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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
On February 08 2011 14:16 decafchicken wrote: You can get a decent monitor for ~150...or 400 if you're on the IPS train. keyboard 5$? 20$? maybe 20-40 for a mouse? WTF are you talking about? At least $80 for the lowest mech keyboard. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20161 Posts
On February 08 2011 15:48 sinani206 wrote: WTF are you talking about? At least $80 for the lowest mech keyboard. I didn't realize they were a necessity these days. Rather spend the extra 75$(if not 120$) on the rig imo. On February 08 2011 15:46 skyR wrote: It's not like IPS panels are expensive anymore. You can get a Dell 23" IPS for under $299. Not everyone shares your view of "expensive". | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On February 08 2011 16:05 decafchicken wrote: I didn't realize they were a necessity these days. Rather spend the extra 75$(if not 120$) on the rig imo. Not everyone shares your view of "expensive". lolz yeah ever since Starcraft 2, mechanical keyboards have become a "must" to a majority of the newer Starcraft players. A mechanical keyboard isn't going to turn a regular player into some gosu, but they are definitely nice, but not mandatory. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On February 08 2011 18:59 Silentness wrote: lolz yeah ever since Starcraft 2, mechanical keyboards have become a "must" to a majority of the newer Starcraft players. A mechanical keyboard isn't going to turn a regular player into some gosu, but they are definitely nice, but not mandatory. See here's how it works. If you wanna play like Flash you gotta have a DT-35. If you wanna play like MVP you gotta have a Filco. Moving to a mechanical keyboard/DT-35 will make your APM go up 100%, improve your decision making, and give you Flash-like map hax. | ||
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holynorth
United States590 Posts
On February 09 2011 02:39 ZeaL. wrote: See here's how it works. If you wanna play like Flash you gotta have a DT-35. If you wanna play like MVP you gotta have a Filco. Moving to a mechanical keyboard/DT-35 will make your APM go up 100%, improve your decision making, and give you Flash-like map hax. Have you ever used one? Mechanical keyboards have other benefits. I type at a constant 120-130 wpm and can peak near 180 with simplified text. I can type at this rate much, much longer on a mechanical keyboard than I can a generic membrane keyboard. This is because of the activation force being so much lower and requiring less force from my fingers. I'm sure I also receive a small boost in wpm but I have done nothing to test this. If you buy a decent mechanical keyboard, it should last you as long as you'll take care of it. People need to stop hating on the mechanical keyboards just because they can't justify spending the money for one (not aim at you, but in general). | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
Just saying that you don't HAVE to have a mechanical keyboard to do well in SC2. | ||
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 09 2011 07:49 bonedOUT wrote: I am quite a noob when it comes to building a computer so i have a few questions. Do computer parts like motherboard and CPU need to be compatible or can you put anything together? If they do need to be compatible, how do you know whether it is compatible or not? What other information do I need to know when I am searching for parts? I know that I should try to get enough wattage for power supply but is there anything else that I am missing? Thanks! There is a CPU socket on the motherboard with a certain pin layout and number of pins. The processor must be made for this socket in order for it to fit into the motherboard. Here is an example: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215 LGA 1156 is the socket. Everything else in the product name I'm not going to explain unless you want me to. You need a LGA 1156 motherboard for this to work (more commonly known as P55 cause that's the chipset). It'll say so on the motherboard: MSI P55-CD53 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130240 Intel came out with a new socket, the LGA 1155. Do not make the mistake of buying a 1155 processor and putting it in a 1156 motherboard or vice versa. THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. On the AMD side of things, it's easy for a newbie to understand as the processors will have "Socket AM__" in its name. All the latest offerings from both Intel and AMD use DDR3 ram. You cannot interchange DDR2 and DDR3 so do not make the mistake of buying DDR2 instead of DDR3. For the power supply, you are looking at the amperage on the 12v rail(s). You want a good one so look at www.jonnyguru.com for reviews if in doubt. You usually can't go wrong by selecting a Seasonic, Corsair, XFX, or Antec power supply though. Sata 2 (3Gbit/s) and Sata 3 (6Gbit/s) are interchangeable. Graphics card will fit in a PCI-E x16 slot which most motherboards will have. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
If you want help with your build, go back and read the OP of this thread and then answer the questions in the first spoiler. GL! | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? around $700-800 AUS What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Just gaming, 90% sc2. What is your upgrade cycle? 1-2 years. When do you plan on building it? within the next 2 months. Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Any advice? I am happy to do something shifty, otherwise, yes. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Probably not at that price range. Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere in Australia, http://www.pccasegear.com/ as an idea for pricing and a place i may get some from. edit - have all peripherals, added spoiler tag for less space. Thanks to anyone who can help. | ||
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
My budget is around 800 USD What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? I want to play starcraft 2 on the lowest settings and possibly stream it at the same time. I also hope that the computer could be able to play Diablo 3 at high settings but I don’t think the specifications for Diablo 3 out is yet so I know it is guesswork atm. What is your upgrade cycle? I am not intending on upgrading the computer so I don’t mind spending a little more right now. I think I may want the i5 2500k CPU When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible Do you plan on overclocking? Yes I am looking to overclocking Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? I am in the US so possibly newegg or tigerdirect or somewhere. Wherever I can find the lowest prices so I am planning on doing a little research on the parts that you guys suggest. A question I have: how much does the motherboard matter? I see that there are different prices for motherboards and I don’t know if it makes a big difference for things like overclocking and stuff like that. Thanks a lot for the help guys! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On February 10 2011 08:49 Jayzo wrote: can anyone give me a hand with the following outline? If its not possible for the price, thats fine, just let me know + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? around $700-800 AUS What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Just gaming, 90% sc2. What is your upgrade cycle? 1-2 years. When do you plan on building it? within the next 2 months. Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Any advice? I am happy to do something shifty, otherwise, yes. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Probably not at that price range. Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere in Australia, http://www.pccasegear.com/ as an idea for pricing and a place i may get some from. edit - have all peripherals, added spoiler tag for less space. Thanks to anyone who can help. Thread jump! This is about what you want to play SC2 on ultra without problem. The motherboard is a little cheap (microATX, so missing connectivity options you're probably not going to use), but at least pre-tax and shipping, that's in budget. Nothing else is really skimping. Intel Core i5-2400 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=16402 AsRock H67M http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16447 G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13930 HIS Radeon HD 6850 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1163&products_id=15914 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=15934 Samsung CD/DVD-RW http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=13068 Corsair CX430 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=16471 Antec One Hundred http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=16318 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Here's a build that comes out to $840 ASUS Radeon HD6850 1GB $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121419 Coolermaster 690ii Basic $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215 GSkill Ripjaws X PC3-10666 2x2GB $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231425 Core i5 2500k $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Asrock P67 Extreme4 ~$130 Seasonic M12II 520W $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093 Some DVD Burner $20 Higher priced motherboards just come with more features, more ports, more power phases, etc. Generally, unless you know exactly what you want, you do not need to spend more than $150 on a motherboard. If you up your budget to $900, you can get a MSI GTX 560 1GB Hawk and overclock it to perform on par with the GTX 570. | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:10 Myrmidon wrote: Thread jump! This is about what you want to play SC2 on ultra without problem. The motherboard is a little cheap (microATX, so missing connectivity options you're probably not going to use), but at least pre-tax and shipping, that's in budget. Nothing else is really skimping. Intel Core i5-2400 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=16402 AsRock H67M http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16447 G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13930 HIS Radeon HD 6850 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1163&products_id=15914 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=15934 Samsung CD/DVD-RW http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=13068 Corsair CX430 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=16471 Antec One Hundred http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=16318 Thanks man! does anyone have any critiques of this build? it all seems pretty solid to me. Is there a good resource anywhere for putting it all together? | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On February 10 2011 09:55 Jayzo wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 10 2011 09:10 Myrmidon wrote: Thread jump! This is about what you want to play SC2 on ultra without problem. The motherboard is a little cheap (microATX, so missing connectivity options you're probably not going to use), but at least pre-tax and shipping, that's in budget. Nothing else is really skimping. Intel Core i5-2400 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=16402 AsRock H67M http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16447 G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=13930 HIS Radeon HD 6850 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1163&products_id=15914 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=15934 Samsung CD/DVD-RW http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=13068 Corsair CX430 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=16471 Antec One Hundred http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=16318 Thanks man! does anyone have any critiques of this build? it all seems pretty solid to me. Is there a good resource anywhere for putting it all together? Based on whatever else you might need to use the computer for, you might change little things (blu ray drive, bigger HDD). But as a straight up mid-budget gaming PC, this one would be hard to beat. The parts are very well balanced with each other, so it will be difficult to upgrade one thing and get better performance. | ||
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
What is your budget? $1500. If you think I'm already spending this much may as well get a part that's a little bit better, I'm willing to go up a little. What is your resolution? I currently do not have a monitor, so will be using my budget towards that as well. I appreciate all monitor recommendations. What are you using it for? Starcraft 2 gaming, watching movies/youtube videos. Ideally I want the youtube videos/movies to load really fast, and I want starcraft 2 to run with no lag. I also want to be able to do multiple things at once without my computer lagging. Also eventual streaming probably. What is your upgrade cycle? Longer upgrade cycle, probably. When do you plan on building it? I plan on building it within the next month. Do you plan on overclocking? I do plan on overclocking. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't know, should I? Where are you buying your parts from? The internet, probably newegg? Or the place with the best deals. Thanks for the help! Also if anyone has any chair recommendations or desk recommendations I would appreciate those as well. Also, I have a 32" samsung TV that I plan on using as a second monitor. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
MSI GTX 560 1GB Hawk $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 GSkill Ripjaws X PC3-10666 2x4GB $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 Core i5 2500k $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 OCZ Vertex 2 60GB $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550 Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB (or pick a sizable storage harddrive to your liking) $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490 Asrock P67 Extreme4 ~$130 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Seasonic M12II 520W $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 I highly recommend waiting until Sandybridge is rereleased into the market. Pick a case around $100-$200 to your liking (I'd recommend something from Lian Li, Silverstone, or Coolermaster) and add in a DVD burner for $20. This should put the build at a total of ~$1200 before shipping which leaves you $300 for a monitor. If you think 60gb is too small to be used as a boot / application drive, you can use another $100 to increase it to an 120gb. | ||
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
On February 10 2011 12:35 skyR wrote: @Axeltoss I highly recommend waiting until Sandybridge is rereleased into the market. When will this happen do you think? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Sometime in April. | ||
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