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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 29 2011 20:32 GMT
#7621
Just out of curiosity, will the Hyperthreading on the 2600k make up for the lost thermal headroom for a higher OC as far as raw processing power?
WhiteWolf_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States39 Posts
June 29 2011 20:40 GMT
#7622
On June 30 2011 05:24 skyR wrote:
You have a triple channel kit. Only the X58 chipset offers triple channel. For P67, you want a dual channel kit such as 2x4GB or 4x4GB.

Why are you spending so much and not have an SSD?


I already have a 120g ssd. Thank you for the help.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 29 2011 20:45 GMT
#7623
2TB Hitachi Deskstar for $60 with promo code. No idea if the drive is good or not, but google told me about it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145475&nm_mc=ExtBanner&cm_mmc=BAC-GoogleContentNetworkBrand-_-HDD-_-0628-_-0704

Promo: EMCKDHB22
Insensus
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands26 Posts
June 29 2011 21:50 GMT
#7624
So it's about time I get myself a new computer and I'm having some difficulty deciding what to get exactly.

What I've come up with so far:
Link (Dutch site)
CPU: i5 2500
MB: Gigabyte GA-PH67-UD3-B3 (rev 1.1)
RAM: HyperX 2x2GB 1600MHz, CL9
GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC (doubtful)
PSU: Seasonic S12II-380
HDD: 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB
Cooler: Mugen 2 rev B
Case: Antec One Hundred

What I want it to do:
Able to run games like Assassin's Creed on high settings with decent FPS (1680x1050 monitor)
Streaming with decent quality. Doesn't have to be top notch but you should be able to see what I'm doing.
Decent video-editing and 3D rendering potential.

Why I post here:
I don't know enough details about parts to make the best decision about what to buy.
I'm the most doubtful about the GPU (whether it's overkill or not) and the PSU (whether it'll deliver enough).


Hoping for some helpful and insightful comments.
Thanks
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 29 2011 21:55 GMT
#7625
The graphics card is indeed overkill for that type of resolution but if you plan on upgrading your monitor than it would be an okay choice. A Radeon HD6850 would be more than powerful enough to play games on high at your resolution: http://azerty.nl/0-970-341966/sapphire-radeon-hd-6850-graf.html

The Seasonic S12II 380 would provide enough power for your configuration but Seasonic power supplies are often overpriced. The XFX Core Edition Pro 450w is less expensive and provides more power, it is also manufactured by Seasonic: http://azerty.nl/0-1073-398442/xfx-core-edition-pro450w-voe.html

There's a very small difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz memory as seen in these two articles: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3 and http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300.html

So you just want one of the least expensive 2x2GB kits available. For editing, you may want a 2x4GB kit.

My understanding of Dutch is limited so I can't really navigate the website that well.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 22:06:09
June 29 2011 22:01 GMT
#7626
@Insensus

So apparently according to a friend the non-reference 560 ti such as the twin frozr you listed can hit 1 ghz without any overheating problems. Meaning you can hit stock 570 performance

If you were to upgrade with nvidia the only one worth buying would be the Asus GTX 570 DirectCUii which has 8 phases instead of the the reference 4. Apparently other 570 overheated and theres pics out there of dead VRMs at stock speeds (lol). After OC you can beat stock 580 speeds.

Anyways just noticed you're running 1680x1050 so NP lol
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 22:08:56
June 29 2011 22:07 GMT
#7627
XFX Core 450W and maybe an HD 6850 instead sound good to me.

You also don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler since the i5-2500 ships with one and you can't overclock the CPU on the PH67-UD3 anyway. I suggest getting a cheaper motherboard, removing the Mugen 2, and then getting 8GB of RAM (important for video editing/rendering).

edit: if you wanted to overclock, get the i5-2500k instead and a P67 or Z68 motherboard. Keep the Mugen 2 in that case.

Kingston 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - €52,93
http://azerty.nl/8-749-230178/kingston-valueram-geheugen-.html

AsRock H61M/U3S3 - € 59,67
http://azerty.nl/8-2528-395700/asrock-h61m-u3s3-moederbord-.html
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
June 29 2011 22:24 GMT
#7628
Myrmidon kindly showed me this build, i trust him fully, i just wanted to get other people's opinions on it aswell.

