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Illadelph4
United States51 Posts
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
i5-760 2.8ghz quad, 4gb ddr3 ram, gtx 460 1gb I open sc2 and it recommends Ultra settings which made me so happy! I noticed though that if I hover over each particular setting, 3 of the settings it recommends non-ultra settings: lighting low, shadows low, and post-processing on medium I wonder why, with this build, does it suggest those on lower settings? EDIT: and it's funny, because low shadows is not even an option. Only medium and higher, when overall graphics are on ultra. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On December 08 2010 09:40 Illadelph4 wrote: can someone build me a desktop for ~$1000 - i would like to go intel and use a geforce card.. i just cant seem to pick out the right stuff worth the buck. help!!.. also i dont need a keyboard or mouse.. Where are you buying your parts from? Is it for hardcore gaming only? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On December 08 2010 09:40 Illadelph4 wrote: can someone build me a desktop for ~$1000 - i would like to go intel and use a geforce card.. i just cant seem to pick out the right stuff worth the buck. help!!.. also i dont need a keyboard or mouse.. Please follow the thread guidelines and post the information that was requested so we can bette rsuit your needs | ||
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Illadelph4
United States51 Posts
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
On December 08 2010 09:40 Illadelph4 wrote: can someone build me a desktop for ~$1000 - i would like to go intel and use a geforce card.. i just cant seem to pick out the right stuff worth the buck. help!!.. also i dont need a keyboard or mouse.. + Show Spoiler + Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM Item #: N82E16827118039 $19.99 COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Item #: N82E16811119233 $59.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Item #: N82E16822152181 $54.99 MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814127518 $189.99 XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular ... Item #: N82E16817207003 $129.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH Item #: N82E16820231276 $69.99 ASRock P55 EXTREME4 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813157206 $144.99 Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3540 Item #: N82E16819115221 $114.99 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM Item #: N82E16832116758 $139.99 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 Item #: N82E16835103065 $29.99 Subtotal: $954.90 USB3/SATA3 will futureproof your computer, quality psu/mobo means you can put in a second 460 whenever you get the extra cash, and the performance from the get-go should be to your liking. Assuming you overclock, this system will get very good results. EDIT: Tell me if you need any justification behind any of the parts; I'll be glad to explain my thought process to you. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Even then, USB3 is fairly useless right now since eSATA and hot swap bays are still better and nothing but the very best SSDs can even begin to take advantage of SATA3. | ||
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On December 08 2010 12:29 skyR wrote: USB3 will most likely never be mainstream if Intel and Apple refuse to adopt it in favor of Light Peak. And this. You can't futureproof computers, its not possible don't bother with it. Buy what you need right now, and maybe in the next few months, and call it a day. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On December 08 2010 09:40 Illadelph4 wrote: can someone build me a desktop for ~$1000 - i would like to go intel and use a geforce card.. i just cant seem to pick out the right stuff worth the buck. help!!.. also i dont need a keyboard or mouse.. + Show Spoiler + GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 - $80 AMD Phenom II 945 - $136 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 - $50 Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB - $70 Coolermaster HAF 912 - $60 Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W Power Supply - $90 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - $100 MSI Geforce GTX570 Graphics Card - $350 Total: $940 Is there a reason you want to choose Intel over AMD? AMD is damn good if you're on a strict budget. I'm no big AMD man but this should be fine. The GTX570 should be able to max basically any game out there right now except Metro 2033 but that game kills basically every configuration at high resolutions and all DirectX11 features enabled. If you need to save money, get a cheaper graphics card like a GTX460 1GB. If you are still in education, you can probably get Windows 7 for close to free or for like $50. I can get Windows 7 Professional for like $10 from my university's computer science department. On December 08 2010 12:32 KeiQQ wrote: I suppose, but it still seems like a hassle, especially when the board itself isn't even sacrificing anything for usb/sata3, and he still wouldn't be able to get front-panel usb3 without some ridiculous wiring setup. I think it's worth it, but different prefferences I suppose. It often is, a lot of the P55 boards sacrifice PCI performance if you are running anything off USB3/SATA3. Normally not much of a problem since most people just run a single graphics card but you might run into problems with dual GPU configurations and/or multiple PCI devices like wireless cards and sound cards. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
