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On August 14 2012 04:15 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 03:57 Malgrif wrote:On August 14 2012 03:39 Myrmidon wrote:On August 14 2012 03:36 Malgrif wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey, how's this computer looking? http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/exOHtotal noob here, so let me know if theres any major flaws or problems or if there are major upgrades for relatively low price(I want to keep the price in this range howerever.) thanks guys. P.s. canadian prices and websites only What's the computer going to be used for? How much do you care about mail-in rebates vs. actual prices? Do you already have another hard drive, or is 120GB really enough? Light gaming, hopefully running guild wars 2, sc2, w/e on low smoothly. Primarily it'll be used as my personal computer so I'd like to be able to do all the basic stuff very well. Mail-in Rebate prices are fine, of course if the actual prices are low anyways that'd be great. And yes, I plan to cannibalize my current hard drive which is 500GB. If you're doing the PCPartPicker thing... http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ey1tCPU is a bit better for gaming (well, it depends on the game), SSD is better and more reliable, video card is much better, and the power supply is a little better too. Total cost is lower too. You could save a bit more on the motherboard if you wanted, but you may as well get something with USB3 and SATA3, and so on. Thanks for the feedback, I'd like to learn a little too though. Could you give me a brief explanation of why each of the components would be better for the overall system, like what numbers you're looking at?
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On August 14 2012 04:36 Myrmidon wrote:With over 2 Mb/s to work with, there's no way you can't run that on medium with 480p stream output. Everybody has unstable fps when there are large armies clashing, streaming or not. You can always make the picture quality / bitrate worse by turning down the encoding preset, which reduces the load on the CPU. Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 04:19 Gumbi wrote:On August 14 2012 03:56 Myrmidon wrote:
Lowercase b for bit. Sometimes people make a mistake, but Wabbit did not.
You can overclock on default coolers for modern Intel builds, just not by a lot unless you get a particularly good chip (manufacturing imperfections mean that each chip behaves a little differently). Doing so is not really recommended. If you don't overclock, i5-3470 and i5-2500k have similar performance. If you do, i5-2500k doesn't have an arbitrary limitation imposed by Intel, so of course it can be much faster. Thanks. I am aware of the difference in notation, but seeing as how ISPs where I live tend to say "megabyte" when referring to speeds as opposed to megabit I am wary of it  Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Most ISPs list Megabits because that gives a larger number. And it's not just marketing. Technical staff use Megabits—more specifically, prefixes meaning powers of 10 (not 2) and bits rather than bytes. Those are the conventions in communications / networks engineering and related fields. Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 04:29 Gumbi wrote:On August 14 2012 04:27 aBstractx wrote:
anytime you watch a good stream on twitch, like whitera/desrow/maximus, theyre all usually overclocked like 4.5 ghz + Yeah, White-Ra's is insane quality. One of the few 1080p+ :D I wasn't aware that streaming was so CPU intensive. Proper video encodes for offline viewing (not done in real time, unlike streaming) are too slow for even the fastest processors to handle in real time. The frames processed per second can be pretty low. In other words, it's very CPU intensive. For streaming, encoders are just set to make some speed / quality tradeoffs so they can actually keep up with the frames as they come in. With enough speed / quality tradeoffs and 480p, you don't need anything near as good as an i5-3470 even. That said, there are definitely diminishing returns on the better settings.
Nope. They say megabytes, even though they mean megabits  I'm talking about sales' guys etc. who mightn't actually know what they're talking about. Megabyte is more part of the vernacular than megabit you see
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On August 14 2012 04:49 Malgrif wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 04:15 Myrmidon wrote:On August 14 2012 03:57 Malgrif wrote:On August 14 2012 03:39 Myrmidon wrote:On August 14 2012 03:36 Malgrif wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey, how's this computer looking? http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/exOHtotal noob here, so let me know if theres any major flaws or problems or if there are major upgrades for relatively low price(I want to keep the price in this range howerever.) thanks guys. P.s. canadian prices and websites only What's the computer going to be used for? How much do you care about mail-in rebates vs. actual prices? Do you already have another hard drive, or is 120GB really enough? Light gaming, hopefully running guild wars 2, sc2, w/e on low smoothly. Primarily it'll be used as my personal computer so I'd like to be able to do all the basic stuff very well. Mail-in Rebate prices are fine, of course if the actual prices are low anyways that'd be great. And yes, I plan to cannibalize my current hard drive which is 500GB. If you're doing the PCPartPicker thing... http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/ey1tCPU is a bit better for gaming (well, it depends on the game), SSD is better and more reliable, video card is much better, and the power supply is a little better too. Total cost is lower too. You could save a bit more on the motherboard if you wanted, but you may as well get something with USB3 and SATA3, and so on. Thanks for the feedback, I'd like to learn a little too though. Could you give me a brief explanation of why each of the components would be better for the overall system, like what numbers you're looking at?
