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ISighZ
United States270 Posts
Those 3 item from above and the following LGA 1155 motherboard (H67) -- $100 2x4 GB DDR3 RAM -- $85 (more RAM is better for working with large projects) HDD -- $50 Optical drive -- $20 PSU -- $40 Case -- $40 That's all I need? Order those then start building!? I'm so excited! And Good Night now. I shall head off to sleep. THAnkS AGAIN! | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
Mobo: Asus p867 vanilla Cpu: i5 2500k Cpu cooler: Cooler master hyper plus 212+ Case: not sure at moment PSU: Seasonic 520W GPU: GTX 460 1 GB SSD: 120 GB OS: win 7 home 64 bit RAM: 4 GB of G SKILL 1600 or whatever CD: some $20 generic cd/dvd drive Only games I would be playing are SC2 and possibly *twitches* WoW. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On January 10 2011 17:40 ISighZ wrote: Seems like Frys doesn't have the Intel Core i5 stuff. If putting some extra money would provide me a better computer, I don't mind. I'll get the Core i5-2500. GTX460 1GB (Any brand of GTX460 1GB works fine right?, I was looking at Frys and there's different brands of GTX460 1GB i saw one going for $140 after rebate. GALAXY GTX460). For monitor, I think I'll get Acer G235HAbd 23'' WideScreen LCD monitor. Those 3 item from above and the following LGA 1155 motherboard (H67) -- $100 2x4 GB DDR3 RAM -- $85 (more RAM is better for working with large projects) HDD -- $50 Optical drive -- $20 PSU -- $40 Case -- $40 That's all I need? Order those then start building!? I'm so excited! And Good Night now. I shall head off to sleep. THAnkS AGAIN! You're welcome. The Core i5-2xxx has been available in many locations for only a day or two now, so that's not surprising. Get the GTX 460 1GB at Frys if it's $140, since that's a good deal. Differences in models between companies is fairly small and has to do with the PCB design, specific component choice, cooling solution, etc. and then their warranties and customer support. The graphics chip itself (and thus the performance, if configured the same) is the same for all of them. If you're getting a GTX 460, you would want a PSU that is a little bit more powerful and expensive. Likewise, a more expensive case may have better ventilation to handle the heat, but you don't need to go overboard on that or the PSU. PSUs vary widely in quality despite what their labels say, so you may want to run exact component choices through here to make sure they're fine (also to make sure everything is compatible). | ||
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Ryan307 :)
United States1289 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.584324 I was looking at this myself, does it seem like a reasonable deal? Edit: Also, if I were to buy this package, what graphics card would you recommend? Edit 2: Fixed link | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Since you may be able to find other combos or cheaper alternatives, that $45 in combo savings doesn't really sound like much savings. It's not bad though. At current newegg prices (you could maybe find a better deal elsewhere), a HD 6850 for $170 (- $10 MIR) looks like a decent offer. It can run SC2 on ultra and should handle most games unless you're on ridiculous resolutions. | ||
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ISighZ
United States270 Posts
Case - http://www.frys.com/product/5782162 $35 Mobo - Mother Board $100 HDD - Hard Drive Disk $40 Ram - 6 GB $49.90 or 6 GB $49.99 I couldn't find any 2x4 GB DDR3 for $80. I did saw one on newegg but I never heard of that brand of memory so..I think 6 GB of ram is enough? PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709027 $40 GPU - Galaxy GTX460 $140 CD/DVD drive - ASUS $20 Monitor - Acer $150  That's all? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Your components don't make sense. If you're getting a 2500k than that means you want to overclock or use the integrated GPU. But since you have a discrete GPU on your list, that means you're not using the integrated GPU. Which means you want to overclock but you selected a H67 which does not allow you to overclock... If you're on such a low budget, you may want to reconsider entirely. I've never heard of sunbeam and quick googling tells me you want to steer clear of them. You want a dual channel kit as sandybridge is dual channel... not triple channel. GSkill is a better brand than Patriot and is one of the best memory brands atm: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The SunBeam is a junker btw. This Rosewill Green Series 430W for $45 is okay. If you really need to cut down on cost, you could get the Athlon II X4 build. You could also try a smaller monitor, weaker GPU, or something like that. | ||
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ISighZ
United States270 Posts
That's all I need to replace? As for the cost, it's fine.. it's time to buy some ramens :DDD | ||
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Chaomantic
20 Posts
Thanks for the pointers, guys. Much obliged. Gave the matter some thought, lurked some more and decided to heed a176's advice to wait for newer processors to arrive which will take some time where I live (Belarus, Eastern Europe). I'll probably toss in some more money and have myself a decent mid-range thing. Will probably ask for futher guidance on that one. Unfortunatly all of the shops I can find sell overpriced parts and offer no reputable/reliable PSU brands apart from Cooler Master. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On second thought, maybe you should try another case. I think the one you picked has a (really crappy) power supply included, but it doesn't have a single fan in the back? That's a bad idea for running a system with a GPU like that. For $5 more, you could try this or this. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On January 10 2011 17:52 Silentness wrote: I changed what I'm going to get after tax refund: Mobo: Asus p867 vanilla Cpu: i5 2500k Cpu cooler: Cooler master hyper plus 212+ Case: not sure at moment PSU: Seasonic 520W GPU: GTX 460 1 GB SSD: 120 GB OS: win 7 home 64 bit RAM: 4 GB of G SKILL 1600 or whatever CD: some $20 generic cd/dvd drive Only games I would be playing are SC2 and possibly *twitches* WoW. i dont recommend getting the p8p67 vanilla. the second pcie x16 port only runs at 4x. what that means is that its pointless for sli/crossfire, so you can save money buy getting a smaller matx board. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131688 the p8p67-m pro allows gives you a full slot, is $10 cheaper than the vanilla p8p67, but you wont have any extra slots if opt for 2 video cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131691 lastly, on SSDs - the next generation of ssds will be offering minimum speeds that are well over most maximum speeds of current ssds. if you're willing to shell 200-300 for a current drive, you should just get a samsung f3/f4 now and buy one of the newer drives when they come out later. | ||
