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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 13 2011 10:42 GMT
#2761
man I'd just get an K version anyways... even if you don't want to Overclock it will make your computer more future proof.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
January 13 2011 11:26 GMT
#2762
So a few years ago I would have figured out this stuff by myself but since I put down pc gaming for quite some while now and only took it back up with SC2 I have no idea what is state of teh art, norm and standard at this time. So please guys, help me build a machine that will last me for the upcomming sc2 expansions and will provide good use for streaming and my photoshop picture editing hobby.Many thanks beforehand.

What is your budget?
800 Euro

What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080 Pixel - want to get me a new full hd monitor with it

What are you using it for?
Starcraft 2
Streaming (of the above)
Photoshop


What is your upgrade cycle?
This thing should last me another 4 years

When do you plan on building it?
Next 2 months

Do you plan on overclocking?
No


Do you need an Operating System?
No


Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No idea if i should

Where are you buying your parts from?
Germany, Online shops
Munich StarCraft & BarCraft | www.munich-starcraft.de
Toobz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
January 13 2011 21:23 GMT
#2763
Hi all, I am currently building my computer. But I'm a little stuck. My Core i5 2500K did not seem to come with any thermal paste. Does it not require any? I was under the impression that I didn't need to buy any and that some came with the CPU.
Its pretty alright
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 13 2011 21:24 GMT
#2764
On January 14 2011 06:23 Toobz wrote:
Hi all, I am currently building my computer. But I'm a little stuck. My Core i5 2500K did not seem to come with any thermal paste. Does it not require any? I was under the impression that I didn't need to buy any and that some came with the CPU.


The heatsink has thermal paste pre-applied to it.
Toobz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
January 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#2765
OK thanks. My case has a bottom-mounted PSU. There is a vent and it looks like I could make the fan face downwards. I have the Seasonic 520w PSU, is installing the PSU with the fan facing the bottom of the case better, or should I install it with the fan facing the inside of the computer?
Its pretty alright
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#2766
On January 14 2011 06:47 Toobz wrote:
OK thanks. My case has a bottom-mounted PSU. There is a vent and it looks like I could make the fan face downwards. I have the Seasonic 520w PSU, is installing the PSU with the fan facing the bottom of the case better, or should I install it with the fan facing the inside of the computer?


It's better to have it face down because the PSU is an intake fan so if you install it facing up, it'll be stealing air from your GPU. But really, it doesn't matter... it's up to you.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 22:40:14
January 13 2011 22:39 GMT
#2767
On January 13 2011 18:43 aliasds wrote:
Hey everyone,
I thought I'd come here and ask for a consult before I went ahead an bought a new computer, just to make sure there aren't any glaring deficiencies or major overpricing that I've missed. It will be primarily a computer for games like sc2, hopefully d3 sometime in the near future, and stuff like that. Here's the build:

gpu: EVGA GeForce GTX 460 Fermi 720MHZ 1024MB - $200 -30 MIR
cpu: i5 2500 - $200
mobo: Asus p8h67-m Pro - $118
ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 - $90
psu: XFX 650W XXX Edition - $90 -30 MIR
hdd: WD 1TB SATA3 - $80
total: 778 - 60 MIR

I already have an Antec 300 case to put everything in. Does everything seem okay? I don't plan on OCing or anything, and hopefully won't need any upgrades for at least 3 years.
Thanks for the help!


you dont need ddr3-1600 ram, 1333 works fine enough and is what most reviewers used
try these
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57950&promoid=1277 (note its out of stock at their warehouse, so newegg has them for a couple dollars more: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 )

also, order these from newegg
samsung f3, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=samsung_f3-_-22-152-185-_-Product
seasonic 520w, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094&cm_re=seasonic_s12ii-_-17-151-094-_-Product
evga 460 1gb superclocked, http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130596
starleague forever
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 13 2011 23:51 GMT
#2768
@MIKster: Here are the parts you would need:

