EPTOptical Drive
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276
Is this "RW"? Can I write CDs and DVDs?
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
Optical Drive LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 Is this "RW"? Can I write CDs and DVDs? | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
On November 27 2010 11:30 Mahaa wrote: Tossing the info in a spoiler to save space. I was planning on waiting until summer to get a new comp, but mine decided that it wants to crap out now (long story). + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? Cheaper is better. I will be upgrading the computer later on - looking for something about $600 What are you using it for? Gaming, programming (Comp Sci major next year), internet, papers What is your upgrade cycle? Hoping to make this last 4 years, so upgrade after 2 yrs i would imagine. When do you plan on building it? In the next month Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? I'm not actually sure on this one - can i pull it off of my current HP computer (it came w/ vista and i upgraded it to Win7 with one of the upgrade disks Microsoft sells). If you think i do please don't include it in the price above Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? Microcenter or newegg, i would like to use Microcenter though. Also, i have a power supply in my current computer that I'm wondering if i can use: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171018 Heres what i'm thinking about doing, but i've never done this before so i'm sure theres some errors in this Processor Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition $160 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325874 Motherboard MSI 785G-E53 AM3 785G ATX .01$ http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html RAM Corsair 4GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 2GB Memory Modules) - $79 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0318703 Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX460 768MB - $160 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342001 HD - Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7,200RPM SATA $50 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0347353 Already have a power supply Case – will pick later Do not get Western Digital Blue line hard drives. Look for a WD Black instead. Since this is going to be your system drive, you really don't want to skimp on performance. If you need more storage space, add it later with cheap WD green drives. There have been a couple of reliability scares in the last few years with Seagate drives, so people are gravitating towards the other brands. Samsung Spinpoint F3 is a very good alternative to Western Digital Black drives. | ||
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Mahaa
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
AMD Athlon II 220 Dual Core Processor ATI Radeon HD 4200 (Integrated) 6GB RAM 1TB Hard Drive Thanks | ||
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zzaaxxsscd
United States626 Posts
No - this one is read only. There are plenty of DVD burners on Newegg around the $20 mark, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334 On November 29 2010 04:43 Mahaa wrote: I've started building mine, but I don't feel 100% comfortable with the wiring things to the power supply, is there anything that i could do that would just fry the entire thing? just keep the power cord unplugged (from your power strip), and flip the switch on the PS to "0" (off) while assembling, you should be fine On November 29 2010 05:49 GrayArea wrote: I purchased a desktop computer with the following stats and am wondering how well it will run SC2? Specifically, on what settings will I be able to run SC2? Here are the stats: AMD Athlon II 220 Dual Core Processor ATI Radeon HD 4200 (Integrated) 6GB RAM 1TB Hard Drive Thanks not too well I'm afraid - my wife has a similar machine and it struggles even at 1440x900 on low if you're lucky, you may be able to unlock cores/cache on the CPU, but the integrated graphics are a huge liability (see here about unlocking ) | ||
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United States122 Posts
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
I'm considering GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard but I noticed it does not seem to have 2 x16 SLI slots, and says it is crossfire ready, but does not seem to be SLI ready. I am considering to get the GTX 460, which seems to only ever be "SLI support ready." So, shouldn't I get a different motherboard then, in case I ever want to double up the GPU? (If so, maybe a suggestion?) Also, there are many GTX 460 cards and I can't figure out which to get. I want the 1GB version, but I saw that some of them are different brands and some also say 128-bit while others are 192-bit. (edit: I see that all the 1GB version are 128-bit and 756mb ones are 192-bit), varying "core clock" and "shader clock" even though they are all 1GB 128-bit GTX 460 Fermi, and even varying prices on seemingly the same exact card just with a slight different word "AMP added on" (with that I'm specifically referring to: this and this. Some are different brands... Is there a favored brand? Also, regarding the MOBO I linked to above, how can it be crossfire ready when there is only one SLI 2.0 x16 slot (I thought that's where the GPU has to plug in to)? I really hope I get answers by tonight  Thanks | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
