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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
WildGuns
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
August 09 2010 07:18 GMT
#641
On August 09 2010 16:11 Myrmidon wrote:
DVD drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB
ATI HD 5670
Antec 300 case and Earthwatts 380D PSU
4gb DDR3 RAM
Athlon II X3, 3.0 GHz
AM3 mobo with USB3 and Sata 6 Gb/s

That should be under $500 before shipping, without a monitor. I think with such a long upgrade cycle, you might as well get USB3 support. edit: warning - no second GPU possible, but that's too much to expect for this price range

Ah, this'll be great, thank you very much for your help.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 09 2010 09:00 GMT
#642
On August 07 2010 15:35 Divine[aX] wrote:
Logitech G15 2ND Gen Gaming Keyboard USB Black Silver Amber LCD Panel Programmable Backlit Keys
$103.20
I might have to get a cheaper keyboard if I can't keep it under budget.


$100+ bucks for a keyboard ...
starleague forever
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 09:15:22
August 09 2010 09:04 GMT
#643
@WildGuns (I'm pretty sure this is a better.)



CPU: Athlon II x3 440 3.0Ghz
Graphics Card: Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon 5770 1gb GDDR5

$225


Motherboard: ASRock 770 EXTREME3 AM3 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX

$75


RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Cas 9

$82


Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 500gb 7200 RPM 16mb Cache

$55


Case: Silverstone PS-05B ATX Mid Tower tool-less installation design
PSU: Antec Basiq BP500U 500W

$85 + Free anti-static wristband


Optical Drive: LG 22X DVD Burner SATA

$18

Subtotal: $539.92

I was able to fit a 5770 in $540, without sacrificing much. O_O I'm really surprised I was able to do it. Anyone else care to comment on the build? :x

Edit: I found an 890GX Mobo and was able to combo it with the Optical Drive and it ended up being the same total. I think you would want this as it's a newer motherboard. It sacrifices USB 3.0 for HDMI, a good tradeoff.


Motherboard: BIOSTAR TA890GXB HD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s HDMI Micro ATX
Optical Drive: LG 22X DVD Burner SATA

$93

Compared the the build above, which I put in my cart and totaled almost exactly $500, for $40 more you get 5770 over 5670 (huge improvement), 120w more watts in the PSU, tool-less case for easier building, 890GX mobo.
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Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 11:25:07
August 09 2010 11:24 GMT
#644
Hey guys,

After taking all weekend to place the order (had to wait till i could make the order) the motherboard i had intended on buying has just sold out!!!

Do people think its worth waiting for + Show Spoiler +
Athlon II x3 435 2.9ghz processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043
£60

MSI HD 5770 1gb GDDR5 Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239
£120

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb 32mb Cache 7200rpm Hard Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
£48

Corsair 2x2gb DDR3 1333Mhz Cas 9 1.5v
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943
£79

Antec 300 case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854
£47

XFX 650w Modular power supply
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191826
£70

Asus M4A79XTD EVO 790X 16x/0x 8x/8x Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172846
£83
that build or is there another motherboard available in ebuyer at a similar price for similar/ better performance?

Thanks
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 09 2010 12:04 GMT
#645
Hmm do you want to be able to crossfire something like 2 5770s later on? If not you can get a cheaper motherboard that's still good quality.
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Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
August 09 2010 13:47 GMT
#646
Id like to be able to crossfire them in the future, but if the one that just sold out is the best for that i might just have to wait. What are the alternatives? For both corossfireing them and not.

Thanks
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19159 Posts
August 09 2010 13:50 GMT
#647
I'm planning on getting 2 of these in a couple days. My local BestBuy has them for $199. I also prefer LG and Samsung for monitors (Asus & Acer....not very good at displays). Thoughts?
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
August 09 2010 14:52 GMT
#648
On August 09 2010 22:47 Pure.Calm wrote:
Id like to be able to crossfire them in the future, but if the one that just sold out is the best for that i might just have to wait. What are the alternatives? For both corossfireing them and not.

Thanks


just buy a new video card in 2-3 years instead of crossfiring
something new will come out that will be amazing probably at a lower price point than a 5770 costs right now
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 15:16:24
August 09 2010 15:11 GMT
#649
Thanks, i guess your right, i guess thats what im intending on doing with the processor (upgrading to a bulldozer).

Can you recomend a good motherboard? will this be ok

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169532
£69

for this build + Show Spoiler +
Athlon II x3 435 2.9ghz processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043
£60

MSI HD 5770 1gb GDDR5 Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239
£120

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb 32mb Cache 7200rpm Hard Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
£48

Corsair 2x2gb DDR3 1333Mhz Cas 9 1.5v
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943
£79

Antec 300 case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854
£47

XFX 650w Modular power supply
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191826
£70

on a 1200x760 (roughly) resolution. Or would i be better with this motherboard + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002KF7BAA/ref=pd_luc_mri?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE


Thanks

Edit: Also will it matter if these motherboards have integrated graphics cards already on them if i am going to be using an hd5770?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19159 Posts
August 09 2010 15:21 GMT
#650
I prefer integrated graphics on my motherboards, just because if something ever goes wrong it's a lot easier (IE: you can remove the video card) to figure out WHAT went wrong.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 15:50 GMT
#651
^ That makes no sense :/
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 15:54 GMT
#652
On August 09 2010 20:24 Pure.Calm wrote:
Hey guys,

After taking all weekend to place the order (had to wait till i could make the order) the motherboard i had intended on buying has just sold out!!!

