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You don't need high-end stuff. You're not doing a high-end application. 1920x1080 gaming just isn't that hard, so quality stuff will do you with no loss of performance. Now if you were gaming across three moniotors, with a 5760x1080 (or bigger) resolution, then you can talk about making sure to get high-end stuff.
Note the build below is in a standard ATX-sized case, which should be pretty easy to put together youself, assuming you can read directions and plug pegs into similarly-shaped holes. You can shrink things down if that was important to you, it's just a bit harder in terms of selecting components/working in the case.
This will be superior to that ibuypower thingymerbob, allow you to overclock a bit, and play 1920x1080 games on max:
Monitor: ASUS MX239H ($230)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REG&Q=&A=details&O=productlist&sku=917345
About as nice a standard 23" 1920x1080 monitor you can find. If you desire to spend more than what I list here, which is a pretty luxury setup, this is where you'd do it, going to a 27" 2560x1440 monitor or something like that.
CPU i5-3570k ($220)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Don't let "but 7 is higher than 5!" confuse you. The advantage of the i7, hyperthreading, is not useful for games. And when I say not useful, I don't mean the i5 is almost as good. I mean performance is exactly the same.
Mobo: Gigabyte z77x-ud3h ($140)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
You could actually go with a somewhat cheaper offering without really losing anything, but we're sticking to guaranteed quality here.
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Gaia ($20)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082&Tpk=xigmatek gaia&IsVirtualParent=1
Good for a nice moderate overclock, nothing hardcore. Note that "water" is not inherently better than air coolers. Both are blowing air over metal bits to cool them. If you want something beefier than the Gaia, look to an HR-02 Macho on amazon.
Video Card: Gigabyte 7970 ($400)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125413
Overkill, but you wanted games on max. Also, you can overclock it if you want, unlike the 680.
RAM: 2x4gb G.Skill RAM ($57)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G.Skill
RAM is like hard drive space: not enough is a disaster, but more than enough is useless. 2x4gb is the standard "more than enough, but not going crazy" amount.
Case: Fractal Design R4 ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75050&vpn=FD-CA-DEF-R4-WH&manufacture=Fractal Design&promoid=1334
Quality case with sound dampening. This is the white version. Also comes in black, grey & with or without window.
PSU: XFX Core 650w ($83)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1334
Low-wattage power supply selection isn't great right now. So just for kicks I threw in a beefy quality unit that will let you throw a second graphics card into your system if you're ever crazy enough to develop the inclination. Or have a good enough monitor setup. Another place you can save $30 (getting the 450w version).
SSD: Samsung 840 250gb ($160)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&vpn=MZ-7TD250BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1334
64gb isn't big enough to put anything but the OS on, really. You should put your most commonly used programs here. 120gb is getting to be roughly standard for a decent but cheapish SSD, but I'm being careless with your budget, so we went big. 250gb should fit most if not all of your programs, helping them load zoom-zoom fast.
HDD: Seagate 2tb ($90)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1334
Similar reasoning led to lots & lots of storage space.
DVD-burner. $(18)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256
Yay?
OS: Windows 7 64-bit OEM ($98)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1334
I have a pathological hatred of Windows 8, but if you are free of my biases, you can get windows 8 for $10 less.
Total: $1606, including shipping, but not taxes. Monitor included, which was not the case for the ibuypower deal. Also, all the components are as good or better for your purposes. You can also reduce the price by a few hundred if you want (without cutting muscle) by lowering storage space, getting a less luxury motherboard, an appropriately watt-ed PSU, a non-sound dampening case, that sort of thing.
Edit: Synpah beat me to it. You'll notice we went for very similar builds. The (significant) differences: Synpah went with a much more cost-efficient GPU than I recommended. His will max most games on 1920x1080, mine will max virtually all. On the other hand, his is $200 less and will perform the same except in those rare very graphically demanding games, which will still run on "very high" for 1920x1080 with the 660 Synpah recommended, just not "maxxxx settings." I picked the same SSD model, but double the size. The monitor I suggested was slightly larger, slightly higher quality, more expensive. I didn't include a keyboard. The differences above account for most of the price difference.