I am planning to upgrade my computer my budget is around ~$400 CDN, unfortunately I'm not too computer savvy. So I'm just going to post the computer specs that was recommended by OP and you guys can make suggestions. Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3530 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222 GIGABYTE GA-H55M-UD2H LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128421 SAPPHIRE 100296HDMI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102855 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 Grand Total: $397.20 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The P55 chipset does not have the capability to run x16 x16. You'll only get this if the motherboard has a nf200 chip on it and these boards usually retail for $200 or more. If you want x16 x16, you are going to have to get a socket 1366 CPU and x58 motherboard. The Gigabyte P55 USB3 has 2x PCI-E x16 slots but it will only run two cards at x8 x8. Nvidia requires manufacturers to pay them a premium if they want to have their motherboard SLI capable. Are you confused just because a video card says SLI Support ready? It just means that the card itself has connectors for you to use a SLI bridge. You can still plug it into a board that is not SLI ready. You're just not going to be able to plug in two of them in SLI mode. EVGA is the most well known and trusted brand in America. They offer a lifetime warranty on most of their cards upon registration and they have excellent customer support that is based in America. A GTX 460 is a GTX 460. Manufacturers will use different names to distinguish between the stock version, overclocked versions, and versions that have a modified PCB or cooler etc. AMP is just a name for their overclocked and non-stock cooler. For example, EVGA uses Superclocked, SC, and FTW for their overclocked cards. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you have DDR3 RAM rated at 1600 MHz, you can run it at 1333 MHz (lower, so easier to do). That should be the default anyway. SLI is the name of Nvidia's multi-GPU technology. Crossfire is AMD's (ATI's) multi-GPU technology. Nvidia GPUs can only do SLI, while AMD's cards only do Crossfire. In most cases, it's not worth worrying about multiple-GPU setups unless you like having top-end overkill hardware and/or are playing on resolutions over 1920x1200. If you need better graphics performance in two years, just get a new card in two years. + Show Spoiler [edit: just read skyR's post] + Sometimes Crossfire or SLI will give you a nominally better price/performance ratio than a single card, but that doesn't factor in the extra price for a motherboard, PSU, and case (cooling) to handle multiple GPUs. I'm not sure where you're getting 128 bits from, but the GTX 460 1GB models all have 256-bit memory buses, while the GTX 460 768MB models all have 192-bit memory buses. Several different manufacturers buy GPU chips, memory, and other components, and then put graphics cards together to sell under their name. There are usually slight differences between models by the same manufacturer and between manufacturers--you can find comparison reviews if you look around. Some of these differences may include different cooling solutions as well as differences in core and shader clocks (how fast those components are running as configured from the factory--which is tweakable by you anyway). @zerious: What are you using the computer for? I'm assuming you are keeping the old hard drive, optical drive, power supply, and case? Most motherboards these days only have one legacy PATA (IDE, the long flat ribbon cables) connector, with several SATA connectors. If the old hard drive and optical drive are both PATA, you may need to upgrade one of them. For most gaming computers, I'd recommend getting an Athlon II X3 and relatively cheap AM3 motherboard instead (saving some $60), and then get a better GPU. However, whether or not this is possible depends on your PSU. What model is the old PSU exactly? If you don't have the model number, look on the box/spec sheet to see what the rated wattage is, and current capacity on +12V, +5V, +3.3V, etc. if available. | ||
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
On November 29 2010 08:09 zerious wrote: Hey guys, I am planning to upgrade my computer my budget is around ~$400 CDN, unfortunately I'm not too computer savvy. So I'm just going to post the computer specs that was recommended by OP and you guys can make suggestions. Intel Core i3-530 Clarkdale 2.93GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3530 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115222 GIGABYTE GA-H55M-UD2H LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128421 SAPPHIRE 100296HDMI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102855 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 Grand Total: $397.20 What kind of Power Supply do you have? Just to be sure that it will be enough. I would recommend an amd system for that budget. Sold out right now, but a very good processor for its price: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103699&cm_re=phenom_2-_-19-103-699-_-Product GPU: The 4670 you chose is not very fast, you should chose a newer one. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150501&cm_re=radeon_5770-_-14-150-501-_-Product Board: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128443&Tpk=Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 For the memory i am really confused. Can you really get those ripjaws for 50 bucks? if yes thats extremely cheap. so get those fast. 370,96. | ||
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United States17 Posts
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
