiteWolf_ wrote:
Im planning on getting
Intel Core i7-2600K Processor With MSI GeForce GTX580 1536 MB DDR5 TWIN FROZR II/OC

Is getting the 2600k worth it for gaming+streaming? If not will the 580 be good with the 2500k?

Also how much ram will i need for streaming + high res and graphics gaming. Looking at 8-12 because now i am hitting a limit at 6.

If you OC the 2500k, it will be fine. You don't really need the HyperThreading from the 2600k just to game and stream, and HT just loses you thermal headroom for OCing anyway. The 580 with the 2500k is sexy.

8GB is plenty for pretty much anyone who isn't doing huge graphics stuff.

FragKrag

United States11540 Posts

June 30 2011 03:56 GMT

#7644

The cooler packaged with the i7 unlocked CPUs should be more than enough for a decent OC on your i7. The only problem I see with that DIY combo is that the HDD is a bit slow, but if you money to throw for an SSD and decent graphics, it's a good deal.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 30 2011 04:03 GMT

#7645

I'm under the impression that you think the unlocked processors come packaged with a different heatsink but they come with the exact same shitty ones that come with any other one. You would likely be sitting at 70c or even 80c load with the stock heatsink with a mild overclock.

FragKrag

United States11540 Posts

June 30 2011 04:07 GMT

#7646

I'm under the impression that the stock cooler can do 4GHz or so.

I don't see why anybody would need to OC over 4GHz.

70C-80C load is perfectly normal for Intel CPUs still isn't it? Bloomfields took 80C in stride at least.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

June 30 2011 04:10 GMT

#7647

On June 30 2011 13:07 FragKrag wrote:
I'm under the impression that the stock cooler can do 4GHz or so.

I don't see why anybody would need to OC over 4GHz.

70C-80C load is perfectly normal for Intel CPUs still isn't it? Bloomfields took 80C in stride at least.

70C under load is reasonable. My 930 is hovering around there at 3.8 with a hyper212+. If I was using that shit thing that came with it that never made it out of the box, I'd be rather close to melty.

I'd personally not want long term use on an OC that was hitting 80+ on the cores.

And I don't see why you'd only OC to 4GHz on a 2600k. If you wanted something that low, you could hit 3.8 I believe on a 2600 non-k.

FragKrag

United States11540 Posts

June 30 2011 04:12 GMT

#7648

oh really?

Then there really is no point in buying the i7 2600k or i5 2500k? Both CPUs will give you more than enough CPU power in their lifespan, and anybody OCing is generally going to have a shorter upgrade cycle anyways.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

June 30 2011 04:27 GMT

#7649

On June 30 2011 13:12 FragKrag wrote:
oh really?

Then there really is no point in buying the i7 2600k or i5 2500k? Both CPUs will give you more than enough CPU power in their lifespan, and anybody OCing is generally going to have a shorter upgrade cycle anyways.

You're the one saying not to bother going over 4Ghz, not me. And "enough" isn't always enough.

FragKrag

United States11540 Posts

June 30 2011 05:02 GMT

#7650

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4478/asrock-a75-extreme6-review-and-desktop-llano-overclocking/4

Memory speed matters again! Interesting read on Llano at least. It looks like it will be the best budget gaming platform choice.

EtherealDeath

United States8366 Posts

June 30 2011 05:13 GMT

#7651

On June 30 2011 05:45 JingleHell wrote:
2TB Hitachi Deskstar for $60 with promo code. No idea if the drive is good or not, but google told me about it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145475&nm_mc=ExtBanner&cm_mmc=BAC-GoogleContentNetworkBrand-_-HDD-_-0628-_-0704

Promo: EMCKDHB22

Quick googling shows (gasp!) 5940rpm, so probably not.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/46575/newegg-2tb-hitachi-deskstar-5k3000-5940-rpm-serial-ata-3.5-internal-desktop-hard-drive

TheAppetizer

United States146 Posts

June 30 2011 05:35 GMT

#7652

Would it be worth the extra $55 to get a gtx 480 rather than a 560 ti? i I would be playing on a 1080p monitor.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 30 2011 05:38 GMT

#7653

No it's not. The GTX 480 requires more power and gives off more heat. Just overclock the GTX 560 Ti to achieve the performance level of a GTX 480.

BryanSC

United States455 Posts

June 30 2011 05:39 GMT

#7654

On June 30 2011 14:38 skyR wrote:
No it's not. The GTX 480 requires more power and gives off more heat. Just overclock the GTX 560 Ti to achieve the performance level of a GTX 480.

I'm assuming you guys mean GTX 580?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 30 2011 05:40 GMT

#7655

No because a GTX 580 costs upwards of $500 while a GTX 560 Ti only costs $230 or so.

Bambipwnsu

Canada698 Posts

June 30 2011 05:44 GMT

#7656

Also the GTX 480 is LOUD

With a decent cooling design the 560 ti won't be breaking your ears in even when OCed

Womwomwom

5930 Posts

June 30 2011 06:09 GMT

#7657

That's my take on the i5 2500k and i7 2600k as well. They're so overwhelmingly powerful that unless you're getting a P67/Z68 board in the process for the features they come with, I personally don't think its really worth the price of a higher end motherboard, $20 CPU unlocking cost, and a $30 CPU cooler. All the upgrade will do is slow down the upgrade period.

I don't really bother with overclocking anymore, turbo boost is getting so aggressive these days (4Ghz turbo boosts what the hell) that its removing the purpose of low level overclocking and I'd much rather assured stability than a few FPS increase.

On June 30 2011 14:02 FragKrag wrote:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4478/asrock-a75-extreme6-review-and-desktop-llano-overclocking/4

Memory speed matters again! Interesting read on Llano at least. It looks like it will be the best budget gaming platform choice.

Memory speed matters on Llano because its got an IGP that is worth a damn; it doesn't matter for Sandy Bridge because even the HD3000 is useless for gaming. It isn't using its own dedicated GDDR5 like dGPUs are so memory speeds will matter in these situations.

Until motherboard prices come down significantly (I'm talking $50-$70 level like H61, AM2+, AM3 motherboards), I'm not seeing how its better than an Athlon II + low end dGPU. Overclocking memory isn't particularly consistent and overclocking the actual processor requires more expensive motherboards and a proper CPU cooler - with that cost, you might as well just get an i3-2100 with a rock bottom H61 motherboard and a low end GPU.

vileChAnCe

Canada525 Posts

June 30 2011 06:23 GMT

#7658

Hey guys I know this is really vague and probably not warrant a post but a friend wants to sell me a computer and he gave me these as specs

intel q9300 processor
8gigs ram
dfi lanparty mobo
2 xfx 4890s in crossfire
watercooled
640gig caviar black hdd
and the 750 watt psu

whats the price tag on that used. I know alot of the specs are missing but thats all i got

. THANKS SO MUCH

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 30 2011 06:38 GMT

#7659

I'd say around $500 - $800 depending on model of power supply, model of case, the complexity of the water loop, and whether or not the memory is DDR2 or DDR3.

SonSon

United States106 Posts

June 30 2011 07:26 GMT

#7660