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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Cornstyle
United States147 Posts
Thanks a lot! No preference towards AMD just blind ignorance  I'll rock the i-5 then and thanks for the clarification on overclocking. Any particular mobo I should aim for then? I noticed in the review article you linked that it needs to be a LGA-1155 but unsure of anything else I should be really concerned about. Having the capability to SLI is important for me in the future but otherwise I'm not too picky. You guys are awesome for taking the time to help noobs like myself with these things! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You can use this link to help you decide which motherboard best suit your needs: http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/916189-official-intel-p67-sandy-bridge-motherboard.html If you are looking for a SLI capable motherboard, that would be anything higher than a ASUS P8P67 Pro, Gigabyte P67 UD4, or an MSI P67 G55. All of which can be found for around ~$190. | ||
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Cornstyle
United States147 Posts
Thank you as well that cleared things up excellently in regards for what to get if I want to overclock and price values. Going to take all this in and figure it out. You guys are great! | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
~1000€ / ~1400$ What is your resolution? I wanted to buy some new fresh monitor, too. What are you using it for? mostly gaming, but i may want to execute self written simulations too What is your upgrade cycle? I generally use my PCs as long as they support games with lowest res. (SC 2 knocked out my really old hardware) When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? wanted to use some *buntu Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? Germany/ searching from www.geizhals.at/de I wanted to use this suggestion with the 1000€ model Intel Core i5-2400 Boxed ASUS P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 4GB Kingston 1333MHz CL9 GTX 580 Antec TruePower New 650W (KM) Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB LG GH24 Cooler Master CM 690 (II) I generally don't upgrade my PC, but lower the graphic res and use it to the very end. I would also be thankful for a comment on the LG W2442PA monitor which I wanted to buy in addition to the machine. edit: I want to spend a good amount of money on my PC so it will lead me through the next years without any troubles. I don't want to spend unreasonable much money on it. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Here's a review of the monitor that you have in question: http://wecravegames.com/forums/gadgetry-electronics-discussion/6732-lg-w2442pa-review.html If you aren't going to be overclocking or SLIing, you can save yourself some money and get an H67 board instead of a P67. | ||
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You should do a stress test with stock speeds to ensure that you mounted the heatsink correctly and that temperatures are to your liking. Also to ensure that nothing is faulty and should be functioning correctly at full load at stock speeds. Once you overclock it, you need to stress test it again to make sure temperatures are reasonable and that it is stable. Memtest should be ran for at least 4 passes, it's usually best just to do this overnight. Other tests such as furmark, linx, prime95, etc should be ran for two to eight hours. | ||
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
thanks for the response. So the order you should go is: stress test stock speeds, overclock (do you have to stress test every small increment that you go up in terms of overclocking?), and then stress test again? Do you do all of the CPU stress testing before the others like furmark, linx, prime 95? Thanks !!! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
With a 2500k, you should set a multiplier to a value between 40 - 50 and leave vcore to auto. When you stress test this, it should be stable so just make sure your temperatures are fine and vcore is not at some ridiculous value. After 30 mins or so, you can either increase the multiplier further or start decreasing your vcore. For GPU, you should find out what other people have theirs at and work your way down from there. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On March 21 2011 05:22 Centric wrote: I'm thinking about building a computer to play games but also run Pro Tools for audio editing/recording. If it's between i5 and i7, is the increase in CPU power with i7 worth it? Probably not, I've never really done much with DAWs but I imagine they're like video workstations where the main thing holding you back is your storage input/output speeds. People still do basic video/audio editing with old Core 2 Duo laptops fine since only certain tasks really stress out the processor. | ||
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
