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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 16:53:56
January 31 2011 16:09 GMT
#2981
nvm. reacted too soon.

"The systems with the affected support chips have only been shipping since January 9th"

Since I bought it on release date, I highly doubt I'm affected by this. Or maybe I am? Their wording really irritates me -_- systems as in prebuilts or motherboards? ****ing intel ><
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 31 2011 16:24 GMT
#2982
Hm that sucks. But i am not quite sure if it affects me or not. Does every Sandy Bridge Board use this controller? Or just some of them? I got the AsRock P67 Pro3. But on the specification page at asrock i didn't find the name of the controller.
Is there a list of affected boards?
aka DTF-ZeRo
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 16:54:14
January 31 2011 16:28 GMT
#2983
On February 01 2011 01:24 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
Hm that sucks. But i am not quite sure if it affects me or not. Does every Sandy Bridge Board use this controller? Or just some of them? I got the AsRock P67 Pro3. But on the specification page at asrock i didn't find the name of the controller.
Is there a list of affected boards?


The P67 chipset controls the 6 sata controllers on your board so its highly likely you're affected.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 31 2011 17:01 GMT
#2984
Oh, so I was about to buy a i5 2500K and a P67 board. Are there some manufacturers that this doesn't affect?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 17:31:53
January 31 2011 17:13 GMT
#2985
On February 01 2011 02:01 Shikyo wrote:
Oh, so I was about to buy a i5 2500K and a P67 board. Are there some manufacturers that this doesn't affect?


Every manufacturer uses P67 so everybody is affected by Intel's expensive mistake. EVGA said this doesn't affect them but their boards haven't even been released yet so >.>
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 18:04:54
January 31 2011 18:01 GMT
#2986
Update from Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall

Intel Discovers Bug in 6-Series Chipset: Our Analysis
It’s Limited to 3Gbps Ports Only
Interestingly enough the problem doesn’t affect ports 1 & 2 on the 6-series chipset. Remember that Intel has two 6Gbps ports and four 3Gbps ports on P67/H67, only the latter four are impacted by this problem.

The Fix
The SATA bug exists in hardware and there’s no way to provide a driver or firmware update that can fix it. The fix requires a metal layer change, which will result in a new hardware stepping (resulting in the ~3 week delay before replacement hardware is ready).


What About Current Sandy Bridge Owners?
On its conference call to discuss the issue, Intel told me that it hasn’t been made aware of a single failure seen by customers. Intel expects that over 3 years of use it would see a failure rate of approximately 5 - 15% depending on usage model. Remember this problem isn’t a functional issue but rather one of those nasty statistical issues, so by nature it should take time to show up in large numbers (at the same time there should still be some very isolated incidents of failure early on).

Intel has already halted production of its 6-series chipsets and will begin shipping fixed versions of the chipset in late February. You can expect motherboard shortages through March at least. Intel hopes to be able to meet demand by April.

Intel is starting to have discussions with OEMs today (yep, you read that right) on how to handle the recall and when fixed hardware will be available. This is the reason why there’s currently no official, public recall plan in place. In the coming weeks I expect this to get ironed out but for now the best advice I can give existing SNB owners is to use their 6Gbps ports and wait.


With no power comes no responsibility?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 31 2011 18:21 GMT
#2987
So if I'm planning on only using 2 hard drives, this doesn't affect me at all?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
blue`
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom119 Posts
January 31 2011 18:35 GMT
#2988
No it shouldn't, in fact it won't affect most people in any way at all. Intel are just being a responsible company, much to the detriment of their stock value
Easter has been cancelled, they found the body
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
January 31 2011 18:49 GMT
#2989
On February 01 2011 03:21 Shikyo wrote:
So if I'm planning on only using 2 hard drives, this doesn't affect me at all?


As long as you're using the SATA 6Gb/S connections and you only need two of them, yeah.

...Unless they find something wrong with those two. Grawr.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
January 31 2011 18:49 GMT
#2990
well realistically if it was found out later than intel found out about the issue and hid it, and a significant number of people had failures, they'd probably get sued which would hurt more
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
January 31 2011 19:14 GMT
#2991
I would send the board back anyways
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
lol999
Profile Joined June 2008
United States19 Posts
January 31 2011 20:25 GMT
#2992
I need help on a video card that I can get that could comfortably run SC2. My current video card a gforce 8800 GTS always does this clicking sound at the start of a SC2 game or during load, then the screen freezes and I can only wait for about 2 minutes for it to unfreeze and continue with the game. If it happens during the loading no problem, but otherwise if it happens during the start of the game I usually get a disconnect. It happens now more frequently because I recently bought a LCD TV and hooked it up to the other DVI port on the video card (but things were already bad enough before so I need a fix).

I will be upgrading my whole computer in about 2-3 months, but right now I'm just seeking for a quick fix, something that could support my monitor(1280x1024), TV(1920x180) and SC2 (I play SC2 on the monitor only). Right now my mobo would be MSI P965 Platinum (MS-7238). So is there a video card (price range $75-100, using newegg.com) that anyone could recommend that is able to do this without upgrading anything else on my current computer, but at the same time when I do get my new computer I could just remove this video card and put it into the new system.
Fluffy1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States322 Posts
January 31 2011 20:40 GMT
#2993
so instead of just upgrading my current hp with a new motherboard and cpu and ram I was thinking of purchasing this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7200568&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#productresources
and then placing my optical drive and GTS450 into it.

anybody able to give me any positive/negative feedback on this? It looks like an okay deal to me and then I can get a version of win7 to put on it.
"I may be an idiot, but I am not stupid"
Owompa
Profile Joined April 2009
United States85 Posts
January 31 2011 20:57 GMT
#2994
Thinking about buying a computer. Got about $700-$800 I'm willing to spend. I know very very little about assembling a computer, or what components are compatible but I have a couple of questions.

Is now a good time to buy a computer?
Should I wait for SSD/LED screens to go down in price?
What options are there other than buying an OS?
How do I know if things are compatible with eachother?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Bring it!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
January 31 2011 21:15 GMT
#2995
This Sandy Bridge problem is so good for AMD. Now Bulldozer won't be as late as it would have been had the delay not occurred.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
January 31 2011 21:33 GMT
#2996
i5-2500k has been "deactivated" on newegg? I was just about to buy a new computer...
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
January 31 2011 21:36 GMT
#2997
Thank god my board thats coming has 4 SATA3 ports 2 on intels controller and 2 on marvell.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14902 Posts
January 31 2011 21:57 GMT
#2998
On February 01 2011 06:33 PolSC2 wrote:
i5-2500k has been "deactivated" on newegg? I was just about to buy a new computer...


read above
miL.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada93 Posts
January 31 2011 22:59 GMT
#2999
Thanks again for your help Myrmidon, I'll take what you said into account seeing as I now have more time to think about my system's specs as I don't plan on getting a p67 if there are problems with it...
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-31 23:26:37
January 31 2011 23:21 GMT
#3000
LOLZ grats Intel on fucking shit up.

Good thing my Federal tax refund hasn't come in yet or I would been SOLed.

I might just go AMD and go with Bulldozer seeing how bad Intel is doing right now.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
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