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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 02:39:02
May 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#5261
Are you using front or back panel inputs? Edit: if front, did you connect those to the correct audio hookups on mobo?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 11 2011 02:47 GMT
#5262
@NinjaOb

Go into your BIOS and ensure that the HD Audio Controller is set to enabled.
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 03:09:23
May 11 2011 03:04 GMT
#5263
@JingleHell
They're connected by the back, but I did connect the front panel connector to the mobo

@skyR
I went into the bios but couldn't find it.

EDIT : nevermind, i found it, it was already set to enabled.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
May 11 2011 03:15 GMT
#5264
So I've got everything looked up and in my shopping cart, almost good to go. Am I going to need any cables or heat sink paste or any extras of that sort before I put together this computer?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 03:23:16
May 11 2011 03:23 GMT
#5265
@NinjoOb

The motherboard could possibly be partially doa. Do you have an extra sound card?

@Cham

The motherboard will provide you all the necessary cables and accessories. The heatsink will be provided to you with the processor and will already have thermal paste pre-applied. If you didn't see earlier, Myrmidon edited his post to add an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking purposes: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 Thermal paste will be included with this aftermarket heatsink.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 11 2011 03:30 GMT
#5266
A while back I also edited to change the HAF 922 to a HAF 912. HAF 922 doesn't mount 2.5" drives natively (the SSD) I think, though you can always get a separate 3.5" drive bay to 2.5" adapter. Or just run the SSD loose or taped to the bottom of the case. HAF 912 is good enough unless maybe you're running SLI and want to keep load temperatures a little lower. But you can always add fans to the HAF 912, so it's no big deal. The HAF 912 holds a couple 2.5" drives natively.

SSD is optional btw, but is a good idea on that budget to hold the OS, applications, and games, for overall faster loading and better system responsiveness.
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
May 11 2011 03:39 GMT
#5267
@skyr

Uh I don't have a sound card at all, I think. I'm using whatever is integrated in the motherboard. Something odd though that I forgot to mention, at first whenever I would change in which socket i plugged in the speakers, I would get a popup saying that I just plugged in something in the rear/side/front speaker socket. After I tried plugging them in the front panel, I got some weird error (probably because I had hooked up the wrong connector to the mobo) and after that I don't get any messages when I change the socket I plug the speakers in. Also, before I had the green bars indicating volume for the speakers, now they're next to the Digital audio (S/PDIF) --> Default Device.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 11 2011 03:51 GMT
#5268
Unplug the front panel audio connector and see if it works then. Maybe there's some kind of weird grounding issue with the case and front panel, or bad ports or connectors getting shorted.

If you can never resolve the issue and don't want to try RMAing the motherboard--if that's actually the problem--you can get a cheap sound card. Asus Xonar DG (internal PCI) or Behringer UCA202 (external USB, uses generic non-buggy Windows drivers) are in the $30 range and offer better sound quality anyway.
dandan23
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia101 Posts
May 11 2011 03:52 GMT
#5269
Was your overclock stable for at least four hours in prime95? If your overclock wasn't stable during load than increase the voltage.

I forgot to ask this previously but what constitutes as random crashes in Windows because you might be experiencing a totally different problem that is not related to your overclock. Are you getting BSODs or just random lockups? Random lockups during idle (doing nothing) is a problem that some users (myself) have experienced with the ASUS P8P67 series as seen in these threads:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1577853
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1583213


YES SKY R !! i got the random lock ups it just randomly freezes keyboard and mouse isn working at all.. been trying to fix that 3 days ago t.t

Solutions are also listed in the threads, some include: disabling C3 / C6, increasing ram voltage / decreasing ram frequency, disabling all power saving options in the BIOS and within Windows, updating the BIOS, ...[/spoiler]
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 11 2011 03:53 GMT
#5270
Speakers should be plugged into the green port and your speakers should also be set as your default device.

What is listed under your device manager > sound & video?
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-11 04:51:23
May 11 2011 04:50 GMT
#5271
On May 11 2011 11:37 NinjoOb wrote:
I have a small problem, I don't have any sound on my newly assembled pc !
I have installed/reinstalled the realtech audio drivers for my motherboard.
The sound isn't muted, the speakers are connected correctly and do work so I don't know what's wrong.

If I check the sound menu in the control panel, it lists 4 devices :

Speakers --> not plugged in
Headphones --> not plugged in
Digital audio (S/PDIF) --> Default Device
Digital audio (S/PDIF) --> Default communication device

There are sound bars next to the bottom two and I see some volume changes when I have something open that should generate sound. My build is the top post on page 205 if it is of any interest. I searched quite a bit on google, but I couldn't find an answer besides is it muted ? and reinstall drivers.


Set your default device to Speakers, Digital out is only reserved for external soundcards (DACs)or Audio Recievers with a built in DAC.
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
_syphon_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
May 11 2011 07:25 GMT
#5272
My computer is getting worse and worse and it's well past time for a new one, but i dont know what parts to get that will work with starcraft 2. Lately during large battles my fps has been dropping to 1 fps. Thanks in advance for all the help.

