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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 02 2011 01:48 GMT
#3021
Just got this from Newegg regarding Sandybridge:

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to serve you. Newegg has recently become aware of a design issue that is affecting recent models of Intel Sandy Bridge platform motherboards. We are working with Intel to identify the exact nature of this problem.

As always, Newegg remains 100% committed to our customers' total satisfaction. In keeping with our commitment to our customers, we are extending the return period for your motherboard by 90 days or until replacements become available from the manufacturer, whichever is greater. Intel expects to have a new revision of the P67 & H67 chipsets out around April, at which point first-run motherboards with this issue will need to be physically replaced in affected systems.

From a technical standpoint, the design issue can be bypassed fairly simply by not using the Serial ATA (SATA) ports that are affected. Your motherboard’s manual should identify your SATA ports by number, and at a minimum you should see ports 0-5 (6 ports in total) listed. Ports 0 and 1 are Sata Rev. III (6Gbps), and do not appear to be affected by this problem. Ports 2-5 are SATA Rev. II (3Gbps) and should not be used. For a thorough explanation of this hardware work-around, please refer to our video on YouTube:


If you choose to use the hardware work-around option, there is no need to contact us at this time. We have your information on record and will email you as soon as the replacements become available. If you would like to discuss this with our tech community or read up on the latest updates, please visit our EggXpert forum:
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/682006.aspx

If none of the above options are suitable to your needs and you wish to return the board at this time for a full refund, please email us at intelsandybridge@newegg.com and include your sales order number so we can help you out with your return.

If you have any concerns, please contact Newegg Customer Service for further information and assistance.

Thank you for your support!
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
February 02 2011 02:03 GMT
#3022
April. Lol.

People are not going to wait till APRIL to get a new SB cpu + mobo. AMD here I come...
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
February 02 2011 02:43 GMT
#3023
There's something truly hilarious about Newegg writing it out in LARGE letters on a whiteboard, for emphasis.

You know, just in case the dozens of articles didn't cover it in full already.
With no power comes no responsibility?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 02 2011 18:36 GMT
#3024
lol AMD lowered Phenom prices again =p

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20341
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 02 2011 19:36 GMT
#3025
i love newegg

so much

<3
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#3026
I'm looking for a good processor that is under like $150 I'm guessing the Phenom II x2 555 BE is my best choice? (i has AMD motherboard. Well not really amd but asus m3a78-em)
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#3027
On February 03 2011 03:36 skyR wrote:
lol AMD lowered Phenom prices again =p

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20341

because intel's cpu even though they have less cores perform just as good if not better in most cases for the same price. and amd can't have any of that they already don't make as much money as intel does per chip
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
February 02 2011 22:32 GMT
#3028
This really sucks. My laptop died last week, so I was planning on getting a new desktop with a sandy bridge processor. Now I'm not quite sure what to do.

Should I wait for the new boards? This leaves me without my own computer (and no SC2!) for a few months, which is impractical.

Should I invest in a lower end AMD/Intel desktop? I suspect this would be more than enough to play SC2 well, but long term I might be losing out in terms of upgradeability or usability.

Should I get a low end laptop/fix my old laptop? This costs about the same but I'm left with a computer that can only play SC2 on low and I'll still require a new desktop at some point.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 02 2011 22:56 GMT
#3029
Hey guys, since Sandybridge got delayed, I'm considering trying a cheaper alternative until I can buy a really nice computer all at once.

So my question would be, what would be the minumum / cheapest computer that would smoothly run SC2 on Ultra at 60+ FPS? I'm guessing I could get away with a much cheaper processor than the Sandybridge 2500k, and I'm guessing even GTX460 might be slight overkill?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 23:54:58
February 02 2011 23:46 GMT
#3030
On February 03 2011 07:56 Shikyo wrote:
Hey guys, since Sandybridge got delayed, I'm considering trying a cheaper alternative until I can buy a really nice computer all at once.

So my question would be, what would be the minumum / cheapest computer that would smoothly run SC2 on Ultra at 60+ FPS? I'm guessing I could get away with a much cheaper processor than the Sandybridge 2500k, and I'm guessing even GTX460 might be slight overkill?


60+ FPS on Ultra can be very demanding. But it really depends on the scenario. In a 4on4 with multiple motherhips and a shit load of units even a high end setup might not always be able to deliver that. But for normal situations your are of course fine with a normal setup.