2mb download/500kbps upload monitor resolution 1920/1080 Processor(Intel® Core™ i3 540 Processor (2x 3.06GHz/4MB L3 Cache)) Processor Cooling([Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 92mm Radiator) Memory(4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand) Video Card(ATI Radeon HD 5770 - 1GB - Single Card) Video Card Brand(Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA) Motherboard(Gigabyte GA-H55M-USB3) Motherboard USB / SATA Interface(Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface) Power Supply(700 Watt -- Standard) Primary Hard Drive(750 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive) Sound Card(3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard) Network Card(Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)) Operating System(Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit) Thank you all in advance for your help  | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On December 08 2010 12:25 KeiQQ wrote: Yes, but we're not sure about 3-4 years from now - when usb3/sata3 phase into mainstream, I don't see buying a new motherboard being the best solution. in 3-4 years it's time for a new computer anyways so...meh | ||
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Illadelph4
United States51 Posts
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Minzy
Australia387 Posts
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
On December 08 2010 13:04 Womwomwom wrote: It often is, a lot of the P55 boards sacrifice PCI performance if you are running anything off USB3/SATA3. Normally not much of a problem since most people just run a single graphics card but you might run into problems with dual GPU configurations and/or multiple PCI devices like wireless cards and sound cards. Fair enough. I've always been a fan of having it integrated because I don't like running the risk of any expansion card getting stuck in between two high-end graphic cards for heat issues, but you definitely raise a valid point. With that being said, unless you plan on getting some high-end HDD or SSD (Crucial is one of the only ssds with sata3 now iirc?) in the future, you should be fine without sata3 either in all honesty. EDIT: Also, if he ever plans on running SLI - Wouldn't he need to switch to an intel cpu? I know AMD can run nvidia cards fine (providing they have a nvidia chipset, which all don't), but perform signifigantly worse than an intel chipset in SLI. | ||
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Womwomwom
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On December 08 2010 20:50 KeiQQ wrote:\ EDIT: Also, if he ever plans on running SLI - Wouldn't he need to switch to an intel cpu? I know AMD can run nvidia cards fine (providing they have a nvidia chipset, which all don't), but perform signifigantly worse than an intel chipset in SLI. You don't need to SLI - the GTX570 has GTX480 performance and that card is insanely powerful. Only game you are going to struggle with is Metro 2033 on absolute max settings and maybe Crysis 2 when it does come out but nothing else out there is really going to pressure it any time soon. I very rarely understand the purpose of SLI/Crossfire because the large number of console ports have basically made PC gaming less of an upgrade intensive hobby - you can build a PC that can pretty much max 95% of games out out there for $800, even less if you skimp on a lot of stuff. Unless you are running obscene resolutions and/or running 3D effects, there is no need to spend so much on dual graphics cards. In three years time when when you have to upgrade (possibly) because your card is too weak to handle the current generation games, a $200 card is probably going to completely embarrass your dual GPU configuration. | ||
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
On December 08 2010 21:27 Womwomwom wrote: You don't need to SLI - the GTX570 has GTX480 performance and that card is insanely powerful. Only game you are going to struggle with is Metro 2033 on absolute max settings and maybe Crysis 2 when it does come out but nothing else out there is really going to pressure it any time soon. I very rarely understand the purpose of SLI/Crossfire because the large number of console ports have basically made PC gaming less of an upgrade intensive hobby - you can build a PC that can pretty much max 95% of games out out there for $800, even less if you skimp on a lot of stuff. Unless you are running obscene resolutions and/or running 3D effects, there is no need to spend so much on dual graphics cards. In three years time when when you have to upgrade (possibly) because your card is too weak to handle the current generation games, a $200 card is probably going to completely embarrass your dual GPU configuration. Yeah, but for example - two 460s, especially msi's hawk edition (if you oc them, at least) will blast away the performance of any 480, for similar price. It's a lot more bang for your buck, and it helps futureproof your pc (I don't mean this literally of course, I simply mean it extends the time before you go "welp, need a new pc"). Regardless, it's not technology to ignore, so I think it'd be better to stick with AMD/ATI or Intel/ATI/Nvidia incase he ever feels the need for more performance. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Then you have to include additional costs like a beefier power supply, perhaps aftermarket cooling if the ambient temp is particularly high, and a motherboard that has at least dual 8x PCIe slots. Cut these extra costs and you can save like $200 which you can spend on something with immediate gain like a better GPU or simply pocket it. SLI isn't a good upgrade strategy either. Two dual GPU cards of last generation are generally outperformed by a single GPU of the current generation; AMD's high end 4000's series of cards are basically buried by the current mid range 6000 series cards and its only been a single year. For a standard user just playing games, there is very little reason to use dual GPU options since you don't need the performance it can offer. If you are a computer enthusiast fine that's cool but most people are not and just want a computer to play Starcraft 2; if you need to ask this thread for computer building help, I don't think you're the type of person to benchmark, fold, or run obscene Eyefinity setups.. | ||
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