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latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 09:20:42
April 17 2009 09:14 GMT
#241
Please get rid of the black creep. It's so hard to spot non-glowing units on a black background. For the love of humanity get rid of the black creep!!!

Also the death animations still aren't always clear. When marines and marauders are bunched up it's hard to tell which unit is actually dying, as all the colors get blurred together. A 2D game with 256 colors should not have better contrast than 3D game with hundreds of millions of colors.

Also what prevents a nighthawk from reaping absolute havoc over a zerg player's mineral line? I can see a multitasking gamer sending 3 nighthawks to all 3 zerg bases and annihilating his entire economy in a few seconds.
Moo
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17768 Posts
April 17 2009 09:30 GMT
#242
On April 17 2009 03:33 crabsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 03:29 Lobbo wrote:
On April 17 2009 03:22 crabsman wrote:
I'm pretty sure this wasn't on fastest.


will there be "speed control?" because I will not buy this slow game if this was the fastest possible.


I'm almost 100% sure blizzard said there would be.


I'm almost 100% sure there won't be speed control in SC2, just like in WC3.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
awsum
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden54 Posts
April 17 2009 09:40 GMT
#243
I have lost all hope for sc2 now
"Killing Gnatsies"
hsp!
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany3 Posts
April 17 2009 09:42 GMT
#244
Terran early game really seems to be quite nerfed right now... I got to admit that I don't really like the concept of the Medivac too. Well, maybe I'll get used to it eventually...
You never get a second chance to make a first impression
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
April 17 2009 10:02 GMT
#245
On April 17 2009 18:30 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 03:33 crabsman wrote:
On April 17 2009 03:29 Lobbo wrote:
On April 17 2009 03:22 crabsman wrote:
I'm pretty sure this wasn't on fastest.


will there be "speed control?" because I will not buy this slow game if this was the fastest possible.


I'm almost 100% sure blizzard said there would be.


I'm almost 100% sure there won't be speed control in SC2, just like in WC3.

There is speed control in WC3.
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
April 17 2009 10:09 GMT
#246
What is Blizzard's lore explanation for the Terran introduction of medivacs and removal of medics? Too many pretty women being killed off?

Also, to preempt the inevitable: Terrans are imbalanced!
Moo
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 10:13:31
April 17 2009 10:10 GMT
#247
I'm pretty sure they played on faster and not fastest, they've claimed that the alpha/beta builds are played in faster earlier.

And i really like the Nighthawk, thats another one of those units - much like the banelings -- that makes you go "WOW" or "holyshit", needed more "wow"-factor in SC2.
Now if they only increased the missile speed a little bit and made them TARGETABLE, it would bring another layer of skill to the game as players could kill the missiles before they reached their targets. Please blizzard make it happen

---

I enjoyed the battle report alot, we also got to see some rather big battles compared to BR1, even though they barely reached 100 supply ^
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 10:19:34
April 17 2009 10:19 GMT
#248
The terran's early game doesn't suck. They don't have anything that can beat an equivalent cost of zerglings or zealots (for small armys) They're forced to bunker up until they get helions or something.

I think that's the way it's always been though. In starcraft four marines with stim and two medics can't beat twelve speedlings or three zealots, and firebats are rarely used in professional play.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
April 17 2009 10:20 GMT
#249
Wow, spine crawlers are so bitchy, their animation is so gay and the little thingy looks more likely to tickle me than anally violate me like sunks do.

Also lol @ the animation of the larva popping off the hatch after the bunker rush, looks like they got shot out of a cannon. Also there was no queen animation to show that they started being built so I didn't even notice it happened the first time.

D-8 charges were way too small to notice unless I was looking for it, especially in the mess that was that battle.
u gotta sk8
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 10:21:53
April 17 2009 10:20 GMT
#250
On April 17 2009 18:42 hsp! wrote:
Terran early game really seems to be quite nerfed right now... I got to admit that I don't really like the concept of the Medivac too. Well, maybe I'll get used to it eventually...