I can try,
CPU is going to be a duel core vs your four core but with stronger individual cores and since most games use 1 or 2 cores, the Intel is better.
Intel ssds have a great reputation. (But so do some others)
Gpu, its just better model
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okay so here is my final build, changed the case, psu, added a monitor which had a pretty good rating and reviews any comments on it?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ezm9
just waiting for sell my current pc before i go ahead and buy everything
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Corsair AX750 is $5 more upfront, less expensive after mail in rebate - overall a better purchase than Rosewill Lightning.
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Do you really mean to get two SSDs?
More importantly, why are you getting a $430 graphics card to play games on a $150 monitor (even if it's a decent model) that's 60 Hz, 1080p, 23.6"? You do realize that even if your system can handle a very high fps, you're still never getting the monitor to display anything new until 16.7ms later?
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On July 22 2012 03:13 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:10 Mackem wrote:On July 22 2012 02:21 Myrmidon wrote:JH, didn't you have some RAM issue (one channel went out?) that was caused by the CPU not being seated completely properly? CPU cooler got knocked around? It may be worth just reseating everything. Memory controller is on the CPU die, after all. Also, quadruple-check that the 24-pin ATX connector is very firmly seated. 3.3V for the memory VRMs comes through there, and loose connectors cause some voltage droop. I'd tend not to blame the CPU in general, since those are hard to destroy. On July 22 2012 01:27 Puph wrote:
Hey eveyrone quick question. I just built a rig and I'm worried I used to the wrong screws to secure the mother board to the stand offs! My case came with sssooo many screws T_T
I believe I should be using fully cylindrical screws. They're quite l large. To secure my mother board Ii used standard dome-head screws. Any input on my choice of screw? sory for lack of pictures! If it is mechanically stable, then it should be okay. I can't really tell what you're trying to say though. I mean I tried a lot of stuff. I loosened the screws a bit from my Hyper 212 EVO as well as slightly loosening the screws from the motherboard standoffs but still no dice. How would loosening the motherboard standoffs make a difference? Which screws on the Hyper 212 EVO? Are there ones that change the contact pressure? That still doesn't mean much with regards to what I said...not that I really think it's the CPU mounting.
OK, so I reseated the CPU as a last ditch effort and now the RAM works. I told the techie guy from Scan Computers; His reply?
'i doubt very much thats the problem...'
Anyone care to explain why this fixed the problem?
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Ok so my current computer is unable to play SC2 very well. I usually get between 5 and 25 fps on low and usually 5-10. I know its not a lot of money but would I be better off building a rig or buying a comp for about 600 dollars? Thanks!
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On August 14 2012 09:50 Myrmidon wrote:
Do you really mean to get two SSDs?
More importantly, why are you getting a $430 graphics card to play games on a $150 monitor (even if it's a decent model) that's 60 Hz, 1080p, 23.6"? You do realize that even if your system can handle a very high fps, you're still never getting the monitor to display anything new until 16.7ms later?