What do you guys think? (thank you again myrmidon)

Core i5-2500k and Crucial M4 64GB SSD - $315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.673401

Xigmatek Gaia - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

EVGA GTX 560 Ti 850 MHz AR (lifetime warranty on registration) - $235, $215 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

AsRock P67 Pro3 - $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Corsair 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192

Samsung Spinpoint F4 EcoGreen 1.5TB - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152287

Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

XFX Core Edition 450W - $55, $45 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60, $50 AMIR (or substitute your own...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

extra SATA cable (motherboard comes with 2, and you need 3) - $3.50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270093
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 29 2011 22:29 GMT
#7629
It's a good build.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
June 29 2011 22:31 GMT
#7630
@ Dannnnn

Seems like a good build, but I'd go for a Mugen 2 rev b instead of the xigmatek, if you can get it at a decent price.(30ish euro or lower)
Insensus
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands26 Posts
June 29 2011 22:57 GMT
#7631
@Myrmidon
I'm indeed not interested in overclocking but I do like getting a different cooler because I have a tendency to somehow get components to blow up.
Would you advice the boxed cooler or a cheaper one than the Mugen?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 29 2011 23:03 GMT
#7632
Well components can't blow up unless they were faulty to begin with, they were of low quality, or you changed something. The Intel provided heatsink is adequate for non-overclockers. An aftermarket heatsink is only needed if you will be overclocking or you are concerned about noise.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 29 2011 23:50 GMT
#7633
On June 30 2011 08:03 skyR wrote:
Well components can't blow up unless they were faulty to begin with, they were of low quality, or you changed something. The Intel provided heatsink is adequate for non-overclockers. An aftermarket heatsink is only needed if you will be overclocking or you are concerned about noise.


Or if your ambient temps are shit.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 30 2011 02:31 GMT
#7634
btw Scythe Mugen 2 is sold out on newegg atm, but was selling for $40. I'd call it overkill for overclocking a i5-2500k and maybe a bit huge, but it generally should be a pretty high-performance, quiet cooler. As with most parts, there are often many good alternatives to whatever is listed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 30 2011 03:07 GMT
#7635
Hello TL, my father needs a new computer and as he doesn't trust anyone basicly, he asked me to try and find a good configuration

I went on and found a build (cost ~1200) which i think is a good one (he works in eletronical engineering on very high detailed stuff, 2500*1600, etc ...), also it shoud last for like ... 3-4 years if possible, and be able to play without any problem any new game on max (yeah yeah, my father's even more in gaming then i am ... and that's not easy ... :p)

so here it is :

core i7-2600k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

CORSAIR CAFA50 120 mm cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181012

Seagate 1TB 7200RPM 32MB hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

GSKILL 8GB DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

ASRock P67 EXTREME4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

CORSAIR TX750 V2 750W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

HIS IceQ Turbo H697QT2G2M Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
i've a doubt about this one, i don't know HIS so if someone coudl tell me if they're good or not ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161382

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

also as i don't know that much about computer assembly and all ... i'd like to know wheter a sound card was needed or if it was included in the motherboard ?
From what i understood i only need these parts to make a complete computer but i can be mistaking :p
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 30 2011 03:09 GMT
#7636
Are you in France or somewhere else? newegg.com doesn't ship outside of USA.

Motherboards come with audio input/output jacks handled by an onboard audio chip. That's generally sufficient unless you're looking for high-fidelity sound or hardware DSP features.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 30 2011 03:13 GMT
#7637
I'm in the us right now that isn't a problem, i live in both countries.

And thx for the answer.
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 30 2011 03:14 GMT
#7638
Are you going to be overclocking or not? Do you intend to do CrossfireX or not?

You need an operating system as well along with a DVD burner unless you already have those two components covered.

Why select an expensive HIS that seems to offer nothing over the less expensive and argubly better MSI and Gigabyte variants?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
June 30 2011 03:19 GMT
#7639
On June 30 2011 12:14 skyR wrote:
Are you going to be overclocking or not? Do you intend to do CrossfireX or not?

You need an operating system as well along with a DVD burner unless you already have those two components covered.

Why select an expensive HIS that seems to offer nothing over the less expensive and argubly better MSI and Gigabyte variants?


Well i've no idea if overcloking would be usefull or anything so...

And concerning the crossfire i was wondering if like 2 HD6870 would not be better then 1 HD6970?
That's actually why i had that motherboard in the first place but then forgot about it :p

and yeah i forgot the DVD burner also, but i already have the OS
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2011 03:21 GMT
#7640
On June 30 2011 12:19 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 12:14 skyR wrote:
Are you going to be overclocking or not? Do you intend to do CrossfireX or not?

You need an operating system as well along with a DVD burner unless you already have those two components covered.

Why select an expensive HIS that seems to offer nothing over the less expensive and argubly better MSI and Gigabyte variants?


Well i've no idea if overcloking would be usefull or anything so...

And concerning the crossfire i was wondering if like 2 HD6870 would not be better then 1 HD6970?
That's actually why i had that motherboard in the first place but then forgot about it :p

and yeah i forgot the DVD burner also, but i already have the OS


Multi-GPU is a royal pain in the ass, so if he wants "Just effing works", then just go single GPU.

Overclocking can be useful, depends on what exactly he needs to be able to do with the computer.
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