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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:07:04
August 12 2013 14:34 GMT
#32301
Just to make sure I don't screw this up. The PSU has a total of 4 2x6 spots where I can plug power cables in. I'm about to use one of those with a cable that's split into 2x4 and reads "CPU1-P4"+"CPU2-P8" at those ends. That's the "8 pin connector" for my CPU on the MB, correct?

Is there some overview for those labels on a be quiet dark power?

VGA/SATA/HDD seem obvious. "PCIe/MB" is going to be what? :3

edit: If I plug my casefans into the MB connections instead of the built-in one for the case I can control them later via software, also right? If yes I'll just do that instead.

e2: NEVERMIND about the CPU connection. Could have just tried plugin it in to figure out where it clearly doesn't belong. >_>

e3: THIS CPU FAN WILL KILL ME WHILE TRYING TO GET IN THE 8 PIN CONNECTOR JESUS CHRIST WHY IS IT SO BIG T_____T

e4: Evo 1 Phanteks 0. At least I know Cyro would have been proud of how I used my thermal paste.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
August 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#32302
On August 12 2013 23:34 r.Evo wrote:
Just to make sure I don't screw this up. The PSU has a total of 4 2x6 spots where I can plug power cables in. I'm about to use one of those with a cable that's split into 2x4 and reads "CPU1-P4"+"CPU2-P8" at those ends. That's the "8 pin connector" for my CPU on the MB, correct?

Yes.

Is there some overview for those labels on a be quiet dark power?

Erm, as long as the pins fit in the sockets along with a little bit of common sense/care, it will be fine.

VGA/SATA/HDD seem obvious. "PCIe/MB" is going to be what? :3

A 6 or 8 pin connector (and an 8pin and 24pin for motherboard)? Not really sure what yo're asking.

edit: If I plug my casefans into the MB connections instead of the built-in one for the case I can control them later via software, also right? If yes I'll just do that instead.

Yes, you can set the fan profiles for various output headers in the bios.

e2: NEVERMIND about the CPU connection. Could have just tried plugin it in to figure out where it clearly doesn't belong. >_>

e3: THIS CPU FAN WILL KILL ME WHILE TRYING TO GET IN THE 8 PIN CONNECTOR JESUS CHRIST WHY IS IT SO BIG T_____T

I... I won't ask.

e4: Evo 1 Phanteks 0. At least I know Cyro would have been proud of how I used my thermal paste.

:D

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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 12 2013 15:26 GMT
#32303
Yeah put fans onto the mobo unless your case has a nice controller. Sounds like you got everything else sorted?
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
August 12 2013 15:31 GMT
#32304
On August 12 2013 23:34 r.Evo wrote:
Just to make sure I don't screw this up. The PSU has a total of 4 2x6 spots where I can plug power cables in. I'm about to use one of those with a cable that's split into 2x4 and reads "CPU1-P4"+"CPU2-P8" at those ends. That's the "8 pin connector" for my CPU on the MB, correct?

Is there some overview for those labels on a be quiet dark power?

VGA/SATA/HDD seem obvious. "PCIe/MB" is going to be what? :3

edit: If I plug my casefans into the MB connections instead of the built-in one for the case I can control them later via software, also right? If yes I'll just do that instead.

e2: NEVERMIND about the CPU connection. Could have just tried plugin it in to figure out where it clearly doesn't belong. >_>

e3: THIS CPU FAN WILL KILL ME WHILE TRYING TO GET IN THE 8 PIN CONNECTOR JESUS CHRIST WHY IS IT SO BIG T_____T

e4: Evo 1 Phanteks 0. At least I know Cyro would have been proud of how I used my thermal paste.


This is the best post I've read all day lol
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 15:46:04
August 12 2013 15:39 GMT
#32305
My sys fan spots on the MB are 4 pin, my fans are 3 min. That means I'd need PWM adapters for each to control them and I should just use the case control with its 5/7/12V settings instead for now, correct?

Shush Aylear, that stupid thing cut me first before I removed it. :<

@Rollin: I have one cable that's connecting to a 6pin labeled PCIe/MB. Since it's the only cable from which I only have one it seems kinda important.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 16:21:01
August 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#32306
You have to look that up in the manual. My board can do voltage control for 3-pin fans on the first of the system fan headers and the cpu fan header but not on any of the others. Those would need 4-pin pwm fans for control to work.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
ShootingQuasar
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom44 Posts
August 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#32307
Hey guys I posted on this forum before, I am planning to build a computer for the following purposes,

Gaming (mostly SC2, LoL, but may dabble in battlefield and such)

CAD nad coding, and LOT of typing,

So i research around and found prices and did a "model" build, can someone please give me their opinion on this?

