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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
there are so many multithreaded apps atm for people who need extra cores. "not using cores very well" is already a thing of the past in everything except probably gaming. AMD also has that autoclock feature similar to TurboBoost that activates when 3 or less cores are working (can bump up 500MHz apparently) | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On April 26 2010 12:16 mahnini wrote: as far as i can tell the X6 will be a strong contender for its price range ($299-320 for a 3.2ghz 6 core thx). it would be a tough choice between the i7 930/860 and the 1090. preliminary benches (from asian markets) show it clocking to 4ghz as easily if not more easily than its quad core predecessors. very exciting stuff! it's still based on the worthless arch that amd has they seriously need a full revision clocks is a penis nice to show around but doesn't mean jack. Seriously AMD needs to get their shit together they compete with intel in games but everywhere else it's just shit. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On April 26 2010 12:30 semantics wrote: it's still based on the worthless arch that amd has they seriously need a full revision clocks is a penis nice to show around but doesn't mean jack. Seriously AMD needs to get their shit together they compete with intel in games but everywhere else it's just shit. um. wat. AMD isn't that far behind intel in terms of ipc. sure, if they were priced within the same range performance/price easily goes to intel but they aren't so it's pretty difficult to say that deneb plain sucks when it provides 90% performance at 80% the price and that's not taking into consideration platform costs. i also find it impressive that they are doing all this on the 45nm process and still achieving such high clocks. 50% of the price if you don't count microcenter :D | ||
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Deleted User 47542
1484 Posts
What will be exciting is AMD's bulldozer release next year that will have 4/6/8 cores, a completely new architecture, possibly an AM4 platform mobo with back support, and competitive pricing. This will probably force down Intel's Sandy Bridge pricing to something affordable, and if it doesn't I'll be making the switch to AMD. Funny how Intel is killing AMD while ATI is killing Nvidia atm. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
mahnini, I never trust chinese benchmarks. Remember those 5830 benches that were performed? looool. AMD fucking packed 6 cores into a cpu with 45nm and the cpu still has overclocking headroom. That is very impressive imho. http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u69/Phenom_OC.jpg impressive. The Thuban is a decent chip that will contend against the lower end i7s (920/930/860) which currently don't have any real competition. The Phenom II X4s are great, but they trade blows with the i5 750 ><. No matter how 'unrevolutionary' it is (who cares?) it's still a 6 core. The decision atm is probably 4 virtual vs 2 physical cores (which benchmarks will clear up) Bulldozer is either going to be SPARKLE SPARKLE AMAZING or ABSOLUTELY FUCKING TERRIBLE, yeah. It seems to be AM3 compatible as well. uh superbabo, your conclusions don't have any backing to them whatsoever... | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
the people who say the i7s will still beat it blahblahblah. a few seconds in a few benchmarks is something i would easily give up for +2 physical cores, i am sure many people would feel the same way. i mean, it's a 6 core that performs pretty closely with the i7s in multithreaded apps (might surpass it now, still waiting for reliable benches) provides on par gaming performance and costs the same amount. what's left to be seen is the temperature / power consumption numbers which may be a deal breaker but for now i think people are just being butthurt that their i7s didn't sit on the throne as long as they wanted them to. :D | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
i7 chips running lower than $300 will probably all succumb to it  I doubt hypertheaded cores will be able to stand up to actual physical cores.I kinda want to see how the quad core performs as well, though it is most likely just a 965 with that weird AMD TurboBoost. Power consumption would probably be the place I am concerned the most in (especially with overclocking. 3.8ghz on stock voltages plz!) | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
per clock intel still wins, it's why they can sell their chips for more becuase they are better. not that clock matters to much performance is performance doesn't matter how it's dressed up. Just saying AMD needs to fix their arch it's the lame boy in the corner. Although I'm not too found on intel right now hearing their new chipset will require active cooling... ramble ramble ramble | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
It's not just defective chips, since there are many, many people who succeed in unlocking the disabled AMD cores  I mean ATi has had to delay their Northern Islands GPUs and their second half 2010 refresh because of the problems TSMC and Globalfoundries have had with their 32nm processes. I believe Intel is suffering the same problem... | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
and that's not from Charlie so you can believe it. http://semiaccurate.com/2010/04/15/intels-patsburg-replace-x58-2011/ active cooling on my mobo?!?! if i want active cooling i'll use a zip tie and a tiny fan and strap that to my northbridge which is what i do use on my older p45 chipset to allow for a good oc in a silent case that isn't a typhoon to cool everything. along with this which is also a bit worrying http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/21/sandy-bridge-rumors/ but that is just a rumor so far we can see how shitty it becomes later. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611.html figures shortly after one of the writers gets into the beta | ||
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DanceDance
226 Posts
On April 26 2010 15:35 semantics wrote: oh a side note guess who did what now.. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611.html figures shortly after one of the writers gets into the beta Thank you for posting this. Nice information! | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
FINALLY Semantics: Yeah, I heard about that and just went 'wtf'. I was never excited about Sandy Bridge in the first place (since Bulldozer will RAPE IT YEAH), but that just pushed me further away from it rofl Those numbers as abyssmal ;_; | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
Ofc i only ran it at 16  resolution i noticed toms is a 16:10 i t could be a ratio bad luck thing but i wouldn't think so.games performance tend to be more tied to the raito rather then the resolution unless you get into the 2k resolution. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
and I don't even like those either. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
Also what was their testing method i only skimmed and didn't find it i noticed fps in games vs fps in replays tend to differ. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
1ghz = 100 frames? lol... | ||
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