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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 10 2010 04:17 GMT
#681
that corsair is capable of running the gpu np
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
August 10 2010 04:18 GMT
#682
Well I thought instead of getting the corsair 430W id get this
COOLER MASTER Elite 460 $10 cheaper
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 04:31:15
August 10 2010 04:27 GMT
#683
Efficiency is significantly lower on the CM Elite 460, which translates to more heat and higher energy bill costs (slightly). It's not as good probably.

As I posted earlier, I think this Antec 300 + Earthwatts 380W case/PSU combo is a good value. That PSU has 28A max on 12V rails, same as the CX430 from Corsair and actually more than that CM Elite 460. It's 80 plus bronze certified and should be a decent unit.


edit: whoops, no combo on newegg.ca. Still see the price though, with promo code or without.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 10 2010 06:04 GMT
#684
I found a person that's selling a CoolIT E.CO. for $40. Thing is I'm worried about leakage, is there any way to further prevent the chance of that happening and should I be okay with it? He's had it up for sale on craigslist since the middle of July, I might try and haggle.
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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
August 10 2010 06:37 GMT
#685
I don't think W/C is worth it unless you have a truly compelling reason. Too much risk when traditional air 'sinks these days are more than sufficient. If you are worried about noise, 5 or 7v a high-pressure fan (i.e. S-Flex or P12).
With no power comes no responsibility?
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 11:33:20
August 10 2010 11:32 GMT
#686
hey guys, im very very sorry about this, its my first time doing this and parts keep selling out as i go to buy them. Right now everything is in line to be bought tonight, i just need some confirmation that all these parts will work together (and that ive got the right parts lol), as ive had to change the motherboard, powersupply, case and graphics card from my initial build.

My build is

Case: Antec 300 (might drop to coolermaster elite 300/335, thoughts on this?)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854
£49.99

Power supply: XFX 650W XXX Edition Single Rail Modular PSU - 13.5cm Fan 6x SATA 4x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191826
£69.99

Motherboard: Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket AM3 onboard DVI VGA HDMI 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169532
£67.18

Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 435 2.9GHz Socket AM3 1.5MB L2 Cache Retail Box Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043
£59.69

Graphics card: Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189741
£131.12

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz Memory Kit Unbuffered CL9
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943
£79.01

Harddrive: Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
£47.72


Total: £504.70

Thanks guys

Edit: Will i need to buy thermal paste (or a heatsink) for the cpu?


lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 12:57:37
August 10 2010 12:43 GMT
#687
I think im am going with the

HIS H577FK1GD Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161338
seems better and its cheaper with the rebate

with this psu
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19268 Posts
August 10 2010 13:51 GMT
#688
On August 10 2010 20:32 Pure.Calm wrote:
Edit: Will i need to buy thermal paste (or a heatsink) for the cpu?

Yes, but don't worry, it's only a few pounds...or dollars..I'm not sure how the price will translate, but it's cheap.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 10 2010 13:56 GMT
#689
If you don't use an aftermarker cooler then you don't have to.
Beware though, the AMD stock cooler is a pain in the ass to get off later.
Rillanon.au
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 14:15:21
August 10 2010 14:14 GMT
#690
Ok so il get some paste, can you recomend a good one?

Will i need a heatsink? I seen someone put one above there cpu in a youtube video

Does everything look like it will fit/ connect together?

Thanks

Edit, what difference would it make to get a coolermaster elite 330/335 instead of the antec 300? Would all the things still fit?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19268 Posts
August 10 2010 14:43 GMT
#691
CPUs come with their own heatsinks. I like Arctic Silver paste, but others will disagree. Put in the CPU, glob the paste all over it, and put on the heatsink. Don't worry about breaking anything (it's quite hard to secure a heatsink to the CPU).

As for the cases, both will fit ATX mobos, so you'll be fine.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 10 2010 14:48 GMT
#692
Just so you know, AMD CPU supply you with a HSF (Heatsink + Fan) that has thermal paste pre-applied.
Rillanon.au
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
August 10 2010 15:20 GMT
#693
Oh awesome, thanks guys.

Looks like Coolermaster elite 330 it is then =P I was actually more worried about the power supply being to big than the motherboard not fitting though, which shows my inexperience here i guess =P
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 10 2010 15:24 GMT
#694
power supplies are all the same size
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19268 Posts
August 10 2010 16:10 GMT
#695
No they aren't. Close, yes, but not the same. Also, modular PSUs will allow you to save more space than non-modular.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 10 2010 16:27 GMT
#696
On August 10 2010 23:14 Pure.Calm wrote:
Ok so il get some paste, can you recomend a good one?

