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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
August 08 2010 02:49 GMT
#621
The Antec 900 is a terrible case right now. Get a HAF 922 at the same price point

djcube: It would probably be your CPU, though that would be odd to me :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Divine[aX]
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 08 2010 03:15 GMT
#622
The HAF 922 looks rather nice.

Just to be sure, does it fit with this build?
+ Show Spoiler +

Intel Core i5 760 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.8GHZ 8MB Cache Retail Box
$214.99

MSI P55-GD55 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2XPCI-E16 3XPCI-E1 2XPCI RAID Audio GBLAN CrossFire
$89.99

Corsair XMS3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 4GB DDR3 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 9-9-9-24 Core i5 Dual Channel Memory Kit
$89.99

MSI GeForce GTX 460 Fermi Cyclone OC 725MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card
$209.99

Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM
$77.22

LG W2442PA-BF 24IN Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 2MS 10000:1 300CDM 1920X1080 1080P HAS Tilt HDMI DVI
$199.99

Coolermaster Haf 922 Mid Tower ATX Case Black 5X5.25 5X3.5INT Front Audio USB eSATA No PSU
$89.98

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V 24PIN Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
$19.99

Logitech Access Keyboard 600 USB Black
$21.99

Pioneer DVR-218DBK CD/DVD-RW 22X OEM SATA DVD Burner W/ Labelflash Support Black
$24.84

PC Assembly and Testing with 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased)
$50.00

Total: $1,124.97 CAD before taxes.
With 12% HST, $1,259.97 CAD

FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
August 08 2010 03:26 GMT
#623
It will definitely fit
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 08 2010 03:59 GMT
#624
On August 08 2010 09:25 Pure.Calm wrote:
Ok guys, disregarding weither or not i use raid settings, if i assemble my computer with both my new harddrive, can i also use both my harddrives (my old one and my new one (i was thinking of using raid0 because it would mean i could use both hardddrives and make the next step possible.

So im pretty sure i havent made sense so il restart. I can get a windows 7 UPGRADE for £30 which means i can meet my budget. I have xp on my current hardrive, but it is not big enough and i want to install my 1TB one that i have ordered. I was wandering if there was a way that i could build with my old computer and load up with my current xp system that is loaded on, so that i could then get my windows 7 upgrade.

As far as i am aware, when you install windows 7 you are given the option to delete your current memory (which i want) and end up with windows7. At this point i would then install all my drivers.

Would this work?

Thanks


There is a way to use a W7 upgrade key and just do a fresh install using the upgrade DVD on a brand new system, with no prior OS. I just did it today, do a bit of googling and you'll find it .
life
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 04:26:56
August 08 2010 04:22 GMT
#625
Mathewep2010: That Dell XPS9100 has 12 GB of RAM. Unless you run applications that require a lot of RAM (heavy video editing, virtual machine, etc.), that's maybe 8 GB more than you need. More RAM past how much you're using doesn't improve performance any, so it's probably a waste. RAM is easy to upgrade in the future if you ever need to. The cost of the system isn't too much more than the value of those parts included, but if you consider the extra RAM a waste, it's probably some $250 more expensive than it should be, as a rough estimate.

Granted, the machine should be powerful enough not to give the game any problems, but it might be in the overkill range, even not considering the RAM. A computer with an i5-760 and GTX 460 instead would also be powerful enough, at it would cost a couple/few hundred dollars less too. A graphics card like the HD 5850, GTX 470, or something in that range between the HD 5870 and GTX 460 would suffice too. Check that review link that's floating around.

To connect to your TV, you would just run an HDMI cable from the graphics card to the TV. Maybe you could use DVI, VGA, or DisplayPort, depending on what the TV and your card support, but HDMI is the most common solution and makes sense. How are you planning on getting audio?