The build as it stands: Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK 120mm Fan MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case Motherboard: BIOSTAR N68S3+ AM3 NVIDIA MCP68S Micro ATX AMD Motherboard CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Graphics Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 4830 512MB RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Monitor: ASUS VH196T-P Black 19" DVD Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner The graphics card has me the most uncertain. For example, would this, this, or this be a better choice then my current selection? Also, would the 64 mb cache on this Seagate drive be worth it? The added storage space isn't really a concern, and a 320GB drive would be more than enough as well. I'd prefer to stay above 160GB unless there's a great price or some other compelling reason. Am also considering this Samsung. | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
Are these specs good for a decent gaming computer? I want it to last a good 3 years and was wondering if its a good choice here are the specs: CPU: Intel Core i7 870 2.93GHz Socket 1156 8MB Cache ----Intel Hyper-Threading technology which can thread Quad core(x4) to 8 processing thread Motherboard: Asus/Gigabyte Intel P55 Express Chipset ----4 x Ram Slots Supports up to 16Gb DDR3 Memory ----6 xSATA 3.0 Gb/s ports Graphic: Nvidia Gefore GTS 450 1Gb GDDR5 HD: Seagate/Western Digital 1TB SATA2 3Gb/s RAM: 8GB Dual channel DDR3-1333 Sound: 8-channel High Definition Optical Drive: Liteon 24x SATA Dual Layer DVD Writer -Fast Speed Available USB: 8 at back, 2 on top Network: Gigabit Ethernet, Broadband ready Case: Gigabyte Luxo Gaming Case with 2x 120mm Large Chassis fans, 500W 2 Ball Bearing Fans PSU, Dual 12V Monitor: Viewsonic 24"(23.6" Viewable) New FullHD LCD model with Built in Speakers, 2ms OS: Windows 7 Home premium 64bit with disc and license | ||
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
On March 21 2011 11:46 Melancholia wrote: For what price? That'll run most things just fine, but without knowing the price no one can say if it's a good choice. I believe it was for $1800 NZD which is $1320 USD. Would that run SC2 on ultra without any problems? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 21 2011 11:07 Melancholia wrote: I'm building two computers for my dad's business, and as part of it requires 3-d modeling I'd like to get something that can handle both the fairly basic stuff he does now as well as anything potentially more taxing later. I'd like at least some degree of future proofing, but am building fairly low end overall and am trending towards cost savings over minor performance increases. The graphics card is where I'm most uncertain. + Show Spoiler [build] + The build as it stands: Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK 120mm Fan MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case Motherboard: BIOSTAR N68S3+ AM3 NVIDIA MCP68S Micro ATX AMD Motherboard CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Graphics Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 4830 512MB RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Monitor: ASUS VH196T-P Black 19" DVD Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner The graphics card has me the most uncertain. For example, would this, this, or this be a better choice then my current selection? Also, would the 64 mb cache on this Seagate drive be worth it? The added storage space isn't really a concern, and a 320GB drive would be more than enough as well. I'd prefer to stay above 160GB unless there's a great price or some other compelling reason. Am also considering this Samsung. The other graphics cards are less powerful than the HD 4830. However, for 3D modeling, you should be looking at workstation cards probably. Drivers support for those kinds of applications is much much better for those. In terms of performance, the lower-end workstation cards do better than higher-end consumer cards (even though both consumer and pro lines are based off of the same chips). You can find some performance comparisons out there. This FirePro V3800 ($100) is the same chip as a HD 5570/5670, but closer to HD 5570 clocks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195095 Your hard drive choice was fine. Go with the Earthwatts Green 380D ($40 - $4 instant promo), since the build isn't going to be using half that much power. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 21 2011 11:52 Nuri wrote: I believe it was for $1800 NZD which is $1320 USD. Would that run SC2 on ultra without any problems? You can get significantly better performance for around 1100 AUD, including the monitor and OS. Are New Zealand parts prices about the same? | ||
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Nuri
New Zealand280 Posts
On March 21 2011 11:59 Myrmidon wrote: You can get significantly better performance for around 1100 AUD, including the monitor and OS. Are New Zealand parts prices about the same? thats pretty good. I think they are about the same price. | ||
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