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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 10 2011 14:01 bonedOUT wrote: When do you need a full tower case over a mid tower case? For a video card like the ASUS Radeon HD6850, would you need full tower case or do most mid tower cases suffice|? When you are going to use more than eight harddrives or doing CrossfireX / SLI with 3-4 graphic cards. The majority, if not all mid tower cases will fit a 6850. You don't have to worry about it not fitting as its a rather short card (only 9.5 inches in length). Most modern mid towers will have room for 11" long cards. | ||
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Gonff
United States686 Posts
On February 10 2011 14:01 bonedOUT wrote: When do you need a full tower case over a mid tower case? For a video card like the ASUS Radeon HD6850, would you need full tower case or do most mid tower cases suffice|? My single Radeon HD6870 fits easily in my Lian Li pc-k62 midtower case. Based on my limited experience, I think most of the better-quality, newish mid-towers are spacious enough to accommodate today's larger gpus. I'm pretty sure you'll only need a full tower if you're mounting a monster aftermarket HSF and several bulky gpus. You could get a full tower just to have better airflow in a roomier case, but why burn the extra money / desk space when a decent mid-tower should give you all the airflow you need? | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On February 10 2011 14:11 skyR wrote: When you are going to use more than eight harddrives or doing CrossfireX / SLI with 3-4 graphic cards. The majority, if not all mid tower cases will fit a 6850. You don't have to worry about it not fitting as its a rather short card (only 9.5 inches in length). Most modern mid towers will have room for 11" long cards. lolz yeah I got a Cooler Master HAF 932 (Full tower) and I only have a AMD Radeon 6950 2 GB version, 1 SSD drive, and a motherboard that doesn't even have SLI/Crossfire capability so I pretty much just bought a big ass case for looks/better airflow. | ||
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 11 2011 07:31 bonedOUT wrote: hey guys thanks for all the recent help! I just had one more question. I did some research on ram and know that most recent motherboards require DDR3 ram, but are certain types of ram better or faster than others? Like for these number in ram: 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666). I have no idea what the 1333 or the PC3 10666 is. How do you interpret these numbers? If i am wrong about the ddr3 thing as the only thing to look for when looking at compatibility, please let me know! Thanks! Yes, that's correct. All the newer motherboards require DDR3. DDR2 and DDR3 are not interchangeable. The numbers just indicates how fast the memory is. 1333MHz is just another way of saying PC3-10666. PC3 refers to the type of memory which in this case is DDR3. The number after PC3 refers to the peak transfer rate in MB/s which is 10666 MB/s. Translate this speed into effective MHz, you get 1333MHz (10666 / 8 = 1333). The speed of RAM really doesn't matter if you are just building a gaming computer. | ||
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Toobz
United States88 Posts
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bonedOUT
United States140 Posts
I found a deal for the XFX Radeon HD 6870 1 GB DDR5 Graphics Card HD687AZNFC at amazon right now for 179.99 after rebate and it seems like a good price. The question I have is: is there lower priced card that can be overclocked to reach performances of 200 dollar video cards? I am not sure of how fast video card prices drop so I am considering getting a card and overclocking it and then replacing it in the future if I need it. another thing to consider is that I am probably going to wait till april to purchase SB processor and mb so should i hold off on buying a video card? .Thanks for all the help guys :D | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The best overclockers are definitely the MSI GTX 460 1GB Hawk @ $200 and GTX 560 Hawk @ $250. The MSI GTX 460 Hawk has been on sale at Newegg for $150 quite a few times in the last 4 months. | ||
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Neosta2
China117 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Rom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433 Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236100 Graphics Card (two of these): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103085 Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131655 Cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103894 | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On February 11 2011 12:09 skyR wrote: Any video card can be overclocked. There is no unlocked or locked versions like there is with processors. However, not every video card can have its voltage altered. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On February 11 2011 12:01 bonedOUT wrote: i have a question regarding GPU and overclocking. I am not sure which cards are able to overclock and what is the best valued card at the moment to overclock. I found a deal for the XFX Radeon HD 6870 1 GB DDR5 Graphics Card HD687AZNFC at amazon right now for 179.99 after rebate and it seems like a good price. The question I have is: is there lower priced card that can be overclocked to reach performances of 200 dollar video cards? I am not sure of how fast video card prices drop so I am considering getting a card and overclocking it and then replacing it in the future if I need it. another thing to consider is that I am probably going to wait till april to purchase SB processor and mb so should i hold off on buying a video card? .Thanks for all the help guys :D yes, always wait for things like gpu's or cpu's where the market evolves quickly things like power supplies, HD's (maybe not ssd's), cases, ram (especially now cause it's cheap) should be purchased when you find good deals | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=140250 The revision is already close to shipping, in terms of numbers and stock it's more like 3-4 weeks away so right on late feb early march like intel initially said. | ||
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Axeltoss
United States283 Posts