Will i need a heatsink? I seen someone put one above there cpu in a youtube video

Does everything look like it will fit/ connect together?

Thanks

Edit, what difference would it make to get a coolermaster elite 330/335 instead of the antec 300? Would all the things still fit?


I got an AMD phenom 965, and I was considering using the stock heatsink/fan. But, I heard that the fan is god-awful loud so perhaps you should consider getting an aftermarket cooler, regardless of whether you plan to overclock or not. I used Arctic Silver 5 with a CM hyper 212 plus.
life
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19268 Posts
August 10 2010 16:42 GMT
#697
If the 965 has the same/a similar fan to the 1090T, then you heard LIES. My computer is very, very quiet, even when running 5 fans.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 10 2010 16:47 GMT
#698
On August 11 2010 01:42 tofucake wrote:
If the 965 has the same/a similar fan to the 1090T, then you heard LIES. My computer is very, very quiet, even when running 5 fans.


Maybe we have different definitions of loud. I prefer making my computer as quiet as possible, as I can't really stand noise. I have 3 fans on the case, 1 on the cpu, and one on the GPU. I think out of all your 5 fans, the CPU fan will drown out the rest significantly. Since aftermarket coolers can achieve the same cooling at lower RPM, I think it's worth getting one if noise bothers you. But then again, I've never actually used the 965 stock HSF, so I don't know how much of an improvement I'm getting...
life
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 10 2010 17:43 GMT
#699
Most PSUs adhere to the ATX standard, but there are some (such as the Ante CP series) that are made for specific cases.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
August 11 2010 01:53 GMT
#700
@Everyone

Please bear with me as this post is a bit lengthy. I hope I have touched on some interesting points and asked some key questions to spark discussion. I would like to thank those of you who read it ahead of time.

My plans are to get a decent budget gaming machine up and running right now and in the future make significant upgrades.

Planned upgrades:
- upgrade to a top of the line CPU (and overclock it to a respectable amount using aftermarket cooling)
- upgrade to a mid-high range video card and later get a second to run dual (CrossfireX or SLI, not sure which is better?) video cards
- upgrade the cooling systems (sooner is better to keep my components healthy?)
- ensure a strong source of good RAM (4gb to start, thinking of going to 8gb in future)

My machine will be running Win 7 Home Premium for now and will be used for high end gaming (1920x1080 for now), surfing the web, and whatever else I decide to dabble in seeing as how technology has really taken off in the last five years .

I believe that for this to work out how I want there are a few key components that I should not go cheap on for now (correct me if im wrong).

High Quality Components to Buy
- motherboard (!! this should have SLI or CrossfireX support (which is better btw?) 2x16 (beats 1x16, 1x8 right?), preferably USB 3.0 (future proofing), good RAM support, my friend said something about the northbridge being important)
- case + cooling system (extra intake fan or two for now?)
- power supply? (might as well get a strong one now since it's more efficient? also should I risk my motherboard?)

Low Quality Components to Buy
- CPU (something cheap in the $100 range, will upgrade later) - thinking athlon series Athlon II X4 620 but I have to look around more since the Athlon II X3 440 (with its higher clock speed) was suggested by some and was argued better for gaming
- Video Card (thinking asus en9800gt, will upgrade this later)


========

My budget is rather low around $550-$600 (PS. I live in canada, funds are in canadian (divide by 1.03 for US) ) + cost of monitor.

Here is my build so far (please make suggestions to missing components).


Asus EN9800 GT 512 Mb - $90

HP DVD Writer - $22

Western Digital 500 Gb Hard Drive - $40

Corsair TX 750W to run the future setup? Or should I get a 450 W for now and upgrade the supply later?

Please suggest a motherboard - been looking at the ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 but my friend said that the northbridge is not so good and he said the northbridge is important because it communicates with the video card - ALSO I was slightly concerned because this card has CrossfireX support but the latest benchmarks indicate that SLI is the better choice (though my friend says the Nvidia cards have problems with heat)

Please suggest compatible RAM

Please suggest a compatible cpu (been thinking about Athlon II X4 620 2.6 GHz)

Please suggest a case that can comfortable manage my future setup (been looking at the Antec 300 ATX Mid Tower, thoughts?)

Extra intake fans?

Asus VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor - $210


====

I realize I have asked a lot here and I hope that I can spark some discussion. I really appreciate any help I can get as I need to order parts as soon as possible to give them time to arrive before I leave for school. I look forward to reading your responses.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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