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PolSC2
United States634 Posts
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Womwomwom
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Oh ok then guess I'll get standard.. What does SE stand for? The GTX460 SE (Second Edition? Fuck NV its basically marketing shit to fool people) is essentially the gimped version of the GTX460 1GB. That being said, its not awful it does pretty well to run low/medium end up but the GTX460 1GB is so cheap anyway so why would you even buy it? Yup I was planing on 2500k but my cousin told me the 2600k was a lot easier to overclock on. That's one of the reasons. Even if it did overclock better, its not worth the $100 premium if you can't use 8 threads. There's only so much performance you can gain with clockspeed before the limitations of the processor becomes apparent. Mm well I figure the convenience of the 1TB hard drive is worth the... $20 or so.. I could also get a SpinpointF3. Spinpoint better? Samsung F3 Spinpoint is the cheapest 1TB drive that doesn't suck balls. Caviar Blacks are way too expensive in Australia. what should I use? Just get a DVD drive, its $25. Or rip it out of another computer doesn't matter optical media is p. much dead anyway but its handy to have around. I actually like your original build, its actually pretty much fine. Just one thing: You only need a good 400-500w power supply to power a system with a single, two PCIe plug GPU. I'd get the Antec Earthwatts since they're are dirt cheap in Australia and they're pretty good. Lian Li cases are 'backwards', meaning you install the motherboard on the left side of the case instead of the right. It's all backwards, meaning the GPU faces up instead of down, and the airflow is even reversed. I don't think it's the best idea to go Lian Li for the first computer you build - but then again, it is incredibly easy to build a computer. Still, Lian Li cases are horrible values - they are amazing cases, but they are only going to be amazing if you're a huge overclocker and really know what you are doing, and scores on a benchmark are important to you. No they're not, only a handful of Lian Li cases are like that...one of the few I can think of is the tiny A05 which you can't even get in Australia. The Lancool K62 is a standard ATX cases and its a dream to work in because the tool less features, especially the metal friction clamps for the PCI devices, don't suck balls. That being said, I agree with you that Lian Li cases are horrible value. All of them are use roughly the same ideas and thus their whole lineup is obsolete from an efficient air cooling viewpoint or contain the same baffling design choices. The bottom PSU intake grill on all of their cases actually obstructs airflow because its facing the wrong way, a few older models have very difficult to access dust filters because the front bezel is mounted with screws, the hard drive mounting system on all of them are really disappointing outside of an ease of use viewpoint, and the sound reduction measures they use is essentially snake oil. They're easy to work in and look seriously fantastic but that's about it. | ||
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Agu666
43 Posts
Currently running: Single core AMD Athlon 3800+ 4 gb of ram GF 8800GT 512mb 1024x768 or 1280x1024 Which AMD cpu would be most reasonable, considering cost and performance and my current set up. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
Mobo - ASUS P8P67 CPU - Intel® Core™ i7-2600 (im aware its overkill, but meh not to expensive atm) MEM - Corsair 4 GB DDR3-1600 Kit (Retail, CMX4GX3M2A1600C8, XMS) SSD - OCZ OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G Now i have 2 questions. 1.) My current GFX is the ZOTAC GeForce GTX 295, it scores great in benchmarks, but not that great for most games (It didn't cost me anything, as it was a gift from a previous sponsor). Will this card hold my system back, or is it wise to lets say get a GTX470 orso. 2.) Any suggestions for a reliable, yet not to loud cooler? atm i have a noctua cooler, and it cools great, but i imagine hurricane katherina sounded something like this..... My goal is to play games, SC2, WoW, Rift and for the rest just mess around. Only notable thing maybe important for my system is i regularly run 3 screens, 2x 24" monitor + streaming video from my PC on 40" TV. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You need to provide your motherboard model for us to suggest processors. Judging from your old processor, you probably have an AM2 board so your options are limited. The best processor you could get for AM2 would be an Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @Mithriel The GTX 295 is still a good card so I'd keep it for now. But like you said yourself, it'll hold you back if the games you play does not utilize SLI or have poor driver support. Noctua heatsinks are known to be one of the quietest ones around. Are you sure its not something else in your case? =\ | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
