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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 14:01:08
May 10 2011 13:59 GMT
#5241
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:59 skyR wrote:
@asdd

Total comes to $701 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M/US3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Sapphire Radeon HD5770 @ $115 ($95 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $70 (not sure how long this deal is going to last, if it ends before you make your purchase than you can just get a 2x4GB kit for $80 or a 2x2GB kit for $40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Antec Earthwatts 380W @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986



I'm getting ready to buy this build that you made for me skyR but I would like to know if you are sure I can stream SC2 without lag with it. And also if there are any changes needed or if it's all good.
I
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
May 10 2011 14:27 GMT
#5242
For those of y'all building new riggs, this power supply seems great, especially in terms of power/ $.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017&Tpk=N82E16817139017
$44.99 - $20 MIR - $8 instant promo code EMCKEJK59 = $16.99

Good reviews too, and not from an unknown brand.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 16:13:25
May 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#5243
On May 10 2011 22:59 asdd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:59 skyR wrote:
@asdd

Total comes to $701 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M/US3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Sapphire Radeon HD5770 @ $115 ($95 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $70 (not sure how long this deal is going to last, if it ends before you make your purchase than you can just get a 2x4GB kit for $80 or a 2x2GB kit for $40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Antec Earthwatts 380W @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986



I'm getting ready to buy this build that you made for me skyR but I would like to know if you are sure I can stream SC2 without lag with it. And also if there are any changes needed or if it's all good.


Yes it's enough to stream unless maybe you're looking at higher quality than a good quality 480p / okay quality 720p stream. If you want to stream higher quality than that, you should look into getting a Core i5-2500k, a P67 motherboard, an aftermarket cooler (about $80 more than the current setup) and overclocking that.

But as always, when people recommend a build and you wait a few days, prices change and there are better options available.

Mushkin 2 x 4GB DDR3 - $72 (other RAM price expired)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Corsair CX430 - $37 before $20 MIR with promo code EMCKEJK59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017


On May 10 2011 23:27 ensign_lee wrote:
For those of y'all building new riggs, this power supply seems great, especially in terms of power/ $.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017&Tpk=N82E16817139017
$44.99 - $20 MIR - $8 instant promo code EMCKEJK59 = $16.99

Good reviews too, and not from an unknown brand.

Corsair CX430 is kind of a very well-known commodity, but thanks for pointing out the promo code. Performance is good aside from barely-not-80plus efficiency, but the component choices are stingy to say the least. Of course, many budget units have similar components inside. Also note that it's only rated for 336W on +12V, which is more in line with good 380W units. They're mostly okay, but Corsair gave it a 2 year warranty (as opposed to 3 on GS series, 3 on updated CX V2, 5 on TX and older HX series, and 7 on AX and newer HX series) for a reason. It's usually a good choice because of the price though.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Power-Supply-Review/1200/1
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=214
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 10 2011 17:07 GMT
#5244
On May 10 2011 18:06 dandan23 wrote:
@skyR

using 100 and 45 at each core
1.35 V cpu voltage


Was your overclock stable for at least four hours in prime95? If your overclock wasn't stable during load than increase the voltage.

I forgot to ask this previously but what constitutes as random crashes in Windows because you might be experiencing a totally different problem that is not related to your overclock. Are you getting BSODs or just random lockups? Random lockups during idle (doing nothing) is a problem that some users (myself) have experienced with the ASUS P8P67 series as seen in these threads:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1577853
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1583213

Solutions are also listed in the threads, some include: disabling C3 / C6, increasing ram voltage / decreasing ram frequency, disabling all power saving options in the BIOS and within Windows, updating the BIOS, ...
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
May 10 2011 19:48 GMT
#5245
On May 11 2011 01:10 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 22:59 asdd wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2011 02:59 skyR wrote:
@asdd

Total comes to $701 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M/US3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Sapphire Radeon HD5770 @ $115 ($95 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $70 (not sure how long this deal is going to last, if it ends before you make your purchase than you can just get a 2x4GB kit for $80 or a 2x2GB kit for $40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Antec Earthwatts 380W @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986



I'm getting ready to buy this build that you made for me skyR but I would like to know if you are sure I can stream SC2 without lag with it. And also if there are any changes needed or if it's all good.


