EPTThese days, putting a basic computer together is plug and play. Basically all you have to do is watch some Youtubes on computer building, follow the pictures inside your motherboard manual, and plug everything in. Motherboards are smart enough to choose perfectly good settings automatically; if it doesn't turn on its either you've done something wrong or the hardware is actually dead on arrival.
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
These days, putting a basic computer together is plug and play. Basically all you have to do is watch some Youtubes on computer building, follow the pictures inside your motherboard manual, and plug everything in. Motherboards are smart enough to choose perfectly good settings automatically; if it doesn't turn on its either you've done something wrong or the hardware is actually dead on arrival. | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
anyways so i need to build a budget pc that will run sc2 on decent settings (not looking for ultra, but will take it if its possible obv) my budget is roughly 550$ and i'm looking to do all my shopping on newegg through combo deals (so i can get something decent with such a low budget). Now i don't really know where to start... my previous pc (which was stolen :[ ) was some shitty dell with an ati x1300 pro. I was forced to play on low settings so i'm hoping to improve on that. My monitor i have is 1280x1024 resolution and i already have a keyboard and mouse set up. So yeah any help would be awesome! I've been browsing the combo deals on newegg but honestly i have no clue whats a good deal and whats compatible with what. Thanks for any help i receive! edit: budget is pretty firm because i'm living paycheck to paycheck. eventually i would hope to upgrade certain parts as funds become available. | ||
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KeiQQ
United States113 Posts
On December 13 2010 01:12 Guts wrote: First post on TL! anyways so i need to build a budget pc that will run sc2 on decent settings (not looking for ultra, but will take it if its possible obv) my budget is roughly 550$ and i'm looking to do all my shopping on newegg through combo deals (so i can get something decent with such a low budget). Now i don't really know where to start... my previous pc (which was stolen :[ ) was some shitty dell with an ati x1300 pro. I was forced to play on low settings so i'm hoping to improve on that. My monitor i have is 1280x1024 resolution and i already have a keyboard and mouse set up. So yeah any help would be awesome! I've been browsing the combo deals on newegg but honestly i have no clue whats a good deal and whats compatible with what. Thanks for any help i receive! edit: budget is pretty firm because i'm living paycheck to paycheck. eventually i would hope to upgrade certain parts as funds become available. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-build-a-pc-overclock,2739.html Check this article out, seems to fit your needs. | ||
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nothingbutzerg
Greece626 Posts
the only part that i had encountered some problems(due to lack of stuff) is the motherboard! i have purschased these ram sticks http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-145-260&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating i intend to buy this mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409 i have searched through forums (and the official Gigabytes' memory support page)but my results were controversial!is my mobo going to recognize my memory or should i return my ram and obtain some of 1333 speed.just wanted to ask if anyone had this mobo/ram combination and had any problem.thanks! :cheers: | ||
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Illadelph4
United States51 Posts
On December 12 2010 10:21 Illadelph4 wrote: okay guys, here is my build for christmas.. i need to order parts asap! let me know if you guys can modify for similar parts making it cheaper etc... let me know if this comp will be good for sc2 and gaming in general.. i have a steady job so i can always upgrade every 2 weeks if needed haha.. let me know what i can do etc and if im good to go to build once all the parts come adding a spoiler tag: + Show Spoiler + Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 $79.99 CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii_x6_1090t-_-19-103-849-_-Product $229 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274&cm_re=gskill-_-20-231-274-_-Product (2 orders) (8GB RAM total) $54.99 x 2 = $109.98 HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-152-185&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo $69.99 Powersupply: Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025&cm_re=Antec_TruePower_750w-_-17-371-025-_-Product $119.99 Windows 7 64 bit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 $99.99 Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552&cm_re=570-_-14-127-552-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552&cm_re=570-_-14-127-552-_-Product $349.99 Subtotal: $1058.93 also, i need help picking out a case that will ensure this stuff fits!! can anyone take a look at my build please? | ||
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
On December 12 2010 03:15 Myrmidon wrote: Frag, what do you think about this list that I saw posted in another thread? It looks like a decent starting place for planning pure gaming computers, though of course one-size-fits-all advice rarely perfectly applies to everybody's needs. Nice! This chart is so informative. Question: Under the chart, in the MOBO section, under tips, in the last tip, he says difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8 is trivial but x16/x4 is significant, what is he referring to? This is my mobo, I don't see anything like that in the details. Also, what site did you find that at, Myrmidon? | ||
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Neighbor