Is there any reason you didn't suggest a motherboard? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 12 2011 05:06 Axeltoss wrote: Is there any reason you didn't suggest a motherboard? I did suggest one, the Asrock P67 Extreme4. I can't link to a deactivated item without knowing the item id. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On February 11 2011 14:51 Neosta2 wrote: Please take a look at this build. Suggestions welcome. specially on the cpu and motherboard + Show Spoiler + Rom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433 Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236100 Graphics Card (two of these): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103085 Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131655 Cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103894 Everything seems OK in terms of compatability. Of course you'll need a hefty PSU and a case with good airflow for these components. And be prepared for a noisy setup in general I suppose... If you're interested in same performance or better for same money or less, go for 4GB of RAM, wait for sandy bridge to re-release, and go with a single GPU setup. There's not much to gain from crossfire on a single 1080P monitor... | ||
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Impulsa
United States122 Posts
What is your budget? $1500-1600 What is your resolution? 1440x900 or 1920x1080 i'm using my geforce gts 250 if the card cannot handle the 1920x1080 I can use my old monitor (1440x900) What are you using it for? Mostly gaming. What is your upgrade cycle? Every 4 years? When do you plan on building it? In a month or so. Do you plan on overclocking? I don't think I need to oc. Do you need an Operating System? I have windows 7. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? Fry's, Amazon or Newegg. Currently I have this as a setup. I'm not sure what motherboard to get. RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226103&cm_re=lga_1155_ram-_-20-226-103-_-Product Heatsink : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057&cm_re=lga_1155-_-35-103-057-_-Product Harddrive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Power supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 CD Drive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135201 CPU Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139001 CPU : http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-2600K-Processor-Socket-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXSA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1297547916&sr=8-4 I plan on using my geforce gts 250 for a while. Feel free to give me some suggestions to lower the cost if you want. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Can you find a LGA 1155 motherboard anywhere? Most any P67 mobo should do fine, unless you're pushing overclocks very very high. btw any CPU cooler that fits LGA 1156 also works on 1155, so there are a lot of options. I don't keep up with coolers, so there may or may not be a better value. At first glance though, dual 92mm fans sounds like it might be relatively loud. Expensive RAM is mostly pointless, so I think you'd be fine on any $40 1333 MHz CL9 kit. Corsair TX650 is outdated and overpriced. You don't need over 500W anyway, unless you're upgrading your GPU to a GTX 580 and then running some voltage bumped insane overclocks. But if you insist on a 650W unit, the Antec Truepower New 650W is much better (better efficiency, much better ripple, better transient response IIRC, semi-modular) and also cheaper. I'd suggest other cheaper units, but I'm not sure about cable lengths on those for installing in a full tower case. I think you know the case is excessively expensive, but...what do you need a full tower for when you've got a single GTS 250? Most full tower cases are really for holding large radiators for watercooling setups, since otherwise all that space isn't being used for much of anything. But you have a lower-end aftermarket CPU air cooler, so I'm confused. If you want top air cooling performance in a large tower case to cool some SLI GTX 580 setup or something like that, Silverstone RV02 or FT02 is the way to go, and those are cheaper than the 800D. | ||
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Impulsa
United States122 Posts
On February 13 2011 07:24 Myrmidon wrote: i7-2600k is a whole lot more expensive than i5-2500k for just hyperthreading and 2 more MB L3 cache. It's not worth the price difference unless your budget is very flexible and the hyperthreading will actually help you in what you're running (read: not games or most programs). It's mostly people running heavy video rendering, encoding, CAD, virtual machines, etc. that would want a i7-2600k over an i5-2500k. And most of those people want more than 4GB of RAM, so I assume that's not you. Can you find a LGA 1155 motherboard anywhere? Most any P67 mobo should do fine, unless you're pushing overclocks very very high. btw any CPU cooler that fits LGA 1156 also works on 1155, so there are a lot of options. I don't keep up with coolers, so there may or may not be a better value. At first glance though, dual 92mm fans sounds like it might be relatively loud. Expensive RAM is mostly pointless, so I think you'd be fine on any $40 1333 MHz CL9 kit. Corsair TX650 is outdated and overpriced. You don't need over 500W anyway, unless you're upgrading your GPU to a GTX 580 and then running some voltage bumped insane overclocks. But if you insist on a 650W unit, the Antec Truepower New 650W is much better (better efficiency, much better ripple, better transient response IIRC, semi-modular) and also cheaper. I'd suggest other cheaper units, but I'm not sure about cable lengths on those for installing in a full tower case. I think you know the case is excessively expensive, but...what do you need a full tower for when you've got a single GTS 250? Most full tower cases are really for holding large radiators for watercooling setups, since otherwise all that space isn't being used for much of anything. But you have a lower-end aftermarket CPU air cooler, so I'm confused. If you want top air cooling performance in a large tower case to cool some SLI GTX 580 setup or something like that, Silverstone RV02 or FT02 is the way to go, and those are cheaper than the 800D. hmm, I see. I'll probably go with watercooling then, but also I plan on intending to upgrade my video card soon anyways. do you think these ram will do fine? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274 | ||
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