Yes it's enough to stream unless maybe you're looking at higher quality than a good quality 480p / okay quality 720p stream. If you want to stream higher quality than that, you should look into getting a Core i5-2500k, a P67 motherboard, an aftermarket cooler (about $80 more than the current setup) and overclocking that.

But as always, when people recommend a build and you wait a few days, prices change and there are better options available.

Mushkin 2 x 4GB DDR3 - $72 (other RAM price expired)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Corsair CX430 - $37 before $20 MIR with promo code EMCKEJK59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017


Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 23:27 ensign_lee wrote:
For those of y'all building new riggs, this power supply seems great, especially in terms of power/ $.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017&Tpk=N82E16817139017
$44.99 - $20 MIR - $8 instant promo code EMCKEJK59 = $16.99

Good reviews too, and not from an unknown brand.

Corsair CX430 is kind of a very well-known commodity, but thanks for pointing out the promo code. Performance is good aside from barely-not-80plus efficiency, but the component choices are stingy to say the least. Of course, many budget units have similar components inside. Also note that it's only rated for 336W on +12V, which is more in line with good 380W units. They're mostly okay, but Corsair gave it a 2 year warranty (as opposed to 3 on GS series, 3 on updated CX V2, 5 on TX and older HX series, and 7 on AX and newer HX series) for a reason. It's usually a good choice because of the price though.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Power-Supply-Review/1200/1
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=214


Just want to make sure that that RAM and my motherboard are compatable? I believe the motherboard only has 2 slots, not sure how many that 8GB requires. Also, a friend told me that my power supply should be better, is there an issue or is she wrong? Thanks as always :D
I
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 20:08:44
May 10 2011 20:05 GMT
#5246
Your psu is enough to handle the CPU and the GPU. Also, I am pretty sure they gave you a 4GBx2 8GB kit, so you only need two slots.

edit: yup, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416.
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
May 10 2011 20:27 GMT
#5247
Isn't that RAM different from http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095
or is it the same (2 slots). Sorry for the bad questions ><
I
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 10 2011 20:35 GMT
#5248
2x4GB = 2 modules of 4GB so it requires 2 slots.
asdd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
228 Posts
May 10 2011 20:44 GMT
#5249
Okay thanks and is the powersupply okay?
I
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 10 2011 20:50 GMT
#5250
Yes, 400w is more than enough to power your configuration. The Antec Earthwatts has a better build quality than the Corsair CX430 but both are excellent choices for a budget build.
JJGamer
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
May 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#5251
So I've been looking up the reviews of the samsung spinpoint f3 HDD and it seems to me it has the performance but in terms of reliability, it's lacking. People are saying that it dies within months. Is that true? Should I trust the reviews? If so, I might reconsider getting it. Anyone that has it can testify otherwise? Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 11 2011 00:08 GMT
#5252
It's true that computer components aren't perfect and some are bound to have a short life, arrive DOA, or arrive defective. If you want to base reliability on a small fraction of customer reviews on Newegg than you might as well not buy anything off Newegg.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 11 2011 00:15 GMT
#5253
Bear in mind, people are more prone to complaint than praise. If it works, that's just expected, but if it doesn't they actually consider it noteworthy. You can't get anything resembling an accurate statistical sampling by reading reviews from a consumer site. If you think the price/storage is a good deal, get it, if you don't, look for something else.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 01:45:41
May 11 2011 01:43 GMT
#5254
Looking to build a nice PC as a gift to myself returning from my last deployment. I've never built one before so I don't know too much about it.

