Actually this report is disapointing on another side, the graphics.

I mean, there have been changes in Zerg building models (like the pool for exemple), and here, it's just the old model.
Also, at the beggining, we see a dark pylon being built, look how the anniation suck, when it gets built, it just appear from nowhere.

ReCharge

Philippines505 Posts

June 19 2009 10:20 GMT

#162

Damn, I actually think this game is better than JD vs Bisu on Heartbreak ridge.

+ Show Spoiler +

Force Field Imba
Warp Ray Imba
Baneling Imba
Warp Imba
Parasite Imba
Damn Blizzard is so IMBA!

alien3456

United States115 Posts

June 19 2009 10:20 GMT

#163

I hate the whole "Player 1 just brought out X unit! He decimated Player 2! But Player 2 brought out Y unit! It's a perfect counter to unit X!"

The game looks too static where each unit has a perfect counter strategy. I know they're just demonstrating the new units, but if the game is anything like that, it's gonna be a battle of rock paper scissors.

Nullifier and its forcefield look stupid and imbalanced.

iMate

Canada263 Posts

June 19 2009 10:23 GMT

#164

On June 19 2009 19:20 alien3456 wrote:
I hate the whole "Player 1 just brought out X unit! He decimated Player 2! But Player 2 brought out Y unit! It's a perfect counter to unit X!"

The game looks too static where each unit has a perfect counter strategy. I know they're just demonstrating the new units, but if the game is anything like that, it's gonna be a battle of rock paper scissors.

Nullifier and its forcefield look stupid and imbalanced.

Still like 4months of balance =p and no game gets released with perfect balance.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

June 19 2009 10:26 GMT

#165

On June 19 2009 17:19 Ancestral wrote:

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My memory may be wrong, but isn't David Kim aka Karune? And didn't Gs.Naruto (or some other tl.netter perhaps) beat him in SCII?

no http://starcraft2wiki.net/sc2wiki/index.php?title=Blizzard_Staff

DN2perfectionGM

United States233 Posts

June 19 2009 10:26 GMT

#166

all the spells and abilities displayed were eye candies and also made me feel that sc2 might be really fun to play!

couple pointers: it still seems a bit slow. from what i've heard before, this isnt the fastest right?

i think it is pointless to talk about balancing at this point, but I did notice few things. There are so much offensive weapons for both races. Maybe that's why we don't see drawn out, BIG armies dueling out in any of the battle reports. There are simply too many opportunities that a player doesn't have to just expand early and mass up. And battles seem to be dominated easily because there are many explosive, tide-changing units. This could be exciting but it could also be exploited by progamers I think. Progamers might come up with so many cheese tactics.

Overall, very excited!

DN2perfectionGM

United States233 Posts

June 19 2009 10:34 GMT

#167

But then again, this battle report seems scripted to show off all the cool abilities in hindsight. Maybe it is too early to tell how players are even gonna play this out.

And maybe blizzard chose to play the game slower to make it easier to show how abilities are implemented.

So maybe one of the only definitive things is that these abilities are fucking COOL and we just have to wait and play and stop thinking too much T.T

despite

Bulgaria105 Posts

June 19 2009 10:41 GMT

#168

Watched the game and I think stalker's blink cooldown needs to be longer. It's supposed to be used for harass imo, not for escaping every single zergling surround. They only die against melee units when the player does something else (like macro) and that's only an issue for slow players.

I also think queens were not able to fulfill their role as base defenders. On a second thought they failed big time.

stroggos

New Zealand1543 Posts

June 19 2009 10:43 GMT

#169

i counted 1 terrible terrible damage and 1 huge damage in this battle report

Adeny

Norway1233 Posts

June 19 2009 10:47 GMT

#170

TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE.

Daniri

387 Posts

June 19 2009 11:03 GMT

#171

Played WoW lately?

I quit for a reason.