So, I'm feeling more comfortable with just going with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 .. I'll take your advice Myrmidon and just upgrade my GPU if need be in the future. Do you see any problems in the set up below overall? Do you think everything will be compatible and fit and all that? Case COOLER MASTER HAF 912 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Mobo GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 GPU GTX 460 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130591 PSU Antec BP550 Plus 550W Modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016 CPU Intel Core i5-760 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Optical Drive Lite-On 24X iHAS324 DVD writer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106334 OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 Thermal Cooler (Disregard told me I need this) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 And a sort of tedious question but this wasn't an originally suggested drive and I need to double check to feel safe: The optical drive I put above, do you think that's a good one? It can write but it's read speed is 16x on DVD while the original one suggested to me by Disregard in page 111 (this one) has read speed 18x. Is that a noticeable difference / is that a standard difference between writable and read only optical drives?) The GPU link I put above is GTX 460 1GB, and seems to be factory setting and the lowest price one - any problems with that? (I'm asking because anything that wasn't suggested to me by one of you guys, I feel like I need to double check). If everything is OK I'm gonna buy this. If I ever do get into the whole overclocking thing, is this set up overclockable? RAM and CPU and GPU and all (hope that question made sense)? Lastly, do you think I should buy this all tonight or wait for Cyber Monday (do you know if Monday will have probably better prices, based on your experience?) Thank you | ||
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United States122 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You don't really need thermal paste, as that's included on the stock heatsink and on any aftermarket heatsink you buy. Arctic Silver 5 isn't the latest and greatest anymore anyway. If you're overclocking a non-trivial amount, you'd want an aftermarket cooler. The Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is a popular budget option. DVD speeds are pretty much whatever, unless you're constantly reading DVDs all the time. There is integrated sound on the motherboard you can use, so you don't need a separate sound card unless you need some exotic audio I/O options or want higher-quality sound. I'd think you could find slightly better deals on newegg if you tried, including maybe some combos. There's better than the BP550 Plus for that price, especially if you don't need a modular power supply, though that should be pretty decent. | ||
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Canada6688 Posts
On November 29 2010 08:59 maxchgr wrote: Thanks skyR and Myrmidon for explaining that. So, I'm feeling more comfortable with just going with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 .. I'll take your advice Myrmidon and just upgrade my GPU if need be in the future. Do you see any problems in the set up below overall? Do you think everything will be compatible and fit and all that? And a sort of tedious question but this wasn't an originally suggested drive and I need to double check to feel safe: The optical drive I put above, do you think that's a good one? It can write but it's read speed is 16x on DVD while the original one suggested to me by Disregard in page 111 (this one) has read speed 18x. Is that a noticeable difference / is that a standard difference between writable and read only optical drives?) The GPU link I put above is GTX 460 1GB, and seems to be factory setting and the lowest price one - any problems with that? (I'm asking because anything that wasn't suggested to me by one of you guys, I feel like I need to double check). If everything is OK I'm gonna buy this. If I ever do get into the whole overclocking thing, is this set up overclockable? RAM and CPU and GPU and all (hope that question made sense)? Lastly, do you think I should buy this all tonight or wait for Cyber Monday (do you know if Monday will have probably better prices, based on your experience?) Thank you combo your items, for example http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543371 do note because the 760 is sold out, the combo link is gone so you'll have to wait until its back instock or go through other components to find the combos. also that gtx 460 is a lower end version, "SE", you want the ones that are $~190, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333&cm_re=gtx_460_1gb-_-14-125-333-_-Product also, this is a much better power supply for cheaper, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094&cm_re=seasonic_s12ii-_-17-151-094-_-Product | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
As Myrmidon mentioned onboard sound is great, no need to waste extra money on a sound card. As for the PSU, the deal is off so the price isnt that desirable anymore. Usually non-modular PSU are cheaper, so if you dont mind a little cable management, should go find better deal. edit: That Seasonic will do great justice, if you dont mind the ridiculous shipping cost. | ||
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United States122 Posts
PS, one thing that kind of irritates me is that after doing all this research, I look at HP website and I can build almost this same computer (though it doesn't give all the details of the build) for just a bit over 800 which I think my build comes out to a bit over 800 as well. ie., it lets you choose i5 760, the GT 430 1.5 GB, 1 TB HDD). Biggest apparent difference to me is their best GPU offered is GT 430 1.5GB which I don't know how well that performs. If it sucks, that'd make me happy to know  . | ||
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