CPU -- Core i5-2500 (or i5-2400 or i5-2300; they are all the same except have a slightly different clock speed and are priced accordingly)
Motherboard -- Any decent LGA 1155 board (H67 or P67) that has all the expansion slots/connectors you need
RAM -- 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM (or 2x4 GB actually, if you want to be safe and have room for heavy image work)
GPU -- Radeon HD 6870 or GTX 560 (GTX 560 not out yet, but will be soon enough)
Hard drives -- enough as you need
Optical drive
Power supply -- a good 430-500W would be plenty. You could run all that fine on a good 380W, but a little extra room is not a bad idea. Lower-cost units that seem to be widely available and reasonably reliable would include Corsair CX series and OCZ StealthXStream II series.
Case -- whatever has reasonable airflow and looks fine to you

That would cost about 700-800 USD, so with 800 Euros this should be fine. Did your budget include the monitor too?
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
January 14 2011 00:40 GMT
#2769
Hi everyone just looking for a bit of advice, I'm looking for a new mobo as my m2n-sli is starting to really show its age. If I don't plan on running sli/crossfire is there any reason to not get a single 16x pci slot mobo? Was looking at http://msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=3133
Current specs:
phenom II 965be
gts250 (will want to upgrade this in the near future)

Plan on slight cpu oc (already got my 965 up to 4ghz) also board must have room for coolermaster hyper 212+ cpu heat sink.
Looking to pay between 120-150(aus dollar) obv less is better.
Thanks.
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
January 14 2011 00:49 GMT
#2770
Hey, I thought a computer a few years back and eventhough it's been good for a long time, it has not really been the best in regards to Starcraft2/WoW. I'm pretty sure it's a fairly good computer but I'm looking to build a new one maybe using some of the parts from the old computer. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

Specifications of the computer I'm using now: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01125223&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3542423

I'm not sure if that link works, hp site is not being kind to me.

What is your budget?
Around 700 euros

What is your resolution?
1440x900

What are you using it for?
Gaming/streaming pretty much. Don't really play any game other than Starcraft2/WoW.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I'm hoping it'll last me 2-3 years, just a student so can't afford to keep spending every year!

When do you plan on building it?
In the next 4 months, since that's when I'm moving.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I am not that great with computers so not sure, probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Holland so I can use http://www2.hardwareversand.de/home.jsp / Komplett.nl

Thanks a lot!
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#2771
On January 14 2011 09:40 Az0r_au wrote:
Hi everyone just looking for a bit of advice, I'm looking for a new mobo as my m2n-sli is starting to really show its age. If I don't plan on running sli/crossfire is there any reason to not get a single 16x pci slot mobo? Was looking at http://msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=3133
Current specs:
phenom II 965be
gts250 (will want to upgrade this in the near future)

Plan on slight cpu oc (already got my 965 up to 4ghz) also board must have room for coolermaster hyper 212+ cpu heat sink.
Looking to pay between 120-150(aus dollar) obv less is better.
Thanks.


why do u think u need a new mobo? mobo is the last thing people think about when upgrading. use that money towards a better video card
starleague forever
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
January 14 2011 01:20 GMT
#2772
My current ram has errors and my mobo doesn't support ddr3 and doesnt "officially" support phenom II (I have to use nvidia control center to unlock my cores and set my multiplier past x4) so I want to buy new memory but dont want to buy ddr2 so figure now is a good time to upgrade. Also my mobo can't support the voltages I want for my OC.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 14 2011 01:54 GMT
#2773
On January 14 2011 10:20 Az0r_au wrote:
My current ram has errors and my mobo doesn't support ddr3 and doesnt "officially" support phenom II (I have to use nvidia control center to unlock my cores and set my multiplier past x4) so I want to buy new memory but dont want to buy ddr2 so figure now is a good time to upgrade. Also my mobo can't support the voltages I want for my OC.