And yeh im confident its my CPU cooler atm, because i kinda bought it because it was insanely good at cooling, and was willing to have it a bit more noisy. Tho now i'd go for a bit more silent setup edit: Not sure if the i7 2600 actually needs another cooler, maybe the boxed one is fine? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Have you tried using the low voltage adapters for your Noctua fans? | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
I didn't use any low settings atm for CPU cooler, everything was just cool, cooler , coolest for current rig | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
He has (reusing from last pc) a small size case, win xp, moniter/mouse/keyboard. He wants to be able to surf the web and run solidworks well. He will just keep the old drive for backup and wants a new one, maybe 500GB? Apparently the models in solidworks take a lot of space. The rest should be 4 GB of ram(2x2) and a 400-500W psu I think? Also I need to find a pair of cheap drives that can read/write because he wants to write disk to disk and doesn't want to copy to th hard drive. I don't know what to do about the motherboard/processor. I think he would rather go with a cheaper AMD than a comparable Intel. He wants a quad core processor don't know if he really needs needs one, and I don't know how good a graphics card he needs for solidworks. Oh and he wants to keep win XP because his version of solidworks is for XP. Can anyone give me a rough estimation of what I need? I am building to meet those needs rather than to a price, so this is a bit more difficult. All he will tell me is "not a high end pc, but also nothing too cheap"... I am guessing he wants to spend ~$500. Thanks for your help again | ||
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Agu666
43 Posts
On February 17 2011 05:38 skyR wrote: @Agu666 You need to provide your motherboard model for us to suggest processors. Judging from your old processor, you probably have an AM2 board so your options are limited. The best processor you could get for AM2 would be an Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @Mithriel The GTX 295 is still a good card so I'd keep it for now. But like you said yourself, it'll hold you back if the games you play does not utilize SLI or have poor driver support. Noctua heatsinks are known to be one of the quietest ones around. Are you sure its not something else in your case? =\ It's AM2+ motherboard Asus M3A78-VM. Afaik it can support all newer CPU's after bios update. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
intel already started to ship out their fixed cougarpoint chipset right? also i've read that u could turn a AMD 6950 into 6970 gpu by doing something on its bios, is that still true? | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On February 14 2011 17:47 bonedOUT wrote: I am having second thoughts on my build and could use some advice. I am planning on getting the i5 2500k along with the msi gtx 460 hawk. I want to use this computer for sc2 low settings and streaming at the same time while wanting to play diablo3 smoothly ( i dont think the specs for the game are out yet but i am hoping it isnt too high to play) Am overkilling it in terms of the parts I am wanting to get? FIrst tiem building a PC and its hard not to want the newest thing (new sandy bridge cpu) but now I realize I might not need it. If you dont think I need it, please suggest a build that would suffice for my needs. I really appreciate all the help I have been getting from this thread! Thanks guys. Are you kidding? You're going to be able to run Starcraft on ULTRA everything without breaking a sweat. My comp has a similar setup (5770 instead of the gtx 460) and I have everything on ultra with my processor at...20% of capacity. So if you wanted to save money, and only want to run on low, you don't have to upgrade your hardware at all. ...Ultra settings are kinda cool though.  | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
If $100 really isn't that much to you, then yeah, go with the i7-2600k. But honestly, that $100 is better spent elsewhere...like...a solid state drive! :D Otherwise, I suppose if you run SETI@home or something like that, your computer will use the hyper threading and be able to work on 8 projects at once instead of just 4. That'd be kinda cool? Also, as far as what SE stands for, I think it stands for "slow edition." No joke. Don't quote me on that though. :D | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On February 16 2011 17:39 Agu666 wrote: I've really prolonged updating my CPU so it is time. I am looking for a budget cpu, preferably around $70. I am somewhat a sunday gamer and main games would be: SC2, DoW2:Retribution, some new MMO's. Currently running: Single core AMD Athlon 3800+ 4 gb of ram GF 8800GT 512mb 1024x768 or 1280x1024 Which AMD cpu would be most reasonable, considering cost and performance and my current set up. ...erm...$70? uh...i don't know if you can do that much with only $70. even a Phenom II X2 555 is like $90. Upgrading your processor is definitely your best bet though. Starcraft 2 is very CPU demanding and works like 4x better on a dual core system than a single core system. | ||