WARNING: big HDTVs usually lag very bad! Usually the TV will enhance and process the image in various ways, which takes time. You may or may not be able to disable all of those features. The end result is that there will be a noticeable delay between when it gets an image and when it displays that image. In other words, when you move your mouse or anything moves on screen, it might take 100 ms (or more? or less...it depends on the TV) before you see that action on the TV. Everything is behind, which makes games very frustrating to play.
Divine[aX]
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 08 2010 04:47 GMT
#626
What's the difference between MSI and EVGA GPUs and Mobos?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
August 08 2010 05:16 GMT
#627
warranty
personal preference
some features, that's honestly about it
Mathewep2010
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States63 Posts
August 08 2010 06:00 GMT
#628
Myrmidon: Thanks for the information, after reviewing what you've said about larger tv's and checking out the cost difference I'm just gonna settle for an average monitor atm and upgrade later on when I can afford to get something closer to 30" screen. I use a headset when im on the computer so no need for anything there. I didn't know that about RAM so that definately will help me on when im buying, no need to waste a couple hundred dollars on something i cant use anyways, im only getting the rig for sc2, no editing/movies/etc so surely no reason for alot of power in that regard. Thanks again bro!
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 15:23:17
August 08 2010 13:53 GMT
#629
On August 08 2010 12:59 darkponcho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 09:25 Pure.Calm wrote:
Ok guys, disregarding weither or not i use raid settings, if i assemble my computer with both my new harddrive, can i also use both my harddrives (my old one and my new one (i was thinking of using raid0 because it would mean i could use both hardddrives and make the next step possible.

So im pretty sure i havent made sense so il restart. I can get a windows 7 UPGRADE for £30 which means i can meet my budget. I have xp on my current hardrive, but it is not big enough and i want to install my 1TB one that i have ordered. I was wandering if there was a way that i could build with my old computer and load up with my current xp system that is loaded on, so that i could then get my windows 7 upgrade.

As far as i am aware, when you install windows 7 you are given the option to delete your current memory (which i want) and end up with windows7. At this point i would then install all my drivers.

Would this work?

Thanks


There is a way to use a W7 upgrade key and just do a fresh install using the upgrade DVD on a brand new system, with no prior OS. I just did it today, do a bit of googling and you'll find it .



Yeah, the problem is i can only get windows 7 by an email download link. This is because i will be using the student offer they have. Apparantly i have to open the email and click the link to get the download and key, ie i dont get the disk (as far as i am aware)

As such i was wandering if i could use my current harddrive to load up in windows xp, install all the drivers and the 1TB harddrives, Then download windows7 (or download windows 7 then install drivers)

Has anyone had any experience doing anything like this, or have any idea if it will work?

Edit: ive just been told that doing this might work but it would boot up with the wrong drivers, so i shouldnt do it. Does this sound right?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 08 2010 18:41 GMT
#630
You are getting it from the Ultimate Steal site right? It worked fine for me, just download the file from the link they give you and burn the ISO to a disk. Then when you get your new computer, no need to install XP or anything on it, just pop in the disk and boot from the DVD. When given the option, pick the upgrade installation. When asked to put in the Windows Key, just leave it blank for now, and then activate manually later.
Pure.Calm
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom196 Posts
August 08 2010 19:17 GMT
#631
No, its directly from the microsoft website in the student offers section, il try just saving the IOS (this is the installer for the OS right?) onto a disk and pop it in (will this not be a massive file like 12-16GB? and if so how to i save it to a disk?
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 09 2010 04:51 GMT
#632
On August 08 2010 13:47 Divine[aX] wrote:
What's the difference between MSI and EVGA GPUs and Mobos?

It's difficult to answer such a general question. You must look at specific models of motherboards to compare them in terms of functionality, overclocking support, etc...

As for the GPUs, MSI and EVGA don't actually make GPUs, those are designed by ATI/nVidia and produced at fabs such as TSMC. Usually MSI and EVGA take manufactured GPUs and incorporate them into Graphics Cards that usually follow a reference design also from ATI/nVidia. (EVGA only makes nVidia-based Graphics Cards) Since most manufacturers -including EVGA and MSI follow reference designs, there's not going to be much difference between the cards.

