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Trying to get that memory to run at 1375mhz is probably going to cause your GPU to GSOD until you switch it to a lower memory frequency.
Just be careful with the voltages, that's all. The point of unlocking the shaders is not to get a free HD6970 but to get something like 5 free FPS doing possibly the safest mod right now since AMD gives you a dual BIOS to play with.
@Sixfour
That build will work but personally I'd really, really, really try to save 20 pounds so you can get a i3-2100 and a really cheap H61 motherboard. What you are missing out on is around 15 whole FPS, which needless to say is a lot of performance when these low end CPUs are hovering around 30FPS average.
Your current resolution isn't so much an issue, Starcraft 2 is more CPU dependent than GPU dependent. Lowering the resolution will give your GPU breathing room but won't do anything to help your CPU. What's your budget?
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Thanks for going to the effort of putting this together, appreciated
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hello again, I wanted to thank everyone who helped me a few pages back. Ive been rummaging around trying to get something together and this is what I have so far :
AMD procesor Athlon II X2, 250, Socket AM3, 3.0GHz, Dual Core 75$
Asus Motherboard M4N68T-M LE, Socket AM3, nForce 630a, ATX/mATX/microATX 58$
Corsair RAM 4GB, DDR3, (2x2GB), 1600MHz 68$
VTX3D GPU ATI Radeon HD5570, 2GB, DDR3 90$
So, is there anything wrong or incompatible here ? Im not aiming for a beast of a computer, just something to run sc2 and LoL while skyping at a decent speed, some older games like stalker and oblivion, and maybe some newer games on low. If anything else would suit my needs for less money it would be awesome. Also would I be needing a new PSU for all this, my current one is NEON px-300 300w.
Once again thank you everyone for your help and keeping this thread so awesome.
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@besiger
Buying 1600MHz memory when you are on such a low budget is definitely wrong. There is a very minor difference between 1333MHz and higher frequency memory as seen here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 4GB of memory should not cost anymore than $42 USD.
Why is the Radeon HD5570 so overpriced? A Radeon HD5670 (which is a better card) can be had for around $70.
Your power supply only has 18a on the 12v rails. It's bad and it'll work but I wouldn't trust my components with it.
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I can get 4gb 1333 for about 50$, and I dont think I can do better on the price here. Also its 1x4 instead of 2x2, will that make much of a difference? im not quite sure in what instances is it better to have 2 ram modules like that instead of just 1.
For the card, on the sites of local dealers the HD5670 runs at about 100$ average. The prices here are really jacked up and I could do so much better if Newegg shipped to Croatia.
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thanks skyR and GTR,
appreciate the feedback.
currently i am running a i5-2400k. not as good as the i5-2500k but i think the 560 will work well with this cpu. thanks im going with the 560 for sure!
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Can you give a link to your retailer so that we can see if there are any better options for a graphics card?
1x4 instead of 2x2 difference is very minor in gaming just like with frequency and timings.
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well I can give you the link, but its in Croatian, but if you want to try here it is
http://www.nabava.net/graficke-kartice__150 (this is something like ebay, bidding, so I dont know how relevant the prices will be)
HG spot
the exchange rate is about 1$ = 5.0 HRK
I guess il try to scrap together some more cash and get a corsair 430w PSU.
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You've already seen the performance difference between the 5850 and GTX 560 from my previous links. Now, here's an article showing the difference between the core i5 2300 2400 and 2500: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_7.html#sect0
The K suffix (ex. core i5 2500k) denotes an unlocked multiplier (used for overclocking) and a more powerful integrated graphics (which you'll never use). With the core i5 2500k, you'll be able to overclock to a frequency very close to 5GHz while a core i5 2400 has a restricted multiplier limiting you to only 3.8GHz.
Here's a review showing the benefits of overclocking and the performance difference between various frequencies (core i5 2500k at 3.3GHz, 4.3GHz, 4.7GHz): http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2
A core i5 2500k would be a better long term investment since the processor will become the bottleneck eventually and it's not as easy as replacing the processor (sometimes a new motherbooard and even new memory is required). Even though Intel said that Ivybridge (3rd Generation Core) processors are expected to be on the same socket, I wouldn't entirely trust them. A graphics card upgrade is just a simple swap out.
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So if I get that card. the 1333 ram and a new PSU everything should be alright ? Thanks a lot for all the help.
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Hey, I just received my 250 future shop gift card. With the AMD 7000 rumoured for june, july, I guess the best would be to wait and see if its good and if Futureshop get them in stock?
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the two cores are similar and at their current settings you will not see a difference in performance. the two cards on the other hand...you will see a dramatic difference in playing games other than sc2. even in sc2 a 560 ti will perform better under heavy load, compared to the 5850. pretty much hands down.
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On May 10 2011 03:28 skyR wrote:You've already seen the performance difference between the 5850 and GTX 560 from my previous links. Now, here's an article showing the difference between the core i5 2300 2400 and 2500: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_7.html#sect0The K suffix (ex. core i5 2500k) denotes an unlocked multiplier (used for overclocking) and a more powerful integrated graphics (which you'll never use). With the core i5 2500k, you'll be able to overclock to a frequency very close to 5GHz while a core i5 2400 has a restricted multiplier limiting you to only 3.8GHz. Here's a review showing the benefits of overclocking and the performance difference between various frequencies (core i5 2500k at 3.3GHz, 4.3GHz, 4.7GHz): http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2A core i5 2500k would be a better long term investment since the processor will become the bottleneck eventually and it's not as easy as replacing the processor (sometimes a new motherbooard and even new memory is required). Even though Intel said that Ivybridge (3rd Generation Core) processors are expected to be on the same socket, I wouldn't entirely trust them. A graphics card upgrade is just a simple swap out.
thanks a lot for this. I think I will build a computer based around the i5-2500k and the Sapphire 5850.
just found a combo that is pretty darn cheap that includes the i5-2500k. I can also buy the Sapphire 5850 for $140 on a different site. Total comes to around $650. Still, I would like to spend less.
Before I buy can I get some advice? Any changes I should make? Sorry I am pretty new to this stuff.
Here is the combo build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.644166
If I buy this combo will I be able to upgrade cards later on? Also, does the motherboard allow for dual video cards? I think it is called crossfire for ATI and sli for Nvidia. Later on I hope to add 8gb of ram and add two Nvidia video cards. I think this mobo allows for that. Thanks!
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The motherboard only comes with 1 PCI-E x16 slot so no you cannot do SLI or CrossfireX.
It's a bad combo, you can do a lot better by purchasing components separately.
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On May 10 2011 10:13 skyR wrote:
The motherboard only comes with 1 PCI-E x16 slot so no you cannot do SLI or CrossfireX.
It's a bad combo, you can do a lot better by purchasing components separately.
Thank you very much! could you help me put one together sir?
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