Well you can't say it is quite nerfed unless some pros or decent players let it a try . They were practicily throwing units on to each other with little micro . Also wasn't there an addon that lets you build twice the marines i think the terran build only the ones which were for updates , correct me if i'm wrong ? Reaper's mines looks like they can be a good support early game against mass lings /banelings .
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 17 2009 10:22 GMT
#251
Finally watched it, screw the Blizzard downloader.

Some thoughts:
- I still have trouble with the game's readability. I honestly didn't realize reapers threw mines until I read about it here.
- There's really no need for an exploding hatchery raining down blood for a full 3 seconds.
- Burrowed units must not leave a dark crater when unburrowing or dying. It's no use at all, but makes me think there are more units burrowed. I had trouble with this even in HD, but imagine it on Youtube.
- The overlays are very useful, although they lack a live APM counter. Still, progamers will be even more unlikely to release replays now
- Zerglings hopping around look weird. I'm used to them resembling dogs. In SC2, they are more like frogs. Can't they just... run?
- Most units seem to move quite slowly. Speed upgraded zerglings and hydras are ultra fast on the other hand, especially on creep.
- I would have very much liked to see mutas, medivacs, nydus worms and the actual use of the queen.
- As has been said, both players blow and there were no large scale battles at all. If these players are the best Blizzard can muster, I wonder how they want to develop properly for e-sport / players with actual skill. About time the beta comes out so that decent players can point out some necessary changes for a higher skill level.
- The commentary was weak for my taste. I don't need anybody to tell me what I'm seeing on the screen; I want to know strenghts and weaknesses of different units, what the abilities do and why certain actions are taken. Also, the players' bases were never shown and base building was not explained at all.
- As a noob player myself, I'm so looking forward to being able to select my whole army at once to move it around and attack-move properly. Whenever I attack-move a large zerg army in Broodwar, the units run in a long line and the first ones are already being slaughtered while the last ones are still far away.
- Would be exciting if seeker missiles could be attacked by anti-air. Not automatically though, only if you right-click them. If you misclick, your units run towards the missile instead of away and are blown up.
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
April 17 2009 10:32 GMT
#252
I wonder why did they make banelings not roll as they did previously ;/
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
April 17 2009 10:40 GMT
#253
graphics look much improved
banelings seem overpowered
nighthawk seems overpowered
zerg lacks air sniping units
Once again back is the incredible!
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 17 2009 10:44 GMT
#254
Why should the zerg have air sniping units? The terran and protoss have never had air sniping units.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
April 17 2009 10:45 GMT
#255
On April 17 2009 19:40 PobTheCad wrote:
graphics look much improved
banelings seem overpowered
nighthawk seems overpowered
zerg lacks air sniping units


hydralisks??
hi
zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
April 17 2009 10:49 GMT
#256
This thread is hilarious. TL, never change
themineralpatch.com -- twitter.com/inged
Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
April 17 2009 10:53 GMT
#257
On April 17 2009 16:29 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Things that occured to me:



I want to see a more macrooriented game... it felt like two noobies battled out with cute small micro armies plus a fast expansion for 15 min. But perhaps that's how SC2 is going to play out? My guess(hope) is that the players were mediocre.



oh yeah , me 2
im still buggin about how much of screen changes it has, with macro simplified ;/
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-17 11:19:38
April 17 2009 11:18 GMT
#258
On April 17 2009 19:44 scwizard wrote:
Why should the zerg have air sniping units? The terran and protoss have never had air sniping units.

protoss had psi storm(and maelstrom) , t had irridate and cloaked wraiths
point is zerg needs air snipers for medivac ; t could counter m&medivac with the same and/or tanks , toss can just use psi storm what can zerg do except take it up the butt? or do lurks still have that ridiculous 13 range? (i don't think banelings would be effective vs a massive group of infantry , i think they will die before hitting their target)
Once again back is the incredible!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
April 17 2009 11:41 GMT
#259
oh yes that was great
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
April 17 2009 11:44 GMT
#260
Terran's army control was frustrating, but he was clearly the superior player from those 2 games I've seen.

I think the Terran (and me) seriously missed medics this game.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
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