Edit 2: Don't forget to thank your e-sports sponsors!
Asus: various sponsorships
Intel: various (but dwindling?) sponsorships
Gigabyte: Gigabyte LAN & occasional weekly cups
Samsung: WCG
Newegg itself: team Complexity
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I literally waited 4 hours for someone to build a list for him.
Also Capture Card.
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*shrug* I guess I read his thread three hours after he posted. And I don't think you linked a capture card if you intended to post one.
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I was thinking about it, but I was going to wait until he complained about not having an i7. That way I could say i5+Capture Card > i7 for streaming and the cost is about the same.
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I literally waited 4 hours for someone to build a list for him I'm not entirely comfortable doing that, maybe for a random really approximate build, i went on pcpartpicker twice and made like 80% of a build and then just trashed it, not really sure why.. No idea why i got made blue over several other people
MisterFred's build is excellent, with some luxury's (250gb SSD, some price bumps for quality) though i would definitely take the hr-02 macho regardless (lower temps with light overclock are never bad, its noise to cooling ratio will be far far better than the gaia, allows for higher overclocks)
Monitor and windows in budget, 250gb ssd, good quality parts etc coming to $1.6k total, it's really solid, I mean thats ~$1100 before monitor, windows and SSD. + Show Spoiler +"Obtaining" windows in other ways is often a good option
Two upgrades i would consider if you want to throw money would be the 7970 to a ghz edition and the 3570k to a 3770k. You'd notice the slight increase in GPU power in pretty much anything GPU bound if you are looking at framerates, but the i5 to i7 upgrade, outside of Crysis 3 (one of the very few games which benefits from hyperthreading) you probably would not notice the difference.
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On April 03 2013 01:37 Cyro wrote: I'm not entirely comfortable doing that, maybe for a random really approximate build, i went on pcpartpicker twice and made like 80% of a build and then just trashed it, not really sure why.. No idea why i got made blue over several other people
It's hard to care. 90% of builds are just the same components (brands withheld). You know you have the exact same build a few pages back and all you are doing is updating the prices.
It's why I rarely post builds anymore. There is nothing to be discovered.
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What capture card were you going to list? That's one part I where I never know which to recommend. Luckily it doesn't come up much.
And while we're passing out compliments, Synpah's build is also really good.
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Capture cards have questionable performance though it's not well documented how much they help and in what ways.
Destiny gave a lot of praise for the avermedia live gamer HD (which is more high end than what you are offering) but even still lost a ton of FPS with it, and eventually stopped using it AFAIK, claiming his framerates were better in OBS using software instead of hardware capture.. I have no idea what hardware he is using now, but his game performance while streaming is notably lower than mine
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Thanks for the help guys!
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im thinking of building a new pc and was wondering if this is ok or not (would like it if you could rate overall out of 100 ^^)
CM Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX Gaming Computer Case or corsair obsidian 550d
stuck between these two cases, leaning towards obsidian 550d because it looks cooler haha
what are your opinions on these two cases as well as other cases?
i5-3570k -- $190 @ microcenter
Hyper 212 EVO -- $30 @ microcenter
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $135 @ microcenter
Corsair Vengeance Series 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules) -- $65 @ microcenter
EVGA GTX 660 – $199 microcenter
XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply -- $100 newegg
Samsung 840 250GB -- $171 newegg
WESTERN DIGITAL WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" internal hard drive
this is just from my own computer :D
no harsh comments please
and thanks for reading and taking the time to review XD
and if there is anything i am missing, then please let me know
THANK YOU!
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On April 03 2013 08:22 azngamer828 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +im thinking of building a new pc and was wondering if this is ok or not (would like it if you could rate overall out of 100 ^^)
CM Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX Gaming Computer Case or corsair obsidian 550d
stuck between these two cases, leaning towards obsidian 550d because it looks cooler haha
what are your opinions on these two cases as well as other cases?
i5-3570k -- $190 @ microcenter
Hyper 212 EVO -- $30 @ microcenter
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $135 @ microcenter
Corsair Vengeance Series 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules) -- $65 @ microcenter
EVGA GTX 660 – $199 microcenter
XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply -- $100 newegg
Samsung 840 250GB -- $171 newegg
WESTERN DIGITAL WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" internal hard drive
this is just from my own computer :D
no harsh comments please
and thanks for reading and taking the time to review XD
and if there is anything i am missing, then please let me know
THANK YOU!
