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^This is pretty good resource, not a great guide for somebody new to overclocking though. I can talk through some settings if you want, we didn't have many haswell overclockers here yet
I will probably take you up on this soon. My most recent OC was an Ivy Bridge, and an 1150 is a more complicated affair.
I'm getting a Haswell i7-4770K with a good PSU, case and cooler. I've been recommended these:
What will the z87x-OC give you that a z87x-ud3 or z87x-ud3h won't? Is there anything specifically that you want?
Belial's running delidded CPU to temperature limits with a h110 and four fans on a ud3h, which has pretty much same VRM stuff as ud3, and he's like, the only person on overclock.net doing that kind of 24/7 overclock on Haswell, are you really so extreme that you need better, or is there a specific feature you want out of the OC? I didn't think a different z87 board could offer more PCI-E lanes. You don't need more than PCI-E 3.0 x8/x8 for 2-way SLI 780's
h100i is similar to performance with nh-d14, maybe a few degrees better but a lot louder*, liquid doesn't pull away from air until you do stuff like custom fans, push/pull or full custom setup
*corsair lists the fans as 37.68dba, +10db = doubled volume - my loudest fans are few db over 20, so those fans have to make well over 3x as much noise
Personally, i'd at least add extra fans etc if you're gonna be throwing 600w of heat into the case in gaming load, i have one intake right now and a 170mm exhaust, with half of that heat generation in the case, stuff gets hot. I'd probably put airflow as first priority when buying a case, actually looking quickly at a few for sli 770+4770k i bookmarked the Xigmatek Elysium (can put 2x 120mm front intake, 2x 200mm bottom intake, 1x 200mm side intake, 2x 200mm top exhaust, 1x 140mm rear exhaust) but that's a little OTT
On August 07 2013 16:10 Cyro wrote: Should be simple, samsung 840 basic is good, cheap and pretty common but 830/840/840pro doesn't really matter at all, why back up and restore though? I'd just have a blank windows slate maybe with some drivers, cause you have an ssd now you can drop that on in like 10 or 15 minutes
Had a really bad experience where a clean install left me with a clean windows with no drivers, including USB and wifi, so I couldn't even download them. Lost the discs while moving house and the laptop was bought a few years back heh. My bad, but I agree that would be the better option.
Thankfully, after an hour of digging, I found a hard drive with a system image of my old laptop.
Had a really bad experience where a clean install left me with a clean windows with no drivers, including USB and wifi, so I couldn't even download them.
That's what's supposed to happen, there's a disc with desktop mobo's that'll give you them in 20 seconds (though you should have usb i think..) not sure for laptops though. I would think disc with them
x16/x16 was mainly for future-proofing, although by the time it becomes relevant I might want a mobo upgrade anyway. The tentative pick - if it's indeed a poor one - was done mainly after doing some online research which claimed it had an easier time overclocking due to some additional settings available out of the box. This is why I posted here -- to be told when I'm being an idiot. I'll get the UD3H as it's a little bit cheaper (and is in stock, unlike the UD3).
Cabinets are where my computer knowledge absolutely stops, and I basically have to rely on recommendations online. I'll keep plodding away at it right now, but if you could take a quick look at the alternatives from this retailer and quickly suggest one you might be familiar with I would appreciate it.
SLI is coming a bit further down the line, at which point I'll likely improve my cooling system. For now I'm getting a single GTX780, so if I run into any heating problems with whatever cabinet I go with I'll be very surprised (and also deal with it then by just getting more fans immediately).
If there's something more than twice as bandwidth heavy as sli780's (which are within a few % of titan) before 2014/2015 (depending if you get enthusiast haswell or wait for skylake) i'l be impressed :D
AMD boards don't support PCI-E 3.0 yet, for example. PCI-E 3.0 x8 has as much bandwidth as 2.0 x16, you're not seriously held back til you drop below like 2.0x8, PCI-E bandwidth is not a concern at all unless you're going past 2 cards on z87, all of the decent boards run 3.0 x8/x8 or something like that which is entirely too much bandwidth
It's easier not to replace case, PSU etc with dropping in a second card, so buy with it in mind if you seriously plan to SLI
And in terms of case, i don't know much. More airflow = better, multiple intakes and exhausts are good
More fans = more airflow, bigger fans = more airflow and better airflow to noise ratio's. The individual fans are important too, some are more focused on low noise than others and they'll have substantially less air moved, but if you have half a dozen fans, it won't really matter
Haha fair enough, I wasn't aware of the PCI-E 2.0 / 3.0 @ x8/x16 differences; I was (very quickly) going by the OP in this thread regarding mobos and then looking at some online recommendations. I'm trying to get this build done reasonably fast so I haven't been researching as well as I would like.
I'll see if I can find some info on a few of the cabinets they have in stock and then place the order.
Thanks for the advice, it's great stuff and I really appreciate it. ♥
Good news, the Xeon e3-1240v2 works perfectly with my GA-H61M-S2PV (Rev 2.0)
Am I crazy to think it boots in half the time it used to, even though I haven't upgraded to an SSD? Unfortunately I still can't get a hackintosh installation (or a VMWare/Virtualbox OSX) to work.
Can't win 'em all, I guess I'll probably be running on Ubuntu here on out! Thanks for the help guys.
One more quick question: How bad is having 667MHz RAM? I hear of people with 1600MHz and even 2400MHz and wonder if it makes a significant difference. I think my total memory bandwidth(?) is 1T, which i think is a tiny fraction of what memory controllers can handle....
Is it worth dropping $80 on faster RAM, or is it better spent first on a solid state drive?
Edit: Never mind, the RAM I have right now is actually 1333MHz, but I recently bought a 2nd 4GB stick without checking the specs, so it could be that the new RAM is 667MHz which forces the other controller to run really slow. I'll keep you posted...
I had a 6870 so I am thinking that a 7870 might be a decent choice. Is the 660 the equivelant NVIDIA card (or is it the 660ti ) and if so how does it stack up against the AMD card? On searching I get alot of mixed answers and some tech speak that I dont really understand...
Gonna migrate totally to pc for this gen so hopefully one of these would be a good start for a year or so
On August 09 2013 00:41 TheMooseHeed wrote: So after my GPU blew I need to get a new one.
I had a 6870 so I am thinking that a 7870 might be a decent choice. Is the 660 the equivelant NVIDIA card (or is it the 660ti ) and if so how does it stack up against the AMD card? On searching I get alot of mixed answers and some tech speak that I dont really understand...
Gonna migrate totally to pc for this gen so hopefully one of these would be a good start for a year or so
But remember that many GPU reviews etc don't take into account overclocking.
I can only get a few % core OC on my 770 because they're locked to stock voltage, but 7950's/7970's for example i hear many come stock @900-950mhz and you can clock them to 1100 easily (1200+ higher end) because you have core voltage control
On August 09 2013 00:41 TheMooseHeed wrote: So after my GPU blew I need to get a new one.
I had a 6870 so I am thinking that a 7870 might be a decent choice. Is the 660 the equivelant NVIDIA card (or is it the 660ti ) and if so how does it stack up against the AMD card? On searching I get alot of mixed answers and some tech speak that I dont really understand...
Gonna migrate totally to pc for this gen so hopefully one of these would be a good start for a year or so
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