CPU i5-4670K
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z87 Motherboard
RAM Corsair Vengance 8GB
GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti
PSU Corsair CX750 750 W Power Supply
Case Cm Storm Scout 2
HDD Samsung 1Tb 32MB Cache 7200 RPM HDD
SSD Kingston Hyper X 120 Gb SSD
Keyboard Steel Seires 6GV2 Red Switch
Mouse Razer Abyssus
OS Windows 8


Please any advice/improvement/opinions on this would be useful. Also Can someone please recommend a good keyboard that is good for both sc2 and general typing :D Many thanks
No need Build Orders, Only Micro
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 12 2013 18:44 GMT
#32308
Answer all the questions in the op, we will be able to help you more

but at first glance :
change motherboard to gygabyte z87x-ud3h
gtx660ti to a gtx760
psu to superflower golden green 450 (or if you want to sli later go for a higher wattage model, xfx core is good too, OCZ ZS/ZT series is good and is pretty cheap)
change ssd to Samsung 840 series
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 18:52:05
August 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#32309
On August 13 2013 03:34 ShootingQuasar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys I posted on this forum before, I am planning to build a computer for the following purposes,

Gaming (mostly SC2, LoL, but may dabble in battlefield and such)

CAD nad coding, and LOT of typing,

So i research around and found prices and did a "model" build, can someone please give me their opinion on this?

CPU i5-4670K
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z87 Motherboard
RAM Corsair Vengance 8GB
GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti
PSU Corsair CX750 750 W Power Supply
Case Cm Storm Scout 2
HDD Samsung 1Tb 32MB Cache 7200 RPM HDD
SSD Kingston Hyper X 120 Gb SSD
Keyboard Steel Seires 6GV2 Red Switch
Mouse Razer Abyssus
OS Windows 8


Please any advice/improvement/opinions on this would be useful. Also Can someone please recommend a good keyboard that is good for both sc2 and general typing :D Many thanks


The 'z' in z87 and 'k' in 4670k denote overclocking. If you are going to overclock then you need a cpu cooler, if you aren't you can save a little bit of money by getting cheaper processor and mobo. Or you can keep it how it is and add a cooler later when you want to overclock.

Keyboard wise, all the coolermaster keyboards are good (quickfire rapid is best, others are fine). If you don't care about money you can grab a filco from keyboardco in the UK.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 12 2013 21:26 GMT
#32310
Slept in between, TI3 too strong.

We have basic functionality!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
August 13 2013 01:58 GMT
#32311
On August 12 2013 12:00 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:35 Stoids wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
~$1400

What is your resolution?

2 monitors. Both 1920x1080

What are you using it for?

Gaming, watching movies, streams. I play most new games that are coming out and would like to be able to run them with ease. I'd also like the GPU/CPU to run relatively cool. Definitely want a full size case.

What is your upgrade cycle?

3 years

When do you plan on building it?

Within a month.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Yes, CPU.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Single card preferred.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg/Amazon


Totals to $1260. If you need a disc drive than add one for ~$15. Keep in mind the Define R4 is a mid-tower case and mid-towers are already very spacey if you don't do SLI / Crossfire, have a dozen HDDs, or do custom liquid. If you want a full-tower to house eight+ HDDs or radiators than you are welcome to select your own full-tower case that meets your needs / wants.

Intel Core i5 4670k @ $219
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW

Gigabyte Z87X-D3H @ $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591

Gigabyte GTX 770 @ $400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125463

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

G.Skill Ares 2400MHz @ $63 (w/ promo code GAMNGWK26, ends 8/12)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231665

Fractal Design Define R4 @ $80 (w/ promo code EMCXMXP42, ends 8/12)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020

Samsung 840 250gb @ $165
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7TD250BW-Solid-State-2-5-Inch/dp/B009NHAEXE

Western Digital Blue 1TB @ $63
http://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK

Noctua NH-U14S @ $75
http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U14S-Sockets-Heatpipe-Cooling/dp/B00C9FLSLY

Thanks for the quick and perfect response skyR. I won't be placing my order till next week, so would you still recommend the case without the promo deal?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 13 2013 02:00 GMT
#32312
Yes, you can just purchase it off Amazon for the same price or get another variant for slightly more, like the window black varaint for $10 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352021
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 13 2013 18:52 GMT
#32313
Alright guys. I'm (semi-)happily posting from the new PC, all seems fine so far. I ran Intel Burn Test / Heaven and Prime 95, the first two at around ~25° room temp the latter at both ~25°C and later at ~16°C room temp. I used Core Temp 1.0 RC5 to check the temps, SpeedFan was unprecise as fuck. All case fans+CPU fan ran at 100%, manually set via SpeedFan (I ended up connecting fans to MB).

Intel Burn Test: Hit a max temp of 93°C
Heaven: Hit an average of ~78°C with peaks at 80°C for the GPU
Prime 95: Hit 78°C max in the first run and 73°C max in the second run.