I suggest an AMD system, since they have reduced their prices a little bit since sandy bridge, while intel left the old stuff at the same prices. I would go for:
CPU: Phenom II X4 955
Board: ASRock 870 Extreme3
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 OC

This might not be the bare minimum but a very solid build that is not too expensive.

edit: So this suggesting would not be something you swap for a 2500k later on, but would be fine until ivy bridge or even longer.
aka DTF-ZeRo
Aduromors
Profile Joined July 2009
United States279 Posts
February 02 2011 23:47 GMT
#3031
On February 03 2011 07:56 Shikyo wrote:
Hey guys, since Sandybridge got delayed, I'm considering trying a cheaper alternative until I can buy a really nice computer all at once.

So my question would be, what would be the minumum / cheapest computer that would smoothly run SC2 on Ultra at 60+ FPS? I'm guessing I could get away with a much cheaper processor than the Sandybridge 2500k, and I'm guessing even GTX460 might be slight overkill?


AMD phenom II x2 555, preferably overclocked, and a gtx460 768mb, though the 2500k isn't really overkill for Starcraft 2 and anything less than that will suffer in large battles
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
February 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#3032
On February 03 2011 07:56 Shikyo wrote:
Hey guys, since Sandybridge got delayed, I'm considering trying a cheaper alternative until I can buy a really nice computer all at once.

So my question would be, what would be the minumum / cheapest computer that would smoothly run SC2 on Ultra at 60+ FPS? I'm guessing I could get away with a much cheaper processor than the Sandybridge 2500k, and I'm guessing even GTX460 might be slight overkill?



What if you bought all 'really nice' parts, except the mobo and cpu, and use a cheaper set? Then, when Sandybridge returns, you would just need to buy a new mobo/cpu and swap them out? It might make more sense (and save you money) compared to buying a weaker rig, then upgrading most parts again soon.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 11:47:50
February 03 2011 10:14 GMT
#3033
On February 02 2011 11:03 PolSC2 wrote:
April. Lol.

People are not going to wait till APRIL to get a new SB cpu + mobo. AMD here I come...


lol that's pretty much what I did.

Fuck Intel... I've been waiting forever for Sandy Bridge to be released and then they fuck up their motherboards. I'm not waiting for that shit. I'll always be waiting for the "next best thing" if I keep playing the waiting game.

Just got my federal + state tax refund. CHECKOUT TIME!

http://img709.imageshack.us/i/newegg1.jpg/
http://img232.imageshack.us/i/newegg2.jpg/
http://img163.imageshack.us/i/newegg3.jpg/

GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
February 03 2011 14:21 GMT
#3034
Seems like it might be possible again to buy sandy bridge boards. Asus and Gigabyte are considering to continue selling the defective boards with a notice and then have a program to swap them later on.
I think this would be the best solution for everybody. Of course the swapping will be annoying and expensive, but the boards have been made and many customers want the new platform, so they might as well just sell them.
aka DTF-ZeRo
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-03 18:13:18
February 03 2011 18:12 GMT
#3035
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 28 2011 11:27 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2011 05:01 Ganjamaster wrote:
On December 16 2010 00:51 Ganjamaster wrote:
Hey TL,

I want to build myself a new PC for gaming and movies mainly. I used to be into computer builds and whatnot but I have not been keeping up to date for a couple of years now so it turns out I don´t know anything anymore for practical purposes. Please advise on a computer build that will suit my needs adequately, I will post the questions on the OP and fill them in for your convenience.Thank you for your time and help, it is much appreciated.

What is your budget?

2000 - 2500 USD

What is your resolution?

I need to buy a new display for this rig as well. I guess the resolution would be limited by the display, hence the highest possible/feasible for the display chosen?

What are you using it for?

I will be using this computer for gaming of all sorts and general office work (no photoshop, no Autocad or any other design software)

What is your upgrade cycle?

My upgrade cycle is long. Since importing tech to my country is expensive and time consuming, I only do it every once in while (2 + years), so it must be built to last.

When do you plan on building it?

I plan on acquiring these parts around mid to the end of February.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

A priori no, but if you think it provides a substantial benefit in any major department, I might consider it.

Notes

I am moving to a new apartment and this computer will be placed in my new "office". In the living room I am going to put a new, 46 inch HD flatscreen. I would like to watch HD media from my computer on this TV. What is the best way to do so, considering the TV would be located in a separate room than the computer?. Achieving this objective is paramount to building the rig in question (HD GSL on 46 inch tv...)

Thanks!