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Toobz
United States88 Posts
CPU: AMD Athlon 64, 2400 MHz (12 x 200) 3800+ GPU/mobo: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE (256 MB) / I think the mobo is the nVIDIA C51 Memory: 1GB Resolution: 1280x1024 Now before you say "buy a new computer" let me just say that my brother only wants to play SC2 on Low Settings at that resolution. It's pretty laggy when he runs it right now, and IMO unplayable. Is it possible to upgrade a couple components in order to play the game at those settings? I know the GPU is integrated but would it be possible to add an additional video card in there? He wants the cheapest way to play SC2 at low settings at 1280x1024 res. Meaning the GTX 460 is out of the question. Thanks for the help! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
To play on lowest settings, you'll need to put in a discrete graphics card. The CPU is still going to be a big problem in larger fights, even in 1v1 situations, but it'll run. RAM is also low, but it should be manageable on lowest settings with no background processes hogging resources. If you see this in time, try to grab this HD 4650 (512 MB DDR2 version, so crappy -_-;; ) for $35 - $15, free shipping. It's a shell shocker deal that expires sometime today or when they run out of stock I guess. It can borderline do medium on low resolutions, so it'll be perfect for low settings. On second thought, a single-core Athlon 64 may be just too weak, even early in the game. If we're talking 1v1 scenarios, an Athlon II could mostly handle that and would not be too expensive. Athlon II X2 + Biostar AM3 880G mobo and 2GB DDR3 RAM may be a decent upgrade for more than just SC2. You can run SC2 on low at something like 40-60 fps (early game) on the integrated HD 4250 graphics on that motherboard. | ||
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Toobz
United States88 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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bitter[KALT]
United States138 Posts
I am going to build a computer and I am going to need some help. I guess the best way to go about this is to run through the questions specified in the OP: Budget: Around 650 USD (for the case and anything inside it). I am flexible in this regard, but I don't want a high end machine. So I figure this should be enough. Right? Resolution: Don't know. I haven't used a desktop PC for gaming in 4 years. I am guessing 1680x1050?! Using it for: Gaming. Almost exclusively. Buying it for SC II, but I want to play some other games as well. (No streaming, no video editing...) Upgrade Cycle: Pretty long. I don't want to buy new parts in the near future. When to build: Right now Overclocking: No OS: Don't need one Second GPU: No Buying from: Newegg, Tigerdirect and the like... So basically online, eastern US I don't have a lot of experience with buying computer parts. After reading quite a bit and taking a closer look at some products, I am pretty much lost... So any specific suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks! | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:50 bitter[KALT] wrote: Hi everybody, I am going to build a computer and I am going to need some help. I guess the best way to go about this is to run through the questions specified in the OP: Budget: Around 650 USD (for the case and anything inside it). I am flexible in this regard, but I don't want a high end machine. So I figure this should be enough. Right? Resolution: Don't know. I haven't used a desktop PC for gaming in 4 years. I am guessing 1680x1050?! Using it for: Gaming. Almost exclusively. Buying it for SC II, but I want to play some other games as well. (No streaming, no video editing...) Upgrade Cycle: Pretty long. I don't want to buy new parts in the near future. When to build: Right now Overclocking: No OS: Don't need one Second GPU: No Buying from: Newegg, Tigerdirect and the like... So basically online, eastern US I don't have a lot of experience with buying computer parts. After reading quite a bit and taking a closer look at some products, I am pretty much lost... So any specific suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks! http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=21977008 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.575907 = $725 Notes: It a bit more than your stated budget, however, the Sandy Bridge CPUs are ridiculously fast in SC2 (and many other applications), so I believe they are worth every dollar for now and the future. Not to mention a $60 combo savings is hard to pass up. The HDD is on the smaller side of things at 320gb, but will still be very fast. If you want more space for movies, music, etc, consider getting the 1tb version (but that will cost more). | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Too bad the Core i3-21xx isn't out yet, or that'd be a better value for your computer usage. Core i5-2400 + Intel H67 SATA 6.0 USB3 mobo + free Civ 5 lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.575902 G.Skill 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 Powercolor HD 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131374 Samsung Spinpoint F4 320GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 Lite-on generic CD/DVD burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 Cooler Master HAF 912 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Antec Neo Eco 400W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 If you live in a state that doesn't have to pay taxes for Newegg, that should be about $650 total including shipping probably. The Spinpoint F4 is one of the fastest 7200 rpm drives, though you could get something with more capacity if you wanted. If you think the HAF 912 looks hideous, you could of course try something else there too. The CPU is definitely way overkill for current games, but maybe not so much for future games. Going with a cheaper AMD Athlon II + AM3 mobo and getting a higher-end GPU like a HD 6950 would be another option. edit: lol, pretty much identical builds! | ||
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