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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 08 2013 18:11 GMT
#32221
On August 09 2013 01:35 wcLLg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hey

What is your budget

600-700

What is your resolution

1920x1080

What are you using it for

Mostly gaming (Sc2 and Dota 2). Some audio editing/recording. Other msc programming applications/compilers

What is your upgrade cycle

2-3 years

When do you plan on building it

Beginning of Sept.

Do you plan on overclocking

Don't plan on it but if the gains are impressive enough...

Do you need an Operating System

Yes (Win 7)

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire

No.

Where are you buying your parts from

newegg and comparable sites

Thanks


Come back when you plan on building it
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 08 2013 18:24 GMT
#32222
Erhm... the store I ordered from can't make up their mind whether they're about to send me 4x4GB RAM or 2x8GB RAM (no, I'm not kidding).

Is there any disadvantage performance wise (besides having a hard time upgrading) to running 4 modules instead of 2 that I should be aware of? Just in case it actually turns out to be 4 modules..
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 08 2013 18:45 GMT
#32223
On August 09 2013 03:24 r.Evo wrote:
Erhm... the store I ordered from can't make up their mind whether they're about to send me 4x4GB RAM or 2x8GB RAM (no, I'm not kidding).

Is there any disadvantage performance wise (besides having a hard time upgrading) to running 4 modules instead of 2 that I should be aware of? Just in case it actually turns out to be 4 modules..

There shouldn't be any issue performance wise or at least none that you could notice. Only thing to watch is if they have tall heatsinks and you have a big cpu cooler you might struggle to get one of them in.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
August 08 2013 18:59 GMT
#32224
Four modules is harder on the memory controller (might not be able to clock as high at the high end, maybe a hindrance for 2400mhz but you can probs still run it fine) and take up all 4 DIMM slots, so two is preferable for 8gb
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
August 08 2013 19:00 GMT
#32225
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-1150-Intel-Motherboard-GA-Z87X-UD4H/dp/B00CB2B3WE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1375966807&sr=8-5&keywords=ud4h

i have no words
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 08 2013 19:03 GMT
#32226
wow that's a hell of a deal
you could buy that and a 4770k on amazon and beat the micro center combo deal by $30 (last I checked), which is ridiculous
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
August 08 2013 19:06 GMT
#32227
www.overclock.net/t/1416851/amazon-gigabyte-z87x-ud4h-58-00/

Seems like it's not going through, no idea how i missed this by 5 hours
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 08 2013 19:19 GMT
#32228
Seems like a system glitch lol.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:25:42
August 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#32229
Its actually a h61 board apparently

edit : just realised what i wrote.... actually and apparently shouldn't really belong in the same sentence :p
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
August 08 2013 19:31 GMT
#32230
Yes, there's something off with that product. If you click on that link that shows all sellers for it, there's a shitload of sellers all selling it at prices like $65 and that just can't be real.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 08 2013 21:03 GMT
#32231
On August 09 2013 03:45 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 03:24 r.Evo wrote:
Erhm... the store I ordered from can't make up their mind whether they're about to send me 4x4GB RAM or 2x8GB RAM (no, I'm not kidding).

Is there any disadvantage performance wise (besides having a hard time upgrading) to running 4 modules instead of 2 that I should be aware of? Just in case it actually turns out to be 4 modules..

There shouldn't be any issue performance wise or at least none that you could notice. Only thing to watch is if they have tall heatsinks and you have a big cpu cooler you might struggle to get one of them in.

Alright, I'll probably just stick with them instead of taking a week to send them back if it's really 4 modules. Or I force them to send replacement before I return mine, maybe that works. :3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 21:45:42
August 08 2013 21:42 GMT
#32232
On August 09 2013 02:44 Cyro wrote:
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/13339890/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-7870-ghz-editio.html

Gumbi linked me this yesterday, you might want to look at it for your price point

149.90 euro, exchanges into ~£129gbp

wow thanks this is way cheaper then anywhere I have seen

*hmm cant ship anywhere but Ireland for some reason TT
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
August 08 2013 21:58 GMT
#32233
On August 09 2013 06:42 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:44 Cyro wrote:
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/13339890/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-7870-ghz-editio.html