i already own a crucial m4 64gb, so i figured im just gonna buy another ssd for my main storage. currently only use 100gb on my 500gb hdd now so i dont require that much space will be able to fit everything on ssd.. and no i did not realize my monitor would make a difference like that, let me go change that 
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On August 14 2012 10:13 Mackem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 03:13 Myrmidon wrote:On July 22 2012 03:10 Mackem wrote:On July 22 2012 02:21 Myrmidon wrote:JH, didn't you have some RAM issue (one channel went out?) that was caused by the CPU not being seated completely properly? CPU cooler got knocked around? It may be worth just reseating everything. Memory controller is on the CPU die, after all. Also, quadruple-check that the 24-pin ATX connector is very firmly seated. 3.3V for the memory VRMs comes through there, and loose connectors cause some voltage droop. I'd tend not to blame the CPU in general, since those are hard to destroy. On July 22 2012 01:27 Puph wrote:
Hey eveyrone quick question. I just built a rig and I'm worried I used to the wrong screws to secure the mother board to the stand offs! My case came with sssooo many screws T_T
I believe I should be using fully cylindrical screws. They're quite l large. To secure my mother board Ii used standard dome-head screws. Any input on my choice of screw? sory for lack of pictures! If it is mechanically stable, then it should be okay. I can't really tell what you're trying to say though. I mean I tried a lot of stuff. I loosened the screws a bit from my Hyper 212 EVO as well as slightly loosening the screws from the motherboard standoffs but still no dice. How would loosening the motherboard standoffs make a difference? Which screws on the Hyper 212 EVO? Are there ones that change the contact pressure? That still doesn't mean much with regards to what I said...not that I really think it's the CPU mounting. OK, so I reseated the CPU as a last ditch effort and now the RAM works. I told the techie guy from Scan Computers; His reply? 'i doubt very much thats the problem...' Anyone care to explain why this fixed the problem?
Because, the memory controller is on the CPU, so if the wrong pins are out of alignment and not making contact in the socket, it can screw with the memory controller.
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Anyone have any info on the gtx 660 ti vs using a 560 ti?
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Hey everyone, I haven't followed the gaming accessory for a while.
I'm looking for a gaming headset (two actually, for my friend too). Ours, Corsair HS1A broke after about 1 year of usage (which is really unfortunate ; we liked them alot - not sure if there is any guarantee on them). I'm looking to buy a replacement for both of them (assuming no guarantee)
Any suggestion? I read some people recommending to buy a Headset (good one) and then buy a random clip Mic.
I also read that Wireless can be interesting (Most of my headsets seem to be broken because of the cable, and not because the sound devices)
What are your thoughts? Wireless : yes or not?
Mic + Headset or just a headset that has both?
Thank you!
Budget is about 100$ per headset (or headset + mic) / maybe less for my friend. I could buy 2 more Corsair HS1A, but not sure since both ours broke within 1 year of use (more for me)
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HS1 carries a two year warranty so just contact Corsair for a new one.
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Mic + headphones beat out most headsets every day of the week but for less a headset might be optimal. For $100 you can get a pretty nice pair of Sennheiser headphones if you know where to look. My problem with all of these gaming brands is that the sound quality isnt very good, the wires break loose, or they are USB and have a very sub par sound card in them.
There is a whole headphones enthusiast thread here if you want to take a look. You dont have to spend lots of money and I always recommend not bundeling microphone and headphone technologies together unless you need to walk around the room a lot.
On August 14 2012 12:13 skyR wrote:
HS1 carries a two year warranty so just contact Corsair for a new one.
Yeah do this.
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i can't believe how easy it was to get + Show Spoiler + windows lol, never did it thought it would be hard.
okay so i just finished installing windows 7 onto my secondary pc. and it worked flawlessly. took about a half hour. my question now is..
if i use the same cd onto this pc i'm currently on it will work again right?
also would you guys mind giving my some sort of estimate as to how much i can get for this PC? I currently have it listed on ebay for $100 Auction, $150 Buy It Now. After removing Vista and installing Windows 7 I feel it might be worth a little more than that? Maybe $200?
1) Dell Inspiron 530 slim
These are the upgrades i've made on it, everything else is stock.
- Windows 7 64-Bit
- Intel Core 2 Duo CPU @ 2.93GHz
- 4 GB RAM
- Sapphire Radeon HD 4650
Windows Experience Rating:
Processor: 6.5
Memory: 6.5
Graphics: 5.0
Gaming Graphics: 6.4
Primary HDD: 5.9
Here are the stock specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-inspiron-530/4507-3118_7-32953389.html
with a 19" DCL9B Monitor + Show Spoiler +http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824211001
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Did I needed to register for the 2 years, or the proof of purchase is sufficient?
Robert
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No you didn't need to register.