im not entirely familiar with amd oc'ing but i found this good thread and forum, you could ask there as well. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664063
starleague forever
Toobz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
January 14 2011 02:02 GMT
#2774
So my case has two plug for Front Audio. From what I can tell I have HD and something called AC97. What is the difference between these two wires? I only have room in my mobo to connect one of them. Again, they both connect to the front audio jacks in my case.
Its pretty alright
Lisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Latvia376 Posts
January 14 2011 02:03 GMT
#2775
My current rig:
Phenom II X2 555 BE
MSI 880GM-E41
2x2GB DDR3 RAM
Thermaltake TR2 RX 550W PSU
1920x1080 120hz (Gonna buy soon, currently 1280x1024 120hz)

Budget:
50LVL(90$) preferable. Consider that everything's overpriced here!

Needs:
Stable as fuck 125+FPS in Quake @ 1920x1080 is a must. I get 125fps ezpez with lots of shit running on the integrated GPU @ 1280x1024, so no problem here I guess.
Playable recent good games.
Is SCII @ 1920x1080/120fps stable @ any quality possible?


Which video card should I get to suit my build? What should I look for?
HD 4850 (Ati Sapphire HD 4850 - 512 Mb only?/256 Bit 47LVL ~89$)
Seems nice enough?

Prices:
http://www.dateks.lv/ru/cenas/25.php
http://www.salidzini.lv
Used: http://www.ss.lv/lv/electronics/computers/completing/video/sell/filter/fDgTeF4SAzp4FD4eHTwT.html

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 14 2011 02:08 GMT
#2776
On January 14 2011 11:02 Toobz wrote:
So my case has two plug for Front Audio. From what I can tell I have HD and something called AC97. What is the difference between these two wires? I only have room in my mobo to connect one of them. Again, they both connect to the front audio jacks in my case.


AC97 (Audio Codec 97) and HD are both developed by Intel. AC97 came out in 1997 as you can tell by the name and HD came out in 2004. HD is the succesor to AC97 so use HD.
Toobz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States88 Posts
January 14 2011 02:22 GMT
#2777
Perfect, thanks again for the quick reply, skyR!
Its pretty alright
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
January 14 2011 02:25 GMT
#2778
On January 14 2011 11:03 Lisk wrote:
My current rig:
Phenom II X2 555 BE
MSI 880GM-E41
2x2GB DDR3 RAM
Thermaltake TR2 RX 550W PSU
1920x1080 120hz (Gonna buy soon, currently 1280x1024 120hz)

Budget:
50LVL(90$) preferable. Consider that everything's overpriced here!

Needs:
Stable as fuck 125+FPS in Quake @ 1920x1080 is a must. I get 125fps ezpez with lots of shit running on the integrated GPU @ 1280x1024, so no problem here I guess.
Playable recent good games.
Is SCII @ 1920x1080/120fps stable @ any quality possible?


Which video card should I get to suit my build? What should I look for?
HD 4850 (Ati Sapphire HD 4850 - 512 Mb only?/256 Bit 47LVL ~89$)
Seems nice enough?

Prices:
http://www.dateks.lv/ru/cenas/25.php
http://www.salidzini.lv
Used: http://www.ss.lv/lv/electronics/computers/completing/video/sell/filter/fDgTeF4SAzp4FD4eHTwT.html



120 fps? Why? SC2 should be stable at medium-high with a 4850 at that resolution.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 02:30:25
January 14 2011 02:29 GMT
#2779
I have a 4870 512mb ( > 4850 512mb ) and my comp get some small freezes when i'm playing in high or ultra @ 1920x1080.

My guess is that 512mb isn't enough for perfect performance in HD Sc2.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Lisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Latvia376 Posts
January 14 2011 02:36 GMT
#2780
Stable 120fps on 120hz is eye orgasm. Medium quality SCII is fine.

Does 128/256 bit matter much?
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