What is your budget?
$1500

What is your resolution?
1900x1200

What are you using it for?
Gaming mainly

What is your upgrade cycle?
every year or two

When do you plan on building it?
Right away

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, I want to learn how to overclock since I am already learning building the computer too

Do you need an Operating System?
My roommate is going to supply me with Windows 7 64 bit, is there a more preferred OS for gaming?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, it is an option I'd like to keep open

Where are you buying your parts from?
Ordering from Newegg most likely, I'll be home from deployment next week so they should be all waiting for me when I arrive.


Thanks!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 02:28:45
May 11 2011 02:10 GMT
#5255
Take the Windows 7 64-bit. This doesn't use all your budget, but spending more won't really get you anything significantly better.

Core i5-2500k - $225 ($215 today)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

AsRock P67 Extreme4 - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229

Mushkin 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $72
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

EVGA GTX 570 SuperClocked (lifetime warranty on registration) - $360 ($330 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595

Asus CD/DVD burner - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Crucial C300 128GB - $195 (after instant promo code)
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CTFDDAC28G&title=Crucial-2-5-inch-128GB-RealSSD-C300-SATA3-Solid-State-Drive-MLC

Xigmatek Gaia - $30 (edit: whoops, I forgot an aftermarket CPU cooler earlier)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60 (maybe grab a side 120/140mm fan when going SLI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Corsair TX750 V2 - $105 ($90 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
May 11 2011 02:27 GMT
#5256
On May 11 2011 11:10 Myrmidon wrote:
Take the Windows 7 64-bit. This doesn't use all your budget, but spending more won't really get you anything significantly better.

Core i5-2500k - $225 ($215 today)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Thanks for the help! Just a quick curiosity, how come it seems most recommendations lean towards the i5 instead of the i7?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 11 2011 02:29 GMT
#5257
On May 11 2011 11:27 Cham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 11:10 Myrmidon wrote:
Take the Windows 7 64-bit. This doesn't use all your budget, but spending more won't really get you anything significantly better.

Core i5-2500k - $225 ($215 today)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Thanks for the help! Just a quick curiosity, how come it seems most recommendations lean towards the i5 instead of the i7?


Because not many people need the hyperthreading, and i5 OCs plenty good, so the i7 tends to end up being not worth the price for the noticed performance difference.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 02:32:33
May 11 2011 02:31 GMT
#5258
i7 has hyperthreading and no other benefits (well, 2MB more L3 cache for i7-2600 over i5-2x00, but that's marginal). Hyperthreading helps for heavy multi-threaded CPU crunching tasks like video encoding but not really for games. Most games aren't parallelized that well and don't benefit.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6
etc.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
May 11 2011 02:32 GMT
#5259
On May 11 2011 11:29 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 11:27 Cham wrote:
On May 11 2011 11:10 Myrmidon wrote:
Take the Windows 7 64-bit. This doesn't use all your budget, but spending more won't really get you anything significantly better.

Core i5-2500k - $225 ($215 today)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Thanks for the help! Just a quick curiosity, how come it seems most recommendations lean towards the i5 instead of the i7?


Because not many people need the hyperthreading, and i5 OCs plenty good, so the i7 tends to end up being not worth the price for the noticed performance difference.


The quick help never ceases to amaze me, thanks :D
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
May 11 2011 02:37 GMT
#5260
I have a small problem, I don't have any sound on my newly assembled pc !
I have installed/reinstalled the realtech audio drivers for my motherboard.
The sound isn't muted, the speakers are connected correctly and do work so I don't know what's wrong.

If I check the sound menu in the control panel, it lists 4 devices :

Speakers --> not plugged in
Headphones --> not plugged in
Digital audio (S/PDIF) --> Default Device
Digital audio (S/PDIF) --> Default communication device

There are sound bars next to the bottom two and I see some volume changes when I have something open that should generate sound. My build is the top post on page 205 if it is of any interest. I searched quite a bit on google, but I couldn't find an answer besides is it muted ? and reinstall drivers.
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