United States119 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:13 maxchgr wrote: Nice! This chart is so informative. Question: Under the chart, in the MOBO section, under tips, in the last tip, he says difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8 is trivial but x16/x4 is significant, what is he referring to? This is my mobo, I don't see anything like that in the details. Also, what site did you find that at, Myrmidon? It's talking about running multiple GPUs with Crossfire or SLI. Generally when you install a graphics card you put in a PCIE x16 slot (and it runs at x16). When running multiple cards the configuration (depending on the cpu and/or motherboard) could drop to x8 on each card or x16 and x4. If you look at your mobo's specs it says it has 2 x16 slots but one of them runs at x4. So if you install two ati cards in crossfire they will run at x16 and x4 (I'm not sure but I don't think your mobo can SLI). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:13 maxchgr wrote: Nice! This chart is so informative. Question: Under the chart, in the MOBO section, under tips, in the last tip, he says difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8 is trivial but x16/x4 is significant, what is he referring to? This is my mobo, I don't see anything like that in the details. Also, what site did you find that at, Myrmidon? He's talking about how much bandwidth the PCI-E x16 slots provide. You have a P55 board so having just one GPU will net you a full x16. Adding another GPU will get you x8/x8. Adding a third one will get you x8/x4/x4. If the motherboard has a nf200 chip than it would be able to do x16/x16 or x16/x8/x8. In comparison to the X58 which can do x16/x16 or x16/x16/x8. | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
Lite-on DVD burner Samsung F3 1TB MSI 870A-G54 Patriot 4GB DDR3 Athlon II X4 640 Rosewill mid tower + Rosewill 400W PSU COOLMASTER HYPER 212 ASUS 460 768mb total: 580$ | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 12 2010 10:21 Illadelph4 wrote: okay guys, here is my build for christmas.. i need to order parts asap! let me know if you guys can modify for similar parts making it cheaper etc... let me know if this comp will be good for sc2 and gaming in general.. i have a steady job so i can always upgrade every 2 weeks if needed haha.. let me know what i can do etc and if im good to go to build once all the parts come adding a spoiler tag: + Show Spoiler + Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 $79.99 CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii_x6_1090t-_-19-103-849-_-Product $229 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274&cm_re=gskill-_-20-231-274-_-Product (2 orders) (8GB RAM total) $54.99 x 2 = $109.98 HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-152-185&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo $69.99 Powersupply: Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371025&cm_re=Antec_TruePower_750w-_-17-371-025-_-Product $119.99 Windows 7 64 bit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 $99.99 Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552&cm_re=570-_-14-127-552-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552&cm_re=570-_-14-127-552-_-Product $349.99 Subtotal: $1058.93 also, i need help picking out a case that will ensure this stuff fits!! Here's a somewhat altered list: + Show Spoiler + Phenom II X4 955 + Gigabyte AM3 mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564585 EVGA GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593 A-Data 2x2GB DDR3 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211409 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Asus CD/DVD drive/burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Seasonic S12II Bronze 520W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 Cooler Master 690ii Advanced case + Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.546483.11-119-216 You don't need 6 cores for gaming, so a Phenom II X4 makes more sense. Or you could go with Intel and a Core i5-760 and corresponding LGA 1156 mobo. (or wait a month and go with one of Intel's 2nd gen Core i5 with a corresponding LGA 1155 mobo) 500W is plenty enough for any single-GPU system. There would be cheaper options than this, but the quality is great, especially for the price. The Truepower New was not a bad choice, but not necessary unless you were looking to replace CPU+mobo and run 2 GPUs one day. There's a decent case above. 4 GB RAM is enough for gaming. If you need more, you can always grab 4 GB more whenever--RAM upgrades are pretty trivial anyway. I don't know about which brand and models of GTX 570 are best, but EVGA is always a safe choice. That model has lifetime warranty upon registration for about $10 more than the other cards were going for--the GTX 570 is plenty powerful enough to last a while, so you might as well go with that. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Can you stretch the budget a little bit? The case and PSU both look unsuitable for a system more demanding than an office PC. Rosewill's low-end PSU offerings are notorious for killing computers. Their Green series and some other offerings are reasonable budget units, but this is not one of them. Also, there is some higher-rated 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM going for cheaper than that, both in terms of user rating and performance specs. Everything looks compatible though, but I didn't check the case dimensions at all, since I wouldn't recommend that case anyway. edit: also, what are you using the computer for? | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
On December 13 2010 04:10 Myrmidon wrote: @Guts: Can you stretch the budget a little bit? The case and PSU both look unsuitable for a system more demanding than an office PC. Rosewill's low-end PSU offerings are notorious for killing computers. Their Green series and some other offerings are reasonable budget units, but this is not one of them. Also, there is some higher-rated 2x2 GB DDR3 RAM going for cheaper than that, both in terms of user rating and performance specs. it really depends how much we're talking here? can you link a case/psu you would suggest? also let me check out the ram situation. edit:it's going to be for playing sc2 lol. that will be the only game i really play on it, other than that just normal shit. edit2:also the psu has some pretty good reviews? but would it be bad because my purpose for the pc(gaming)? and also i dont care what the case looks like, as long as its functional/fits everything | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Cooler Master Elite 330 - $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 Antec Neo Eco 400C - $45 (before -15 MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 That Rosewill PSU didn't list efficiency, so that was probably pretty terrible (and thus it probably runs hot and loud). It also didn't have active power factor correction--that's a feature that doesn't really matter, but there's a strong correlation between not having APFC and being a bad PSU. There's no technical reviews (load testing, component analysis) for that kind of low-end PSU, so it's kind of hard to say what in particular could be wrong. It looked like none/few of the newegg customer reviews were for gaming systems that actually stress the components. If you're just pulling 100W from even a cruddy PSU, it's probably doing to be fine. | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