This seems way too fucking hot across the board if I'm understanding you guys correctly. Could there be some kind of voltage increase going on from the stock MB? Is that me fucking up the thermal paste somehow? What are my next steps to identify what's causing it?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 13 2013 19:05 GMT
#32314
On August 14 2013 03:52 r.Evo wrote:
Alright guys. I'm (semi-)happily posting from the new PC, all seems fine so far. I ran Intel Burn Test / Heaven and Prime 95, the first two at around ~25° room temp the latter at both ~25°C and later at ~16°C room temp. I used Core Temp 1.0 RC5 to check the temps, SpeedFan was unprecise as fuck. All case fans+CPU fan ran at 100%, manually set via SpeedFan (I ended up connecting fans to MB).

Intel Burn Test: Hit a max temp of 93°C
Heaven: Hit an average of ~78°C with peaks at 80°C for the GPU
Prime 95: Hit 78°C max in the first run and 73°C max in the second run.

This seems way too fucking hot across the board if I'm understanding you guys correctly. Could there be some kind of voltage increase going on from the stock MB? Is that me fucking up the thermal paste somehow? What are my next steps to identify what's causing it?


GPU temps are fine. CPU temps are bit high for stock because that leaves you no room temp wise for overclocking. What are your idle temps and do you get a motherboard temp readout anywhere?

If mobo temps are normal and idles high then you probably just stuffed up mounting the cpu cooler, easy and common mistake. Just try again.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 19:30:47
August 13 2013 19:22 GMT
#32315
On August 14 2013 04:05 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 03:52 r.Evo wrote:
Alright guys. I'm (semi-)happily posting from the new PC, all seems fine so far. I ran Intel Burn Test / Heaven and Prime 95, the first two at around ~25° room temp the latter at both ~25°C and later at ~16°C room temp. I used Core Temp 1.0 RC5 to check the temps, SpeedFan was unprecise as fuck. All case fans+CPU fan ran at 100%, manually set via SpeedFan (I ended up connecting fans to MB).

Intel Burn Test: Hit a max temp of 93°C
Heaven: Hit an average of ~78°C with peaks at 80°C for the GPU
Prime 95: Hit 78°C max in the first run and 73°C max in the second run.

This seems way too fucking hot across the board if I'm understanding you guys correctly. Could there be some kind of voltage increase going on from the stock MB? Is that me fucking up the thermal paste somehow? What are my next steps to identify what's causing it?


GPU temps are fine. CPU temps are bit high for stock because that leaves you no room temp wise for overclocking. What are your idle temps and do you get a motherboard temp readout anywhere?

If mobo temps are normal and idles high then you probably just stuffed up mounting the cpu cooler, easy and common mistake. Just try again.

What tool should I use for reading it out?

Idle:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



I'm not sure which sensor is what yet, when I run Prime95 Temp3 goes up the highest (still about 10°C behind the readouts from Core Temp) but Core 0 is like 5-6°C right behind it. All the other readouts stay between 28°C and 36°C.

e: Keep in mind this is NOT with the stock cooler but with the Phanteks. Time to mount it again and again till it stays... how low under Prime95?

e2: Oh and on top of what Antoine said for cleaning CPU/cooler I used 70% alcohol until there was no more residue on q-tips and I use the paste that came with it (PH-NDC). Should I switch any of that up?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2013 19:23 GMT
#32316
What CPU/cooler do you have?
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 13 2013 19:25 GMT
#32317
he has a 4770k with the Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Yes, that does seem a bit hot. IBT can sometimes go very high w/ AVX, though.
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findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
August 13 2013 19:35 GMT
#32318
does anyone know where i can buy high quality custom colored and sleeved PSU cables? My friend got some from frozenCPU, is that the best bet? Most people who sleeve their psu themselves seem to do a much better job, i'm wondering whether there's some company that specializes in selling these...
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2013 20:22 GMT
#32319
There are some but they usually sell them for the PSU's they manufacture. What psu are you talking about?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
ShootingQuasar
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom44 Posts
August 13 2013 21:44 GMT
#32320
This is a continuation frommy post earlier, just answering the questions on the main (first page )

What is your budget?

My budget is £1000

What is your resolution?

1920x1080 currently, but I would like to go higher if possible in uture :D Currently I own a screen with 1080p resolution, but am hoping to upgrade to a higher resolution screen later.


What are you using it for?

I will be using the Computer for thing like lab reports, coding, gaming (sc2 and LoL mostly but occasionally play games like battlefield and Skyrim) CAD, maybe some CFD simulation if possible but not on the top of my list

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-5 years


When do you plan on building it?

Sometime within the next year :D

Do you plan on overclocking?
I dont not know how to overclock and do not fully understand when water cooling is required ? for the tasks I listed earlier will cooling be required?


Do you need an Operating System?
No


Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I dont fully understand how SLII works, I just know that it means you can have 2 or more GPUs , but I dont know how that affects power requirements (ie simple scaling) , if its beneficial to buy say 2 gtx 660tis than one gtx 680 or something of that sort then im open to the idea :D If someone could elaborate on how this works please let me know id be very thankful :D

Where are you buying your parts from?

Amazon or PC World

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