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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
There are thousands of guides for applying thermal paste, and most of them are TERRIBLE, trust the extreme overclockers and delidders who fight for 2-4c, not the ones who spread 5x too much paste running stock settings and say "it'll be fine" in this regard. Guess why I'm asking you guys. <3 @skyr: The Win7 version I ordered says "OEM Pro Multilanguage" ... should I just pick any of those and pray they'll work with my activation key? Any difference between the two downloads for each language? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On August 10 2013 17:58 skyR wrote: Are you sure you bought Windows 7 lol? Because I'm pretty sure Professional doesn't support multiple languages. The store you bought from sure seems shady... first the RAM, now this? It's a different store lol. The RAM arrived and turned out to be fine, that was pretty much just them having one info in the name/model number and a different info in the technical details. The Win 7 is this one: http://www.pcfritz.de/software/betriebssystem/windows-7-professional/10264/windows-7-professional-64-bit (German obv) I googled long and hard on that store and I couldn't find anything negative about it, from what I understand it's allowed in Germany to sell versions for refurbished PCs, in this case "OEM version by Dell". The only drawback is that I won't have access to the Microsoft hotline. This thread on reddit explains what I'm expecting to get: http://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/17vqmf/windows_7_intended_for_refurbished_pc_legit_or/ | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/02/all-about-tim/tim2.jpg) The amount of paste you want looks much closer to this, than the blobs you have probably seen. You want it top to bottom line though, not left to right | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
...did you say blobs? Funnily this was the 2nd highest result when I searched for "thermal paste ricegrain" =D Thanks for the help <3 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Np Wow your blobs vid, "a little bit of this paste goes a long way" *drops half of the tube on cpu* so cringeworthy >.> | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On August 10 2013 13:22 Cyro wrote: Good luck! And hang around if you want haswell OC help, me, Alryk, Gumbi and Mav451 have haswell, though gumbi and mav got more recently There's not a lot of good info out there for the CPU's, or why they behave why they do, and lots of people saying stuff based on misunderstanding, so it can be very confusing, it was a big mess a few months ago but nowadays you should be able to dial in 4.4-4.7ghz depending on your luck with the silicon lottery with such a build np. Primed 4.4 overnight, so I'm trying 4.5 right now. Did a few quick tests already (CB11.5, Valley, P95 1792K) and it seems like a good starting point. I'm not touching Uncore/RAM until a later date - procrastination ftw. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
On August 10 2013 18:40 Cyro wrote: That's the video i took my first picture from (well, the mx-2 vid i think) Np Wow your blobs vid, "a little bit of this paste goes a long way" *drops half of the tube on cpu* so cringeworthy >.> More compound more transfer, obviously. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Moar insulator | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
![[image loading]](http://cdn.overclock.net/7/7b/7bd985c2_20130809_171914.jpeg) ![[image loading]](http://cdn.overclock.net/a/aa/aa2b5bc8_DSC04241.jpeg) Two cracked dies in a day and a half on delidded CPU's (with IHS on) ouch. This is starting to get interesting. Both people had the IHS on (neither direct die) one with CLU, one with CLP and the die cracked, one while in operation, one while powered off, both with water blocks on top of the IHS. Both "successful" vice method delids prior to.. die snapping in half  | ||
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TempusDESU
Australia87 Posts
What is your budget 900 AUD What is your resolution 1920x1080 What are you using it for Just gaming and everyday use. What is your upgrade cycle 2-3 years When do you plan on building it As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking No, I do not. Do you need an Operating System No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire No. Where are you buying your parts from www.pccasegear.com.au Thank you very much | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On August 11 2013 13:34 TempusDESU wrote: Hello! What is your budget 900 AUD What is your resolution 1920x1080 What are you using it for Just gaming and everyday use. What is your upgrade cycle 2-3 years When do you plan on building it As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking No, I do not. Do you need an Operating System No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire No. Where are you buying your parts from www.pccasegear.com.au Thank you very much Which games? many? And on other topic: Now that i got some stupid stability issues out of the way (bios settings not sticking, big issues with nvidia drivers and pci-e 3.0, etc) i can do this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9xjjnKP.png) | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Any sources you recommend for starting out with OCing besides Sins guide? How much does OCing affect the lifespan of a CPU? Or can you do almost whatever as long as you keep the temperature low enough? e: Oh, and is there any fun benchmark for the overall performance of a system that I can run? Kind of want to see how it runs on my old and new PC. =P | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
OC Haswell is difficult, not many people have any clue what they are doing and everyone is doing different things. There's also some weird stuff that you just have to know, such as nvidia drivers just flat out becoming unfixably unstable sometimes when not at stock CPU settings unless you use pcie-2.0 instead of 3.0 because of an issue with them that is in the process of getting fixed. I can talk you through some stuff, and the logic behind it It won't affect lifespan much, especially if you can't use high voltage. Because Haswell is so heat limited it's hard to degrade it unless you use high end cooling and also delid, and then push overclock hard AND CPU intensive stuff, like folding, to pin the CPU at 100% for extended periods of time. Seems like Haswell is more tolerant of voltage than sandy bridge but less than ivy, but it's a lot harder to get volts up due to heat. For fun benchmarks, I use Cinebench 11.5 for CPU (with above normal or realtime priority - and in the top left menu's, you can click some things to show single core test too which is useful) and Unigine Heaven 4.0 for GPU (there's a bug with unigine valley that messes up gpu drivers til you crash the driver or restart system, cutting gpu performance in half, so i use Heaven instead, not that valley is better or anything) | ||
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TempusDESU
Australia87 Posts
Mostly LoL, but also new releases and such. Basically, I want the best gaming rig for 900 dollars. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 11 2013 14:17 r.Evo wrote: e: Oh, and is there any fun benchmark for the overall performance of a system that I can run? Kind of want to see how it runs on my old and new PC. =P If you want to run something to get some kind of somewhat-meaningless numbers that need to be taken in correct context, I'd download 3DMark. You get to watch it render some stuff on the screen. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On August 11 2013 14:36 TempusDESU wrote: Mostly LoL, but also new releases and such. Basically, I want the best gaming rig for 900 dollars. Best is subjective, for Metro 2033 for example you'd get a stronger graphics card and very weak cheap CPU because it doesn't really matter, while for Starcraft 2, you'd get the best CPU with very little caring towards GPU, even for extreme settings. For a strong all around system for many games, you'd probably want a 2'nd/3'rd/4'th gen i5 and a midrange graphics card (same as myrm said), but Australian prices are terrible | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
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iPho
United States6 Posts
What is your budget? 500 USD What is your resolution? 1680 x 1050 or 1440 x 900 What are you using it for? Mainly Gaming(LoL+SC2) and school What is your upgrade cycle? 5 years When do you plan on building it? Within the next 2 weeks Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Fry's/Newegg | ||
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Stoids
United States636 Posts
~$1400 What is your resolution? 2 monitors. Both 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Gaming, watching movies, streams. I play most new games that are coming out and would like to be able to run them with ease. I'd also like the GPU/CPU to run relatively cool. Definitely want a full size case. What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years When do you plan on building it? Within a month. Do you plan on overclocking? Yes, CPU. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Single card preferred. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg/Amazon | ||
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