On December 13 2010 04:34 Myrmidon wrote: Get an Athlon II X3 then, if for SC2 and general use. Anyhow, for $40 or so you're not going to get a great case, but try this maybe: Cooler Master Elite 330 - $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 Antec Neo Eco 400C - $45 (before -15 MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 That Rosewill PSU didn't list efficiency, so that was probably pretty terrible (and thus it probably runs hot and loud). It also didn't have active power factor correction--that's a feature that doesn't really matter, but there's a strong correlation between not having APFC and being a bad PSU. There's no technical reviews (load testing, component analysis) for that kind of low-end PSU, so it's kind of hard to say what in particular could be wrong. It looked like none/few of the newegg customer reviews were for gaming systems that actually stress the components. If you're just pulling 100W from even a cruddy PSU, it's probably doing to be fine. can you link the athlon ii x3, sorry i'm a total noob and i see 3 different ones with different prices on newegg? and also the ram you were talking about, i checked it out but again.. total noob | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Wait a minute, aren't you overclocking the CPU? If not, you don't need the Hyper 212+. edit: if overclocking, you probably want 1600 MHz RAM like this for $55. If not, a normal 1333 MHz kit even with no heatspreaders is probably fine, like this or this. | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
On December 13 2010 04:44 Myrmidon wrote: do i need too? i'm really not looking for anything crazy, i mean i played on low gfx before and was fine, (obviously expecting to not be on low) but yeah? im confused They're all the same physical chip, just with different preconfigured stock frequencies. At those prices, then the 450 is obviously the best. Wait a minute, aren't you overclocking the CPU? If not, you don't need the Hyper 212+.  | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Retail boxed CPUs come with their own heatsink/fan, so you don't need a higher-performance aftermarket CPU cooler like the Hyper 212+. I thought you were overclocking, since that would be the reason to get an aftermarket cooler. You can get rid of the Hyper 212+ then. | ||
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Guts
United States17 Posts
dvd drive/burner Samsung F3 1TB MSI 870A-G54 RAM Athlon II X3 450 CASE Asus GTX 460 768GB + PSU total: 578$ does this look good? is it all compatibile/going to fit? the pricing is perfect, the psu and case are much improved... i wont be overclocking.. so yeah good?  EDIT: should i swap out that motherboard? the reviews are kinda iffy looking? any suggestions? halp additional edit: the ram/dvd drive were changed... still confused on which mobo i should get :\ edit: yeh this mobo is legit... so everything will be in working order/case is right dimensions? lookin for a green light here | ||
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
i am planning on upgrading my system, but i think to rly get something going i need a new board. Currently my motherboard has an AM2 socket [MSI K9N] and i think there is not much room for upgrading my system to run smoothly, but i can be totally wrong here^^ My system apart from the board is: Athlon X2 4200+ 2GB DDR2 RAM Windows XP GeForce 8600GTS bequiet! 430W Pure Power 500 GB HDD SATA Samsung 7200rpm It would be nice to get a statement of somebody who knows something about Hardware ( i am noob^^ ) and i think i am right in here  My budget is rly low (as usual xD) so which system would be cheap but running SC2 smoothly at 1920x1080? I guess I have to get a new board though | ||
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Illadelph4
United States51 Posts
On December 13 2010 03:58 Myrmidon wrote: Here's a somewhat altered list: + Show Spoiler + Phenom II X4 955 + Gigabyte AM3 mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564585 EVGA GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593 A-Data 2x2GB DDR3 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211409 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Asus CD/DVD drive/burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Seasonic S12II Bronze 520W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 Cooler Master 690ii Advanced case + Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.546483.11-119-216 You don't need 6 cores for gaming, so a Phenom II X4 makes more sense. Or you could go with Intel and a Core i5-760 and corresponding LGA 1156 mobo. (or wait a month and go with one of Intel's 2nd gen Core i5 with a corresponding LGA 1155 mobo) 500W is plenty enough for any single-GPU system. There would be cheaper options than this, but the quality is great, especially for the price. The Truepower New was not a bad choice, but not necessary unless you were looking to replace CPU+mobo and run 2 GPUs one day. There's a decent case above. 4 GB RAM is enough for gaming. If you need more, you can always grab 4 GB more whenever--RAM upgrades are pretty trivial anyway. I don't know about which brand and models of GTX 570 are best, but EVGA is always a safe choice. That model has lifetime warranty upon registration for about $10 more than the other cards were going for--the GTX 570 is plenty powerful enough to last a while, so you might as well go with that. so heres my final build. how does this look? Motherboard + CPU combo: Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760 + GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.570318 $309.99 Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274&cm_re=gskill-_-20-231-274-_-Product $54.99 HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-152-185&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo $69.99 CD/DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 $19.99 Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 $64.99 CASE and OS combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.546483.11-119-216 169.98 Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593 EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $359.99 subtotal: $1049.92 wud this processor be better than this combo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564585 ive been comtemplating just changing to INTEL for once since ive always been AMD but my build above is what i would buy if i were to go intel... what are your thoughts? is the list above good 2 go? also, how does it compare to the amd combo i have above instead? | ||
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