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PolSC2
United States634 Posts
On February 18 2011 00:08 ensign_lee wrote: ...erm...$70? uh...i don't know if you can do that much with only $70. even a Phenom II X2 555 is like $90. Upgrading your processor is definitely your best bet though. Starcraft 2 is very CPU demanding and works like 4x better on a dual core system than a single core system. He meant $700. -_- | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On February 17 2011 05:46 Mithriel wrote: Thanks!1 And yeh im confident its my CPU cooler atm, because i kinda bought it because it was insanely good at cooling, and was willing to have it a bit more noisy. Tho now i'd go for a bit more silent setup edit: Not sure if the i7 2600 actually needs another cooler, maybe the boxed one is fine? I have this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&Tpk=coolermaster 212 It is really quiet. Quiet enough that I have it in my bedroom and don't notice when it's on. and it cools really well. I run my i5-2500k at 100% constantly doing seti@home, folding@home type stuff and I rarely break 55 celcius. Only problem is that it's pretty damn big. It doesn't clear my case by like 1.5cm. GRAWR, so I'm running an open case at the moment. I've actually been thinking of changing to a smaller heat sink because I like the look of my case and don't want to leave the door off. You could get mine perhaps? :D PM me if interested, though to be honest, this cooler is so cheap you might not want to do that anyway lol. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
On February 18 2011 00:08 ensign_lee wrote: ...erm...$70? uh...i don't know if you can do that much with only $70. even a Phenom II X2 555 is like $90. Upgrading your processor is definitely your best bet though. Starcraft 2 is very CPU demanding and works like 4x better on a dual core system than a single core system. Actually, now that I think about it some more, you could probably troll craigslist to see if someone is selling parts from their old systems. I just upgraded my comp and so I have parts from my old comp lying around. It was an AMD 2400+ 2.4Ghz dual core, and it would be an improvement over your one single-core I think. Assuming your budget really was $70 and not $700, you could probably find someone like me somewhere in your city willing to sell you their old mobo + CPU + DDR2 RAM. I know for my part at least, they're just sitting in the corner of my room, since I'd have to buy a new case, hard drive, and optical drive to actually make it a functional computer again. I guess PM me if you want to just buy that stuff from me. :D Assuming your budget was closer to $700 and you wanted to spend the least money possible then you can either go with the Phenom II X2 555(there's not much benefit to to a quad core vs. a dual core for just Starcraft) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103846&cm_re=amd_phenom_II_x2-_-19-103-846-_-Product, choose a simple mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131647 and go. That would only cost you about ~$200ish? You might have to spend anohter $40 or so on DDR3 RAM if you don't already have it, but yeah - that makes it ~$250ish? If you wanted something closer to your actual budget (read more expensive than the super budget build above), then hell, you can probably re-use your hard drive and case and all of that and do what I did: i5-2500k for $230 (or $200 at microcenter) http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 Gigabyte P67A-UD3 mobo (sorry no link. all P67's have been pulled because of the stupid SATA recall and won't be avaible until...april?) and just look for some good deasl on DDR3 RAM (I got 8GB for like $50. Probably overkill, but at $25 / 4GB I wasn't being picky). That prices out to about $400, which is well underneath your budget of $700. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On February 17 2011 20:18 Shizuru~ wrote: Guys, when will they be selling LGA 1155 socket MOBO again? intel already started to ship out their fixed cougarpoint chipset right? also i've read that u could turn a AMD 6950 into 6970 gpu by doing something on its bios, is that still true? Yes, Intel has begun shipment of the B3 steppings. Motherboard manufacturers still have to put them on the motherboards though. My guess is that they should trickle back into the retail channel in mid-late March. Yes, you can just flash a 6950 to a 6970. | ||
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