Gumbi linked me this yesterday, you might want to look at it for your price point

149.90 euro, exchanges into ~£129gbp

wow thanks this is way cheaper then anywhere I have seen

*hmm cant ship anywhere but Ireland for some reason TT


The prices just came down like 40€. Now it's a tough decision between the sapphire 7870 and VTX3D Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition (the worst named card ever, because it's nothing like 7870) which costs about 30€ more.
I'm unsure of the performance difference between those cards, can't tell which one to get.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 08 2013 22:25 GMT
#32234
The latter 7870 is more commonly referred to as a 7870 Tahiti LE or XT, which is a cutdown 7950 and would perform similar to a 7950.

Most tech companies don't have a logical naming scheme.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 23:02:55
August 08 2013 22:25 GMT
#32235
On August 09 2013 06:42 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:44 Cyro wrote:
http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/13339890/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-7870-ghz-editio.html

Gumbi linked me this yesterday, you might want to look at it for your price point

149.90 euro, exchanges into ~£129gbp

wow thanks this is way cheaper then anywhere I have seen

*hmm cant ship anywhere but Ireland for some reason TT


Aaaah ouch

He's Irish, i took a few quick looks at it and saw UK

Edit: It's available on pixmania.co.uk, but it's £145 instead of 149euros so more than 10% more expensive
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 23:12:29
August 08 2013 23:11 GMT
#32236
On July 26 2013 04:34 iokke wrote:

Case $50 - Rosewell U3 Midtower Case
OEM 1TB HD + DVD Burner Combo $77 - WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" + Asus drw
RAM $70 - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (single stick) Bought 2x4gb for about same price
PSU $42 ($20AR) - CORSAIR Builder Series CX430m 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC
i3570k + ASRock z77 extreme 3
$544 shipped


Promised I'll update when I build the pc, it's working great, thank you for your input
Only issue I have so far is sometimes when I plug my external drives in they do not appear in the system, but usually unplugging it and plugging it back in helps.
Also had a small issue with the front panel of the case coming off, not sure if it was manufacturing or I broke something (in case someone is looking into the same case). I just put stickers over it as a fix.
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 08 2013 23:34 GMT
#32237
I assume you're plugging them into your USB3 ports, do you get this problem with the USB2 ports as well?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20293 Posts
August 09 2013 08:38 GMT
#32238
http://www.overclock.net/t/1400319/titan-vs-780-stock-bios-reference-card-oc-battle/0_20

Interesting read

I don't think it's worth getting a titan at any point, unless you're putting it under water and flashing a new bios onto it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
August 09 2013 13:47 GMT
#32239
On that note, I tinkered with the cooling on my GTX 560 TI and now it stays below 60c when running things like Heaven, so I guess I could overclock some (or a lot), but I'm seriously scared about the VRM getting too hot. There's heatsinks glued everywhere, but the back side of the card gets seriously hot around the area where the mosfets are on the front. I think I'd burn myself in a split second, so I'm guessing it's a lot hotter than just 70c and that's just the back side of the card.

I can't really find discussions on what to do now. I've seen people write that if I stay within the bounds allowed by the stock BIOS with the voltage, I should be safe. I'm pretty convinced I improved on the card's stock cooling situation for the VRM, but there's no VRM sensor readings provided in software like GPU-Z for this card (does any NVidia card have readings for VRM temperatures?).

If there's no temperature readings for the VRM, does this mean there's no protection and the VRM will simply die if getting too hot?

+ Show Spoiler +
Btw... the surface of the Arctic cooler I had on my graphics card was sooo terrible. It seemed to not make any contact in the middle of the chip. While it still seemed to cool alright, temperatures dropped 20c after some pretty crappily executed lapping. I already had that thing for a while and only noticed how bad the contact was because I wanted to replace the thermal paste.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
August 09 2013 15:20 GMT
#32240
On August 09 2013 08:34 skyR wrote:
I assume you're plugging them into your USB3 ports, do you get this problem with the USB2 ports as well?

This is fixed with windows 8 and native usb3 right?
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