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techn1cal
United States68 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
at least: 1. Give entire system specs 2. Tell us how long you have used it 3. Pics 4. Newegg links to every component | ||
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techn1cal
United States68 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
You should probably pm a mod or something to ask them if it is ok. | ||
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
I want to buy a desktop in the next few days but don't have much money. I've seen lots of builds that seem pretty cheap ($650 for max ultra settings) but they don't include monitor or keyboard or speakers. Anyway, all I want is to run sc2 on medium settings with very good framerate (like 30 or 40, just not 15fps). I am willing to build the computer myself of course, although I have never done so before. I am hoping to spend under $650 for everything including monitor and OS. Is this possible? If it is, could someone that is experienced in computer building help me out with which parts to purchase? Is newegg the best site? Thank you | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
With an OS your effective budget becomes around $550, and if you want a large monitor it could go down to around $400. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
--- Also, really sorry about my change of mind but I am new to this and want to do right. I had a change of heart about trying a foolish future proofing attempt. Here is my revised plan for critique please: Budget with monitor, taxes and shipping is $1000. So looking at around $550-$600 for the computer. Here are the monitors I'm deciding between: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052&cm_re=asus_monitor-_-24-236-052-_-Product http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049&cm_re=asus_monitor-_-24-236-049-_-Product Okay here is what I'm thinking (by the way I live in Toronto,Canada): Video Card ~$100 Processor ~$100 Motherboard ~$100 RAM ~$100 Power Supply, Case, Hard Drive, DVD Writer, Extra fan(s) ~$150-$200 What do you guys think? Should I go cheaper with the motherboard? My plans are to game at 1920x1080, surf the web and do other random techie stuff that I might get into. Future plans are to upgrade CPU and GPU to mid-high end and whatever else needs to be upgraded (ie. more RAM, more cooling). Planning to run Win 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (is OEM okay?). Am interested in overclocking but would prefer to start with stock cooling (don't want to overcomplicate my first build with aftermarket cooling?) Processors I'm trying to decide between: Phenom II X2 555 BE 3.2 GHz Athlon II X4 635 2.9 GHz Athlon II X3 445 3.1 GHz Motherboards I'm trying to decide between (been looking at Asus mostly): Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 MSI 790X-G45 Asus M4A77TD Asus M4A77T/USB3 Asus M4A87TD EVO Should I go cheaper with the mobo? $80? More expensive with it? For video card I'm thinking Asus EN9800 GT 512 MB. RAM, something decent and 2x2Gb. Power supply probably just stick a Corsair TX 650 and call it a day. Case been looking at Antec 300 + 2 front intake fans but slightly concerned since there is no hole behind the motherboard tray to remove the cooler's retention plate. Gladiator 600?? Thoughts? | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
That said, most people will install one CPU/sink and that will be it for 3-4 years, so really for something you do once out out of 3-4 years? It's not really a deciding factor. Other things, like holes for routing should be standard by now, but could sway me one way or another. Cases are really a personal thing though, everyone's needs are different. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
The Gigabyte GA-870A or the ASUS M4A87TD EVO. They are both well worth the price EN9800GT 512MB I have no problem with, but you might be able to find a good deal on a GTS 250 (which is a 9800GTX+) so I would look for that. RAM, lowest priced GSkill 4GB DDR3 kit is fine TX 650 wounds like overkill for no Crossfire go for a 550VX Just buy the cooler with the computer. You really don't want to deal with mounting the cooler after putting the computer together. It's a lot of work even if you have a hole in the back. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
Do you think 550W is enough to run a mid-high end AMD processor and a mid-high end GPU? Let's say for arguments sake, Phenom II X6 and Nvidia GTX460 ? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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Loser777
1931 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:18 mishimaBeef wrote: Will probably overclock yeah, but maybe 1-2 more drives max. You should be fine, if it's a brand that you trust -I say this because everyone trusts different brands. One of the most important things about power supplies that people can overlook (like I did) is to mount them properly, I had mine right-side up in my Antec 900 thinking that everything was fine... eventually I realized that there was no way for the power supply to intake air the damage had already been done -it died a few months later, but thankfully didn't take anything else with it. | ||
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
I just want to build an average computer for the lowest price possible, as of right now I may be able to go up to $750 total with shipping included. So, ideas anyone? | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On August 12 2010 12:08 Fiendish wrote: I don't want any big expensive monitor, something average or even less than average if its significantly cheaper, that's definitely not a big focus of mine. I just want to build an average computer for the lowest price possible, as of right now I may be able to go up to $750 total with shipping included. So, ideas anyone? You are leaving out too many details for us to really help you out. The #1 concern is gaming resolution and #2 if you have any re-usable parts and #3 if you have an OS to use. #2 and #3 heavily influence your costs. This is where someone who builds saves a ton of money, b/c they already have an OS and have hard drives, PSUs, cases, optical drives to carry over. | ||
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Fiendish
United States210 Posts
I have a 2007 macbook right now, so no reusable parts. I have a key for windows xp so i guess i don't need an OS; I hadn't considered reusing it, but that's a good idea. Other than that I have no reusable parts so $750 minus a cheap monitor. Thanks for the reply | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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Loser777
1931 Posts
On August 12 2010 12:08 Fiendish wrote: I don't want any big expensive monitor, something average or even less than average if its significantly cheaper, that's definitely not a big focus of mine. I just want to build an average computer for the lowest price possible, as of right now I may be able to go up to $750 total with shipping included. So, ideas anyone? Here's a rough wishlist I put together for you http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=13667085 You can pick out the case on your monitor... you can also pick a motherboard that supports only lower TDP processors, I like to be safe with motherboards that can handle high wattage CPUs though... You can also get a cheaper PSU, say a 500W would work fine -this PSU would still work great if you decided to upgrade to a 5850. ~$100 is a bit tight for a Case and a monitor, so if you want to slimmed down feel free to do so or to ask for suggestions. | ||
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ReaverDrop!
Canada81 Posts
Power Suppy: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard (rocksolid heart touching). Graphics Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card DvD Drive: SONY Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM Sound Card: HT | OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card Ram: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor ADX620WFGIBOX Fan: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic CPU Cooler (as well as the fans that come with the cooler master). All for a grand total of: $1,106.76 off of newegg.ca, what I need help with is knowing if this build will be able to be put together without any conflicts, especially since this is my first time building a computer alone. I would really like some good advice for my new computer and I if anyone is able to provide help. | ||
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Loser777
1931 Posts
On August 12 2010 13:30 ReaverDrop! wrote: Hi all! I have decided on getting a new computer for sc2, tf2, and other new games coming out and have decided on this build! Power Suppy: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard (rocksolid heart touching). Graphics Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card DvD Drive: SONY Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM Sound Card: HT | OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card Ram: CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor ADX620WFGIBOX Fan: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm Ceramic CPU Cooler (as well as the fans that come with the cooler master). All for a grand total of: $1,106.76 off of newegg.ca, what I need help with is knowing if this build will be able to be put together without any conflicts, especially since this is my first time building a computer alone. I would really like some good advice for my new computer and I if anyone is able to provide help. It looks fine, but you are kind of putting together a machine that isn't very balanced. Why are you getting a motherboard with an integrated graphics chipset if you are buying the 460? It's compatible sure but is unnecessary. You also don't need the Sound Card at all, unless you really despise onboard sound. Also, since your processor isn't a Black Edition, it'll come with a cooler (the Freezer you got isn't much of a better cooler so that is pointless)... If money is not an issue, then ignore all of my advice. | ||
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