Do people think its worth waiting for + Show Spoiler +
Athlon II x3 435 2.9ghz processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043
£60

MSI HD 5770 1gb GDDR5 Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239
£120

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb 32mb Cache 7200rpm Hard Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
£48

Corsair 2x2gb DDR3 1333Mhz Cas 9 1.5v
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943
£79

Antec 300 case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854
£47

XFX 650w Modular power supply
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191826
£70

Asus M4A79XTD EVO 790X 16x/0x 8x/8x Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172846
£83
that build or is there another motherboard available in ebuyer at a similar price for similar/ better performance?

Thanks


Why not just get the dual core phenom II? 555 BE for 10 pounds more? Or is 10 pounds a lot of money :/
Rillanon.au
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
August 09 2010 16:10 GMT
#653
Is it alot better? The thought behind this was it might be able to unlock the 4th core.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19159 Posts
August 09 2010 16:35 GMT
#654
On August 10 2010 00:50 haduken wrote:
^ That makes no sense :/

Why? If you have integrated graphics in addition to a video card, and something happens (failure to boot, etc...) the standard first thing to do is remove unnecessary components. A lot of times a computer will be able to boot with just the HDD and a stick of RAM. If you have no integrated graphics, then you can't remove the video card, and if the video card is the problem you'll have an unusable computer until you get a new one, whereas if you have integrated you'd be able to at least use your computer until you get a replacement (and possibly even find a fix without buying a new card).
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IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
August 09 2010 16:40 GMT
#655
On August 10 2010 00:54 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 20:24 Pure.Calm wrote:
Hey guys,

After taking all weekend to place the order (had to wait till i could make the order) the motherboard i had intended on buying has just sold out!!!

Do people think its worth waiting for + Show Spoiler +
Athlon II x3 435 2.9ghz processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176043
£60

MSI HD 5770 1gb GDDR5 Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189239
£120

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1tb 32mb Cache 7200rpm Hard Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804
£48

Corsair 2x2gb DDR3 1333Mhz Cas 9 1.5v
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/178943
£79

Antec 300 case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854
£47

XFX 650w Modular power supply
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191826
£70

Asus M4A79XTD EVO 790X 16x/0x 8x/8x Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172846
£83
that build or is there another motherboard available in ebuyer at a similar price for similar/ better performance?

Thanks


Why not just get the dual core phenom II? 555 BE for 10 pounds more? Or is 10 pounds a lot of money :/


I think the x3 is superior. The phenom x2 will be a little bit faster in sc2 (but not by much), but most other applications will benefit more from the third core.
aka DTF-ZeRo
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
August 09 2010 17:11 GMT
#656
Yeah I really wish the X3 720BE was still around. The best all-round performer, IMO, for AMD considering the price. I rarely recommend the cache-castrated models, b/c that will reduce your IPC. AMD is already fairly behind on IPC, so making that gap even further in the value models makes very little sense IMO. The risk is that the 555BE doesn't unlock, in which case Zero is spot on about the value. I believe the difference is actually 20 pounds (59 vs. 79) on ebuyer.com
With no power comes no responsibility?
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
August 09 2010 17:20 GMT
#657
So the thought is to keep the one i currently have? Also is there any risk involved in trying to unlock the core, weither or not is it unsuccessful? I also think it will be best to assume iot doesnt unlock for the purpose of ecided the best value.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 17:29 GMT
#658
The chances of unlocking 555BE or the the Athlon is the same, you flip a coin and see if you come on top.

The BE is better for overclocking so I would think the DIY potential to be much higher :/

For 20 pounds I would pick the 555BE, 20 pounds is not much considering the 2 or 3 years you would keep it for.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 17:31 GMT
#659
On August 10 2010 01:35 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 00:50 haduken wrote:
^ That makes no sense :/

Why? If you have integrated graphics in addition to a video card, and something happens (failure to boot, etc...) the standard first thing to do is remove unnecessary components. A lot of times a computer will be able to boot with just the HDD and a stick of RAM. If you have no integrated graphics, then you can't remove the video card, and if the video card is the problem you'll have an unusable computer until you get a new one, whereas if you have integrated you'd be able to at least use your computer until you get a replacement (and possibly even find a fix without buying a new card).


Which consumer board don't come with integrated graphics? :/
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 17:35 GMT
#660
On August 09 2010 22:50 tofucake wrote:
I'm planning on getting 2 of these in a couple days. My local BestBuy has them for $199. I also prefer LG and Samsung for monitors (Asus & Acer....not very good at displays). Thoughts?


Crappy stand and glossy casing.

I personally would never get any screen that's not height adjustable and definitely no shining bits. MATT all around.

Since you are a programmer, you would probably prefer a screen that can do pivot as well (rotation).
Rillanon.au
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