You quitting means nothing. I resubscribed for a reason.

hideo

Canada1641 Posts

June 19 2009 11:09 GMT

#172

Wow... the force field is like an early-game, highly spammable stasis field.

And it seems to me that the tech trees seem to be whole lot more diverse than starcraft? I guess that might explain why there are so many gases at each expo.

Kim_Hyun_Han

706 Posts

June 19 2009 11:09 GMT

#173

NICE GAME OVERALL SC 2 LOOKS AMAZING
BUT!

Wth is that with the phoenix?

its stops movement so stupidly, and u cant even movin shot

seriously, that was oh i cant even type it here affraid of bans

z]Benny

Romania253 Posts

June 19 2009 11:11 GMT

#174

I'm not worried about balance and all that. What i'm worried about though is every unit having it's own special ability or abilities, which is pretty annoying. There can be no macro or massive armies when each unit has a special ability and each little shit can blow up or mind control or whatever.

Seriously, looking from a distance, the way the game's built now, there simply cannot be "macro wars".

ZenDeX

Philippines2916 Posts

June 19 2009 11:16 GMT

#175

On June 19 2009 20:11 z]Benny wrote:
I'm not worried about balance and all that. What i'm worried about though is every unit having it's own special ability or abilities, which is pretty annoying. There can be no macro or massive armies when each unit has a special ability and each little shit can blow up or mind control or whatever.

Seriously, looking from a distance, the way the game's built now, there simply cannot be "macro wars".

Obviously you don't play enough terran...

On June 19 2009 19:18 MrRey wrote:
Actually this report is disapointing on another side, the graphics.

I mean, there have been changes in Zerg building models (like the pool for exemple), and here, it's just the old model.
Also, at the beggining, we see a dark pylon being built, look how the anniation suck, when it gets built, it just appear from nowhere.

What do you expect in a PREVIEW of a game?

z]Benny

Romania253 Posts

June 19 2009 11:35 GMT

#176

On June 19 2009 20:16 lolaloc wrote:

Obviously you don't play enough terran...

Hmm that's not fair. Terran's units' abilities are somewhat more restricted (eg. siege, mines w/e) but compare that to being able to lift things up, and force field and every little unit having a special ability. It just seems very wrong to me right now. Hope i'm wrong.

I watched the HD version again, it's pretty cool. Though it's obviously scripted since the Z placed his banelings there and the commentator which is now Browden says "oh apparently not much of a surprise, he must've had an overlord somewhere". So either the game was scripted, or that damn korean hacks!

Also, I deeply hate the way roaches fire. It's 100% warcraft3. I hate warcraft3

Mastermind

Canada7096 Posts

June 19 2009 11:41 GMT

#177

I am so excited to play protoss!!

ZenDeX

Philippines2916 Posts

June 19 2009 11:41 GMT

#178

On June 19 2009 20:35 z]Benny wrote:

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It's easy to dispatch units using a skill like anti-grav since they're also vulnerable.

Restricted? It seems you didn't have your mutas irradiated ever. It's like rendering your whole muta army useless if terran get it so early.

Roach projectiles are not 100% warcraft3. I don't know where you got that number.

Zabestrial

United States194 Posts

June 19 2009 11:44 GMT

#179

AWSEOME!!!!

z]Benny

Romania253 Posts

June 19 2009 11:47 GMT

#180

What do you mean where i got that number? It's just my impression, that it looks a lot like warcraft 3. Also the zeal attack looks a lot like that.

Anyways, maybe it's just because this game was scripted and that's why it looks so weird. It gave me the impression that macro wars will be tough to achieve. Cause in this game for example 15 minutes into the game the Z had like 30 lings and nothing else - but i guess that was to showcase the Collossus or something. It might just be that i'm drawing pretty limited conclusions based on limited knowledge. But i don't think the game will be faster than this, i think this is the highest speed. Look at how fast the upgraded zerglings move, if they'd move any faster than that you couldn't even track them on your screen.