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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
MontereyJack
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany12 Posts
March 21 2011 23:04 GMT
#3721
hey hey,
it's time to get a new pc, and the last time i looked into that was in '05. Fortunately for me and apparently many others this thread exists and continues to be an amazing diplay of comradery and know-how.

What is your budget?
800-1000€

What is your resolution?
I intend to purchase a ~19" monitor later on

What are you using it for?
gaming and streaming, it's also crucial that the pc is quiet!

What is your upgrade cycle?
At least 3 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
not sure yet

Do you need an Operating System?
I want W7 professional to be able to change the OS language

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no

Where are you buying your parts from?
various german online shops

This is the build i envisioned...

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K ~180€
MoBo: ASUS P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 ~115€
RAM: 4GB Kingston 1333MHz CL9 ~35€
GPU: GTX 460 1024MB ~150€
PSU: Antec TruePower New 550W (KM) ~80€
Case: Antec Three Hundred ~50€
HSF: Noctua NH-D14 ~70€
SSD: Corsair Force 60GB ~100€
OS: W7 Professional 64Bit ~110€

If you could give me some advice or any thoughts, that would be very much appreciated<3
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#3722
@MontereyJack

For a low budget board, you may want to look at the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3 as both of these are slightly better budget boards than the ASUS P8P67 LE

You'll probably want a Caviar Green for storing documents, media, etc as 60gb on the SSD isn't a lot to work with.

You may want to look into a Radeon HD6850 as these perform very similar to a GTX 460 and generally can be found for less. The 6850s can also be flashed into 6870s.

The rest looks good, don't forget a DVD Drive.
MontereyJack
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany12 Posts
March 22 2011 00:20 GMT
#3723
That was just the kind of insight I was looking for. I will follow all of your advice, since it seems to be spot on for my needs. Man, this thread is incredible! Thanks a lot, skyR!
PietjeP89
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 00:23:12
March 22 2011 00:22 GMT
#3724
Core i7 2600k @ $329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

MSI P67 GD65 @ $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574

Windows 7 Home Premium @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754


Samsung Spingpoint F3 1 TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=samsung_spinpoint_f3-_-22-152-185-_-Product

2x MSI GTX 580 Twin Frozr @ $500 per ($1000 total)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127567

Corsair Obsisian Series 800D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001&Tpk=Corsair Obsidian 800D

OCZ Vertex 3 240GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227591&Tpk=OCZ Vertex 3 240GB

CORSAIR Professional Series AX850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

OR

CORSAIR Professional Series AX1200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014&cm_re=corsair-_-17-139-014-_-Product

Might be overkill , but this whole system is overkill so

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 12GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145271&cm_re=corsair_dominator-_-20-145-271-_-Product

Something like that.. Setting me back around 2500 euro (3.76027 dollars)
Didn't put the extra cpu cooler (scythe mugen) on the list because I couldn't find it on newegg :o)
Also didn't include a blue ray and dvd reader..

Still feels like I'm missing something though :o

And thanks for the advice skyR earlier in the thread ^^
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
March 22 2011 00:28 GMT
#3725
Planning to build a computer for my sister. I already have a case,gpu, and monitor. i do not need a cd/dvd drive or a cpu cooler

What is your budget?
$150-$350

What is your resolution?
17 inch monitor

What are you using it for?

web surfing, school work, music/movies, etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-4 years

When do you plan on building it?

When i get the parts

Do you plan on overclocking?

no

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

no

Where are you buying your parts from?

ncix/newegg/infonec/ stores in toronto

Thanks.
i be that pretty motherfucker
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2011 00:51 GMT
#3726
@UrASofty

2x2GB 1333MHz Mushkin @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55546&promoid=1280

AMD Atghlon II X4 640 & MSI 870-G45 Bundle @ $155 ($140 AMIR)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59549&promoid=1280

Corsair CX430 @ $43 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230181/CORSAIR/CMPSU_430CX/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54842

Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB @ $44 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232142/Western_Digital/WD5002AALX/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57432&vpn=WD5002AALX

Total comes to $282 before taxes, shipping, and mail in rebates.

