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ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
is this build good? what can i do to reduce cost( by not changing how good the computer will that much) i will not overclock if its too risky
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=175368
+ Show Spoiler [previous response] +On December 09 2010 10:06 Myrmidon wrote:
By the way, the AM2/AM2+/AM3 supporting motherboards--like the one listed--use DDR2 RAM, not DDR3 RAM. Get a normal AM3 motherboard and DDR3 RAM. 4 GB is enough for most people--if it turns out not to be enough, you can always grab more later easily.
I'm agreed on the case with the earlier advice. CM 690ii is a good case. You don't need a high-end cooling windtunnel case for a single midrange GPU system.
Overshooting power requirements is fine, but the VX550 is already overshooting the peak load amount by at least 200W. Actual load at idle or while gaming would be lower than peak load anyway. It's a good unit (yes, it's 80 plus, though 80 plus doesn't mean much), but slightly dated. There are better values out there, especially since you don't need that much power. You can get a reliable PSU without getting something ridiculously out of proportion.
You still have a mobo that uses DDR2 RAM along with DDR3 RAM, after multiple people in the other thread told you about it?
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On December 08 2010 08:29 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 08:27 maxchgr wrote:
Is it normal for Ram to be at 30-40% used (according to my RAM and CPU gadget) when I have barely anything (except this window even) open? Yes because you have Superfetch enabled. This feature learns which programs you use the most and loads them into the ram so that they will be ready when you need them.
On December 08 2010 09:29 Disregard wrote:
You can easily disable Superfetch from your starting services if you dont mind the programs that you use often to load slower than usual. Im using W7 64-bit, usually boot up with 20-25% RAM usage when Superfetch is on.
If you want to disable it, type msconfig in the run box and uncheck it from the starting services.
Is there a way to modify what superfetch preloads? It's just that it seems so high and I don't even run any programs that often except sc2 right now, and may be the windows media center because I'm checking out windows 7 programs. Once I have sc2 open (and nothing else besides this browser which only seems to add 1% ram usage), it is up to 78%.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 10 2010 11:15 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
is this build good? what can i do to reduce cost( by not changing how good the computer will that much) i will not overclock if its too risky
Try looking into the HAF 912, its a much cheaper case that's very roomy as well:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=haf 912
You should also get a 955 and not a 965, as they are the same exact cpu with the 965's stock clock rate tuned up, if you plan on ocing, even mildly, the 955 will be just as good.
Finally, you might want to consider 1333 ram instead of 1600 ram simply because it doesn't affect gaming all that much, and you might want to get a tad better quality board from the money you save, as it seems pretty lackluster compared to the other parts.
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whats a good amd motherboard?
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and is stock clock operating frequency like 3.2 GHz and 3.4 Ghz?
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You been the difference between the 955 and 965? Yes, it should be that.
I can recommend a good motherboard but I need to know, do you plan on ever running SLI?
If so, you'll either need to go intel or get a specific amd motherboard for it.
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Why do I have x86 and non-x86 and why do all programs that I install go to the x86 folder? Is this fine?
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Program Files is for 64 bit programs and Program Files (x86) is for 32 bit programs.
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Starcraft 2 is 32-bit program?
It seems like there are way more things in the (x86) folder. Are there more 32 bit programs than 64 bit programs?
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Yes, SC2 is a 32bit program and so is 99% (100% maybe??) of PC games on market today.
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Looks like a solid choice, and it should be barely enough to get ultra at 1920x1200.
If you really want Ultra at finest, then you should consider the GTX 460 1GB or the HD 6850 1GB, and also consider upgrading the CPU to a faster Phenom II X2 565 (and also trying to unlock some cores on the CPU).
Since you're in Canada you may benefit from ordering from NCIX.com instead of Newegg.ca
The benefit of Newegg is the combo deals, and you really don't get much of that on the Canadian site.
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Frag, what do you think about this list that I saw posted in another thread? It looks like a decent starting place for planning pure gaming computers, though of course one-size-fits-all advice rarely perfectly applies to everybody's needs.
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The 4chan guide is great as a general guideline yes, but they go out of date so quickly 
There's like a new 4chan guide every few days because of how fast things can change sometimes. However, the general guidelines and information on the bottom is very useful 
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lol, looking at that guide, apparently to keep my computer be "proportional" i should have spent way more on my gpu ><
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Hello, I'm trying to build my own machine but I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to computer hardware. I essentially want to run sc2 on high settings. Please let me know how I'm doing!
- COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
- MSI N450GTS-M2D1GD5/OC GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
- COOLER MASTER Silent Pro M700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
- AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
- G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
- Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Total cost: $535.92
Basically I want to know if this is everything I need to run a computer (minus keyboard, mouse, monitor) and will this system run sc2 on high settings? Is this good bang for my buck?
EDIT: I was considering this video card instead of the GTS 450
- Palit NE5X460EFHD02 GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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Mmm, do you really need a full tower? From your build, unless you have like 8 extra HD's lying around I don't see why you need THAT much space, you're better off getting something smaller and cheaper.
Also, at this point you really should get 4 gb of ram,
You don't have a motherboard actually...
Caviar blue is a little slow, should get Caviar black or a different brand
How much more can you spend?
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Don't get the 460 SE. Same price as the 460 768MB but has lower performance due to fewer cores, slower factory clock, etc (except at really high resolutions, but then the regular 460 1GB would be a better pick in that case).
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On December 11 2010 18:59 FragKrag wrote:
If you really want Ultra at finest, then you should consider the GTX 460 1GB or the HD 6850 1GB, and also consider upgrading the CPU to a faster Phenom II X2 565 (and also trying to unlock some cores on the CPU).
They released a 565? I already considered the 560 a waste of money when compared to the 555.
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