What is your budget?

I have a budget of around $1000, with some wiggle room.

What is your resolution?

1680x1050 that’s what it says in my Starcraft 2 options menu under resolution. Hope that’s the right number.

What are you using it for?

School and gaming, the only game i really play is Starcraft 2.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I upgrade about every 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

Within a month maybe two.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I don’t know if I would like to overclock, if it is worth it then yes=/ idk

Do you need an Operating System?

No I have a copy windows 64bit, if there is a better OS out there for Starcraft 2, then I will need an operating system.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

If I can fit it in budget, then yes. I don’t know how much all that would cost.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in the states so I will use newegg.
dandan23
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia101 Posts
May 11 2011 07:30 GMT
#5273
@SkyR
Yup tried everything u listed and read the forums links u gave me... it still freezes (keyboard mouse not responding have to press the reset button)

any more advice/help ?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 11 2011 07:42 GMT
#5274
@_syphon_

Ask again in a month or two when you are purchasing. AMD is set to release their next generation procoessors in June and prices / deals change each week so it's pointless to give you a configuration now. SLI / CrossfireX is also a waste of money if all you plan on doing is playing SC2, a single $150 graphics card can easily play the game smoothly on ultra at 1920x1200. Windows 64bit doesn't tell us much, there's Windows XP, Vista, and 7. You'll want Windows 7.

@dandan23

I actually don't know what causes stupid ASUS P67 series of boards to stupidly lock up. My old B2 revision board had the same lockup issue and disabling C3 / C6 fixed it but i re-enabled it a few weeks later and the problem seem to have disappeared. I was actually hesitant to RMA my B2 revision for a B3 revision in fear of having the same problem but funny enough, B3 seems to be rock solid.

If you've already tried every suggestion in the threads and are still experiencing the lockups. I'd just return the board and get a Gigabyte or MSI one since there's really not much you can do about the lockups.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 11 2011 12:31 GMT
#5275
People who want to overclock and have a SSD for fast boot speeds might want to look into Intel's Z68 boards since they offer SSD caching. Its not as good as a SSD but it does mean all of your hard drives benefit from the SSD cache, which is particularly great if you have a huge Steam folder.

I'm not sure about the economics but considering all you need to buy is a 20GB Intel SSD I'm going to guess it'll end up being cheaper.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
May 11 2011 14:42 GMT
#5276
On May 11 2011 21:31 Womwomwom wrote:
People who want to overclock and have a SSD for fast boot speeds might want to look into Intel's Z68 boards since they offer SSD caching. Its not as good as a SSD but it does mean all of your hard drives benefit from the SSD cache, which is particularly great if you have a huge Steam folder.

I'm not sure about the economics but considering all you need to buy is a 20GB Intel SSD I'm going to guess it'll end up being cheaper.


If you already have a sizable SSD (120GB +), then SSD caching will actually probably diminish your performance and you should disable it. One thing to note.
NinjoOb
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada128 Posts
May 11 2011 15:27 GMT
#5277
@skyr / myrmidon

I plugged the speakers in the green socket and it works now, but it's odd because I had already tried plugging them in all the sockets. I guess a good night's sleep did the trick, thank you for your help !
Buubble
Profile Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
May 11 2011 15:39 GMT
#5278
Hi guys, I'm planning on building a computer and I have several specific questions..

1) For liquid cooling, how much would it cost? I was considering the option becuase silent computer would be really nice.

2) I was going to buy 2 6xxx grphic cards for crossfiring, is there any place I can buy them together specifically for crossfiring, and thus cheaper?

Thanks!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 11 2011 16:01 GMT
#5279
A whole liquid cooling system, CPU + graphics cards, can be pretty expensive with all the parts: radiator, tubing, water blocks, etc., like a few hundred dollars. I'm sure it depends heavily on what you get. Self-contained CPU liquid coolers like the Corsair H50/60/70 and similar options are under $100. Keep in mind that the pump makes noise too, as do fans for the radiator. Air cooling is pretty good enough and can be quieter as well. Liquid cooling is mostly just for novelty/tweaking and extreme overclocking for trying to beat benchmarks.

If you're looking for a very quiet computer, avoid Crossfire. If you have lots of money and need Crossfire because a single HD 6970 or whatever is not powerful enough, you can still get a quiet system using a Silverstone FT02 or RV02. See here:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1002-page7.html

Sometimes some places offer special deals on two cards together for Crossfire or SLI, but people usually just buy two of the same item AFAIK.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 11 2011 16:17 GMT
#5280
On May 11 2011 21:31 Womwomwom wrote:
People who want to overclock and have a SSD for fast boot speeds might want to look into Intel's Z68 boards since they offer SSD caching. Its not as good as a SSD but it does mean all of your hard drives benefit from the SSD cache, which is particularly great if you have a huge Steam folder.

I'm not sure about the economics but considering all you need to buy is a 20GB Intel SSD I'm going to guess it'll end up being cheaper.


The 20GB SSD is 34nm SLC and it's going to be around $110 =\
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