The power supply goes on sale sometimes for $20 AMIR. Your sister probably doesn't need a quad either so you could save ~$30 if you wanted to step down to an Athlon II X2.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 22 2011 00:55 GMT
#3727
@PietjeP:

I think that's a Vertex 2. There's no Vertex 3 (big difference) available yet. Also, you want either 2 or 4 sticks of RAM for a dual channel setup. What you might be missing is secondary hard drives? I don't see anything else missing that you did not mention. By the way, stock cooling on the 800D is not that good. Normally many people worry too much about cooling, but with SLI GTX 580, you should probably give it some more thought.

You see temperatures are significantly worse compared to even a HAF 922 (~$100):
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_obsidian_800d/6

That means that in practice, the CPU/GPU fans have to work harder too, which can make the whole thing noisier as well.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 01:17:54
March 22 2011 01:17 GMT
#3728
On March 22 2011 03:46 Divine-Sneaker wrote:

Eh, I've been running DA:2 on maxxed out settings on everything with fraps never going below 50 FPS on my 1 month old computer, which obviously does not have a HD6990. That includes 8xAA and whatever settings could be put higher on 1920*1080 resolution, so I wouldn't exactly call that a truth when mine runs on the HD 6970.

That said I have to agree that the CPU has been the component that's been the most taxed in my computer so far when playing games like Shogun:2, BFBC2, DA:2, SC2 etc. on absolute max settings.


I dunno, initial benchmarks of the game seem to suggest a fairly rushed release with technical issues since basically everyone but the 6990 was struggling that those settings. It seemed to be a major problem especially for nVidia cards who were majorly underperforming.

Perhaps patches and driver optimizations have improved performance? Probably, recent 11.2 driver updates claim to add like 15% more performance to many current games though I have no clue if that's actually true since I don't have a 6000 series card.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 22 2011 02:28 GMT
#3729
^they did say they made it in a year, hardly seems like enough time given the scale/depth of that game.
Parts arriving soon....excited!
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
March 22 2011 03:27 GMT
#3730
Hey guys! Could somebody help me out here? Id like to buy a computer on this website http://firstplace.com.br/loja/orcamento tell me what you think will fit my objective. Thanks.

What is your budget?

My objective is to stream SC2 at 720p. So the budget is basically enough to comfortably reach this objective.

What is your resolution?

I'll be playing on a 19 inch monitor I think, so that would be 1440x900?

What are you using it for?

I want to stream SC2 at 720p, medium quality.

What is your upgrade cycle?


minimum 2 or 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

This week

Do you plan on overclocking?


I have no idea how to do that, so probably not.

Do you need an Operating System?


Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I dont know what that means so no.

Where are you buying your parts from?

http://firstplace.com.br/loja/orcamento

thats the website I want to buy it from.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
March 22 2011 03:29 GMT
#3731
On March 22 2011 09:00 skyR wrote:
@MontereyJack

For a low budget board, you may want to look at the Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3 as both of these are slightly better budget boards than the ASUS P8P67 LE

You'll probably want a Caviar Green for storing documents, media, etc as 60gb on the SSD isn't a lot to work with.

You may want to look into a Radeon HD6850 as these perform very similar to a GTX 460 and generally can be found for less. The 6850s can also be flashed into 6870s.

The rest looks good, don't forget a DVD Drive.


What do you think of the MSI P67A-C43. I'm not sure which board to get.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2011 05:31 GMT
#3732
@FortuneSyn

You're looking for something like this:

Core i5 2400
4GB 1333MHz
Radeon 6850
500W power supply

@quarky

The UD3 and Pro3 are better options than the C43.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 06:28:02
March 22 2011 05:41 GMT
#3733
never mind - delete.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
March 22 2011 14:40 GMT
#3734
On March 22 2011 12:27 FortuneSyn wrote:
Hey guys! Could somebody help me out here? Id like to buy a computer on this website http://firstplace.com.br/loja/orcamento tell me what you think will fit my objective. Thanks.