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Hi everyone,
I am having trouble choosing a laptop and would appreciate a word of advice on which machine is better. I have never had any of these brands so I am not sure which one is good. Is the Asus and MSI really worth the money? I am a programmer and want to choose a powerful machine and it would be nice a nice graphics to play SC2 and other games. I have narrowed it down to several options:
XMG A522 ADVANCED Gaming Notebook 39.6 cm (15.6 ")
Price € 1,316.00
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• 39.6 cm (15.6 ") Full HD (1920 * 1080) Non-Glare
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M GDDR5 2048MB
• Intel Core i7-3720QM - 2.60 - 3.60 GHz 6MB 45W "Ivy Bridge"
• 8 GB (2x4096) 1600MHz DDR3 RAM SO-DIMM Corsair Vengeance
• 320GB SATA II 5400 rpm / min Toshiba (MK3276GSX)
128GB SATA III SSD Crucial RealSSD M4 (CT128M4SSD2)
• DVD SATA Multi-Standard Burner
• Wireless LAN Killer N BIGFOOT 1103 (without Bluetooth)
• Basic Warranty: 24M. Pickup & Return | 6M. Immediate repair DE
• no operating system
• Microsoft Office 2010 Starter (only when ordered and pre-installation of Windows 7)
• Keyboard U.S. International
XMG P502 PRO Gaming Notebook 39,6cm (15.6")
Price 1.581,00 €
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• 39,6cm (15.6") Full-HD (1920*1080) Glare
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 1536MB GDDR5 | TDP: 75W
• Intel Core i7-3720QM - 2,60 - 3,60GHz 6MB 45W "Ivy Bridge"
• 8GB (2x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz CORSAIR Vengeance
• 1000GB SATA-II 5400U/Min Seagate Momentus (ST1000LM024)
• 128GB mSATA-III SSD Crucial M4 (CT128M4SSD3)
• DVD SATA Multinorm Brenner
• BIGFOOT Wireless LAN Killer N 1103 (ohne Bluetooth)
• Basis-Garantie: 24M. Pickup&Return | 6M. Sofort-Reparatur -DE
• ohne Betriebssystem
• Microsoft Office 2010 Starter (nur bei Bestellung und Vorinstallation von Windows 7)
• Keyboard U.S. International
MSI Notebook GT70-0NC-068NL
Price: € 1799.00
+ Show Spoiler +Display: 17.3" WUXGA LED, resolutie 1920x1080
Processor: Mobile Intel Core i7 3610QM Quad-Core (2.30GHz)
Cache: 6MB
Chipset: Intel HM77
Geheugen: 8GB (4x2GB) PC10666 DDR3 SODIMM
Videokaart: NVIDIA GeForce GTX670M 3GB DDR5 VRAM
SSD: 128GB SATA
Harddisk: 750GB SATA 7200rpm
Optische drive: DVD-/+RW Dual-Layer, BD-ROM
LAN: 1Gbit
WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 3.0
2x USB3.0
3x USB2.0
1x eSATA
1x HDMI
1x VGA-out
4-in-1 Cardreader
2.0 Megapixel Webcam
9-Cells batterij
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Afmetingen: 428x288x55mm
Gewicht: 3.50kg
Asus Notebook G75VW-T1086V
Price: € 1798.90
+ Show Spoiler +Display: 17.3" WUXGA LED, resolutie 1920x1080
Processor: Mobile Intel Core i7 3610QM Quad-Core (2.30GHz)
Cache: 6MB
Chipset: Intel HM77
Geheugen: 12GB (3x4GB) PC12800 DDR3 SODIMM (Max. 16GB)
Videokaart: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 3GB DDR3 VRAM
SSD: 256GB
Harddisk: 1TB SATA 5400rpm
Optische drive: DVD-/+RW Dual-Layer, BD-ROM
LAN: 1Gbit
WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 4.0
4x USB3.0
1x HDMI
1x VGA-out
Mini-DisplayPort
Cardreader
2.0 Megapixel webcam
8-Cells batterij
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Afmetingen: 415x320x52mm
Gewicht: 4.50kg
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all of them are good,but for gaming i would recommend the xmg because of the ivy bridge i7's
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they all have ivebridge cpu's
and all are overpriced also
you should be able to find a last gen i7 with gtx 670m for 1200€ normally, in france at least we can easily, but i don't know where to look for other european country for high end laptops
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