Microcenter has 3570k + motherboard combo. The Z77 Extreme4 when purchased with the 3570k at Microcenter is like $70.
Enforcer isn't in the same category as the 550D? It's cheaper and is not sound dampening, not practically a good choice at $80 unless you like its aesthetics. 550D is a nice case but does have a few minor flaws and is a bit expensive due to it being Corsair and it having five year warranty. Fractal Design Define R4 can be found for about $90 sometimes, better than the 550D.
$252 for like exact same thing (Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb and GTX 660): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1247439
You don't need a 650w unit and even if you did, there are much better options at $100. A Rosewill Capstone 450 is plenty for such a configuration and if you purchase before the end of today, you can purchase the 650w variant for $75 more with promo code. Significantly better than the XFX Core Edition.
Oh, I'd give it a 75 out of 100.
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On April 03 2013 08:37 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 08:22 azngamer828 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +im thinking of building a new pc and was wondering if this is ok or not (would like it if you could rate overall out of 100 ^^)
CM Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX Gaming Computer Case or corsair obsidian 550d
stuck between these two cases, leaning towards obsidian 550d because it looks cooler haha
what are your opinions on these two cases as well as other cases?
i5-3570k -- $190 @ microcenter
Hyper 212 EVO -- $30 @ microcenter
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $135 @ microcenter
Corsair Vengeance Series 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules) -- $65 @ microcenter
EVGA GTX 660 – $199 microcenter
XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply -- $100 newegg
Samsung 840 250GB -- $171 newegg
WESTERN DIGITAL WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" internal hard drive
this is just from my own computer :D
no harsh comments please
and thanks for reading and taking the time to review XD
and if there is anything i am missing, then please let me know
THANK YOU! Microcenter has 3570k + motherboard combo. The Z77 Extreme4 when purchased with the 3570k at Microcenter is like $70. Enforcer isn't in the same category as the 550D? It's cheaper and is not sound dampening, not practically a good choice at $80 unless you like its aesthetics. 550D is a nice case but does have a few minor flaws and is a bit expensive due to it being Corsair and it having five year warranty. Fractal Design Define R4 can be found for about $90 sometimes, better than the 550D. $252 for like exact same thing (Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb and GTX 660): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1247439You don't need a 650w unit and even if you did, there are much better options at $100. A Rosewill Capstone 450 is plenty for such a configuration and if you purchase before the end of today, you can purchase the 650w variant for $75 more with promo code. Significantly better than the XFX Core Edition. Oh, I'd give it a 75 out of 100.
thanks for posting ^^
i dont see a link for that microcenter combo
can you post a link? from what i can search it doesnt say anything about it
i will take a look at the fractal, that does look really nice haha
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It's in their online catalogue. Pricing should be applied automatically in the store anyways so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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$40 is taken off when you add them into your cart, so the Extreme4 would be reduced from $135 to $95. The MC deals tend to change from time to time.
E.g. currently the GB UD3H is at $145 - 40 = $105.
The Asus P8Z77-V LX is $125 - 40 = $85.
Does your local MC have the 550D? If there's one huge advantage of having a local MC to go to, it's being able to see cases in person. You should try to iron down what your preferences are in a case.
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Why is everybody buying the z77 extreme4?
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Because 90% of people don't care that it supplies .02v more than it's reporting. And it's cheap and still OC's well.
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On April 03 2013 14:26 iTzSnypah wrote:
Because 90% of people don't care that it supplies .02v more than it's reporting. And it's cheap and still OC's well.
Yep. I don't understand the obsession people have with motherboard quality here when 95+% of the people that request builds don't give a flying fuck, even if they say they want to 'mildly overclock'.
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.02v more
Its actually more like 0.05-0.12v depending on vcore used, there was a few discussions about the extreme4 here and in pm's
On April 03 2013 16:34 skyR wrote:
Its only Belial...
What do you have against Belial? He's far from the only one that cares about defects like this
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