What is your budget?

My objective is to stream SC2 at 720p. So the budget is basically enough to comfortably reach this objective.

What is your resolution?

I'll be playing on a 19 inch monitor I think, so that would be 1440x900?

What are you using it for?

I want to stream SC2 at 720p, medium quality.

What is your upgrade cycle?


minimum 2 or 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

This week

Do you plan on overclocking?


I have no idea how to do that, so probably not.

Do you need an Operating System?


Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I dont know what that means so no.

Where are you buying your parts from?

http://firstplace.com.br/loja/orcamento

thats the website I want to buy it from.


Thanks for the response skyR.

What motherboard do I need? This is the options the website offers.

Also, do I need SSD? Not really sure what that means :/

[image loading]
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
March 22 2011 14:50 GMT
#3735
You don't *need* a SSD. It's just very high on a list of "nice to have" features. Increases load speed of everything, especially windows.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 22 2011 16:08 GMT
#3736
Is there anywhere else you can buy? They don't seem to carry the latest-generation CPUs, which cost the same as the old generation.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=191

Note that the i5-2500 is the same as the i5-2500k for CPU results if you're not overclocking. i5-2400 is marginally worse (200 MHz down).
miL.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada93 Posts
March 22 2011 20:50 GMT
#3737
Hey guys so I went to my local retailer and put through my order today, and the guy that works there said I should have roughly 2 inches all around my case so that it gives the case extra breathing room... I'm just looking for confirmation on this because the case is almost 9 inches wide, so by his logic I would need 13 inches width where I want to put my tower (height isn't really a problem)... seems a little big and excessive to me.

Thanks
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 22 2011 21:01 GMT
#3738
On March 23 2011 05:50 miL. wrote:
Hey guys so I went to my local retailer and put through my order today, and the guy that works there said I should have roughly 2 inches all around my case so that it gives the case extra breathing room... I'm just looking for confirmation on this because the case is almost 9 inches wide, so by his logic I would need 13 inches width where I want to put my tower (height isn't really a problem)... seems a little big and excessive to me.

Thanks


It isn't a terrible idea if it can be managed. It's not super mandatory unless heat is an issue.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2011 21:03 GMT
#3739
You don't need to leave the motherboard side any breathing room. An inch or two on the other side would help but it isn't necessary.
sykur
Profile Joined June 2010
Iceland21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:14:10
March 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#3740
What is your budget?

This part is not going to be very helpful because I live in Iceland and the tax on computer parts is almost 50% of the price and current swings one day I could be paying 100$ the other 150$ so It is very different from the USA. but FYI I am going for 100.000 Icelandic kronas which is about 850$

What is your resolution?

Not sure about that one. I want a 19" or 20" screen

What are you using it for?

I want it primely for Starcraft 2 and streaming.

What is your upgrade cycle?

My last computer lasted for 7 years. So maybe 3 or 4 years for this one.

When do you plan on building it?

This week.

Do you plan on overclocking?

no

Do you need an Operating System?

I already have a disk with windows 7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Various stores in Iceland


I have put a list together with some parts

EZ-cool N2-800D ATX case with power supply 450W
Intel® Core™ i5-760 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)
ASRock H55M-GE R2.0 µATX Intel LGA1156
DDR3 Minni 1333 MHz - CSX ORIGINAL (PC3-10600) 4GB
GeForce GTX 460 1GB
1TB, Samsung
Sony OptiArc AD-5260S DVD+/- 24X S-ATA

So where do you think I could improve the computer? (I am looking for other parts that are more convenient for gaming and streaming but in the same price range)
ha?
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