As per the suggestion of the tech forum gurus, I am reiterating my petition for information at this time when it is actually relevant as I will be acquiring the components soon. I have been working with the designer about the apartment floorplan and it will be difficult to make a hole in the wall to put an HDMI through (I am still going to try). In consequence, being able to stream wirelessly from the computer to the TV efficiently would be fantastic, although I still want to have an HDMI out from the computer in case it does not work. The TV I am probably going to get is this (suggestions on this are also very welcome!):

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666193161

Additionally, some wireless speaker system recommendation would also be awesome.


Again thanks in advance!


With that budget, I would suggest getting two systems, 1 HTPC to use near your TV and one seperate system for gaming and file storage. Wireless HDMI products are pricey, whereas Wireless-N networking (or heck, even oldschool G) is not.

For the HTPC, you really dont have to build anything expensive. Virtually all modern CPUs can handle 1080p content.

In modern AV systems, you really only have 1 cable going to the TV anyways, just for video. Everything is plugged into the receiver.

If you really want to have wireless speakers, I wouldn't bother too much with browsing the internet and asking for advice on systems - everyone will tell you the same story, "LOL". They will insist you spend the money on higher end gear. But I'm a believer in the fact that not everyone cares about discerning every individual frequency of sound, and if you're like that, just goto your local best buy, find some systems in your price range and features, and return to google to see what other owners have to say about it.

Let us know what you think.


I think this is a great idea. I took a look at the Mac mini since it is pretty small and it looks nice aesthetically. I am afraid though that it might be overpriced (given the history of overpricing mac stuff). Do you have any other options for HTPCs that you think I should consider?

Additionally, do you guys know of a good, solid gaming computer builds for a 1,500 dollar budget that includes a nice 25-27" display?

Again, thank you very much for your help!

PS: Will post pictures when I have everything setup.


My hoes be the thickest, my dro.. the stickiest
bonedOUT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States140 Posts
February 04 2011 10:44 GMT
#3036
hey guys I was wondering if this a good instructional video for the actual putting together for a computer?



i really have no experience whatsoever putting a computer together. If this video isnt a good one, is there a better one? Thanks!
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
February 04 2011 12:40 GMT
#3037
It's ok, but his power supply information is way off. First of all who the hell is giving Diablotek GOOD reviews??? I sure wouldn't buy from that company and another thing... wtf you don't need a 1000w power supply to run crossfire 5770s
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
February 04 2011 13:59 GMT
#3038
My first build went smoothly guys. Thanks everyone. Everything is installed but my Hyper 212+ cooler which is stuck in Dallas due to the weather.

Does anyone know anything about Phenom II unlocking? I was able to get into windows 7 with all four cores perfectly fine with no problems. However prime95 crashes after 2-3 minutes. I didn't want to change the voltage until I got my cooler. Since I was able to get into windows, does that mean there is a high possibility that my four cores are in good shape or is it possible they are still defective?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 04 2011 15:41 GMT
#3039
On February 04 2011 22:59 holynorth wrote:
My first build went smoothly guys. Thanks everyone. Everything is installed but my Hyper 212+ cooler which is stuck in Dallas due to the weather.

Does anyone know anything about Phenom II unlocking? I was able to get into windows 7 with all four cores perfectly fine with no problems. However prime95 crashes after 2-3 minutes. I didn't want to change the voltage until I got my cooler. Since I was able to get into windows, does that mean there is a high possibility that my four cores are in good shape or is it possible they are still defective?

The cores are often partially or mostly defective, such that they won't overclock very well or that they just cause your computer to crash whenever doing anything stressful. "Defective" just means that there is some unintended flaw in the physical (chemical) composition of the transistors. e.g. some impurity in the silicon causing excess leakage current. In some other cases, the transistors are so messed up that you'd just get wrong values all the time, so the cores are completely unusable.

It's common for an unstable system (overclock or unlocked cores) to load the OS but not pass through something like prime95. It's possible that you might be able to use all the cores or maybe 3 of 4 if you apply more voltage, which can compensate for less serious defects.
Oneiricer
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia3 Posts
February 05 2011 12:44 GMT
#3040
Hi Guys

Was wondering if you could provide a few pointers for me. I've built my brand new system and its all ready to go, except i cant even get windows 7 to install. For some reason my C: only has 32 megs, and my d: has the correct 100g with the remainder e: having 900g.

When i try to install windows on the d: it reads for 20 mins then fails. Also i can't seem to get rid of my C:. I tried going into fdisk to delete the partition, and then format, however the format gets stuck at 34% for a long time.

Is there something physically wrong with my HDD, or am i not following the procedures properly?
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