6581
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 05:55:25
August 09 2010 05:54 GMT
#633
BFG cards are usually more expensive. D:

edit: That was awhile ago, not sure if they even compete anymore.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
WildGuns
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
August 09 2010 06:20 GMT
#634
Hey guys, about to come into a bit of money Monday and the laptop I've been living with for years needs to be dealt away with and I'm looking to get a nice enough desktop to strictly run SC2 on medium or high, but still be fairly cheap. My ideal budget is around $600, give or take $30. I have my own OS but I will need to purchase a separate monitor. I won't need to upgrade for a long time seeing as how my ancient laptop hasn't been able to run a game that came out past-2000, so a decent gaming build would be amazing. I'll be building it as soon as I order it, which should be Monday, and I don't plan on overclocking or adding a 2nd GPU at this point. I'll be ordering from Newegg, because around here there are no microcenters or a Fry's where I'm at in the Southern United States. Thanks for your time. :3
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
August 09 2010 06:26 GMT
#635
DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
Hard Drive Spinpoint f3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics card 4870 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121376
PSU 550w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
4gb Gskill RAM + Antec 300 case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469343
Athlon ii x4 + mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455955

Should do the trick i think? Total is 580
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 09 2010 06:27 GMT
#636
On August 09 2010 04:17 Pure.Calm wrote:
No, its directly from the microsoft website in the student offers section, il try just saving the IOS (this is the installer for the OS right?) onto a disk and pop it in (will this not be a massive file like 12-16GB? and if so how to i save it to a disk?


I'm assuming that you are referring the ISO file. An ISO file is an image file that can be used to burn onto a DVD/CD media. There are various other uses.

The Windows 7 ISO file is not big at all, I burned the whole thing onto a standard single layer 4.6GB DVD.

From memory, a student Windows 7 from it's not cheating do not give you an option to get ISO by default, you need to google the link.

Once you have the ISO, burn it on to a DVD then boot into Optical drive and install it from there, put the key that Microsoft give you when you are done.
Rillanon.au
WildGuns
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
August 09 2010 06:28 GMT
#637
On August 09 2010 15:26 decafchicken wrote:
DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
Hard Drive Spinpoint f3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics card 4870 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121376
PSU 550w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
4gb Gskill RAM + Antec 300 case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469343
Athlon ii x4 + mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455955

Should do the trick i think? Total is 580

Wow, didn't expect the fast response. That's pretty damn good, thanks, but do you have any ideas when it comes to trimming the price? I'll still need a cheap, nice monitor to throw into that as well.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
August 09 2010 06:53 GMT
#638
On August 09 2010 15:28 WildGuns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:26 decafchicken wrote:
DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
Hard Drive Spinpoint f3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics card 4870 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121376
PSU 550w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
4gb Gskill RAM + Antec 300 case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469343
Athlon ii x4 + mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455955

Should do the trick i think? Total is 580

Wow, didn't expect the fast response. That's pretty damn good, thanks, but do you have any ideas when it comes to trimming the price? I'll still need a cheap, nice monitor to throw into that as well.


What monitor resolution will you be using and how much you spending on it?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
WildGuns
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
August 09 2010 07:05 GMT
#639
On August 09 2010 15:53 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 15:28 WildGuns wrote:
On August 09 2010 15:26 decafchicken wrote:
DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
Hard Drive Spinpoint f3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Graphics card 4870 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121376
PSU 550w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
4gb Gskill RAM + Antec 300 case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.469343
Athlon ii x4 + mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455955

Should do the trick i think? Total is 580

Wow, didn't expect the fast response. That's pretty damn good, thanks, but do you have any ideas when it comes to trimming the price? I'll still need a cheap, nice monitor to throw into that as well.


What monitor resolution will you be using and how much you spending on it?

Probably either 1440x900 or 1600x900 and my budget for the monitor is between $100 and $130.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 07:13:58
August 09 2010 07:11 GMT
#640
DVD drive
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500 GB
ATI HD 5670
Antec 300 case and Earthwatts 380D PSU
4gb DDR3 RAM
Athlon II X3, 3.0 GHz
AM3 mobo with USB3 and Sata 6 Gb/s

That should be under $500 before shipping, without a monitor. I think with such a long upgrade cycle, you might as well get USB3 support. edit: warning - no second GPU possible, but that's too much to expect for this price range
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