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Drizzit
Germany26 Posts
On April 17 2009 20:44 Aphelion wrote: I think the Terran (and me) seriously missed medics this game. He could have built Medivacs. I don't see why he didn't since he had a lot of biological units running around....(reaper/marauder/marines). | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
And I also would have liked to see 2 corruptors to fend off those banshees. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 17 2009 19:40 PobTheCad wrote: graphics look much improved banelings seem overpowered nighthawk seems overpowered zerg lacks air sniping units The graphics are even waaay better when you play it IRL. Banelings suck in late game because they have like 10 hp, it's like you're massing scourge or something vs mass corsairs  They are good vs 2-3 corsairs but after that they suck.Nighthawk is basically like the science vessel, except they buffed irradiate a bit and removed emp AND matrix shield????? Hydralisks damage air like fucking shit, their base damage is 20 I think and +6 to air. | ||
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Alizee-
United States845 Posts
I know this isn't sc1, but if he didn't go air wouldn't even a couple tanks help a lot with defending his natural? I thought the units were pretty recognizable. Hydras slithered around making them stand out, zerglings very fish like and super fast and stood out, roaches were big bulky dudes so I could tell what those were...banelings..big green guys marines especially with shields it was like oh yeah, so just really cool.I think I noticed more flaws in their play(based on sometimes them doing things really well and sometimes really poorly)but the game looks really solid. I'm really waiting for beta, but it seems like things are being delayed so much.. the whole beta key deal with april 1st and just now are getting battle report 2. Still though hopefully beta is rolling out soon. I definitely liked that map though with the tension of the rocks....I seriously thought the map was like tiny choke, slightly larger, but still small natural choke but then with the rocks I was like ooooh he's screwed. | ||
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AdunToridas
Germany380 Posts
On April 17 2009 19:49 zeox wrote: This thread is hilarious. TL, never change Lol, you're so damn right ^^ | ||
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exeprime
United Kingdom643 Posts
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 17 2009 21:30 Rice wrote: how can people bitch at the commentators, I think they did an excellent job in terms of keeping people interested and helping people follow what is going on. Yeah I think they did a way better job than the last Battle Report, I don't really like Dustin saying "What a great move by the <race> player" over and over Except that they did it pretty clean imo | ||
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anTi_
United States499 Posts
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AdunToridas
Germany380 Posts
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Bob123
Korea (North)259 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Gameplay looks solid and that is people should be pumped about, greatest RTS since SC is incoming later this year! | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
On April 17 2009 21:13 Zoler wrote: The graphics are even waaay better when you play it IRL. Banelings suck in late game because they have like 10 hp, it's like you're massing scourge or something vs mass corsairs They are good vs 2-3 corsairs but after that they suck.Nighthawk is basically like the science vessel, except they buffed irradiate a bit and removed emp AND matrix shield????? Hydralisks damage air like fucking shit, their base damage is 20 I think and +6 to air. Banelings are neither overpowered nor useless late game. They have a speed upgrade at tier3 which allows them to mix in really well with zerglings for example. Though obviously they aren't the way to go against an army full of hellions for example since they would all just get toasted immediately. It's all about placement. I'm pretty sure they'll be a key unit in many Zerg matchups, but not an absolute necessity. I'll add that Roaches also have a tier3 upgrade that increases their regeneration speed but I think that upgrade will only be useful in some circumstances. If your going up against tanks it seems pretty useless to me, but if your fighting a mixed infantry army and your upgrades are on par, this upgrade would give your army a huge boost. Roaches are really an updated, more specific, hydra. While the new hydra is more like the old Goliath (but more expensive). Concerning air "sniping". Well yeah the scourge is out, but it depends what you consider sniping. From what I saw, the corruptor did some whoopass damage and didn't require any tech besides lair. You just have to pop up two and you've got yourself a little anti-drop fleet (or observer killers or whatever) | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
But damn this BR makes me so hyped about the potential of the game and do hope I get a lucky beta key! | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10801 Posts
Banelings in lategame will probably still be very viable for flanks and devastating Economy drops/nydus. Would be pretty imba if you could just charge them headlong into a lategame army  . They deliver their damage insanely quick, other units need some time to actually kill something, Banelings just make *poof* and gone is/are the targets. | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
On April 17 2009 23:12 Velr wrote: Afaik the Roach regen upgrade is T2? At least it was there the last time i saw the upgrade mentioned somewhere. Dunno, in the leipzig build it was T3. | ||
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Nitro68
France470 Posts
@13.20 the zergling surround the depot at the high grass entrance of the T base. Then when the Zerg player moves them, they keep the "circle" formation. So it seems you can still have "manual formation". | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On April 17 2009 21:30 Rice wrote: how can people bitch at the commentators, I think they did an excellent job in terms of keeping people interested and helping people follow what is going on. I just hated how Browder kept calling the map "the board" | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
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L0thar
987 Posts
On April 17 2009 15:41 prOxi.swAMi wrote: The game is looking fun but Terran early game just seems so boring. There's no finesse, no panache. The infantry are just seriously not exciting. Exactly. While marines with medics was very exciting and fun to play combo with great synegry, the marines with marauders looked absolutely dull and generic. First unit is cheaper and deal less ranged damage while second is more expensive an deal more ranged damage. Where is some diversity? Stimpak is useless, the slowing effect didn't seem very useful eithet (against masses of units). Terrible, terrible unit design...what a great move to take off almost all fun from the early game for Terran players. On the other hand, Zerg early game looked pretty cool. Lings are still generic as ever, but the banelings ambushes and burrow micro with roaches seems very fun. On April 17 2009 15:42 AttackZerg wrote: Dude If I go 2 hat speedling/muta against a 1rax terran I am 100% in control for at least a while. Same with this low eco build. Low econ build? The Zerg has his expansion for 4-5 minutes when the Terran was finaly able to expand himself. Only his innability to build more drones with the excess minerals he had and typical mistake - trying to finish his opponent by suiciding a small groups of units for nothing instead of massing and expanding - costed him the game. But my rant wasn't meant to adress balance as much as the total dullness of Terran gameplay, especially early game. On April 17 2009 16:03 ManWithCheese wrote: 1. Are you seriously basing an entire match ups for a game you never played based off 2 games played by 2 average people on an ever changing game? Marine/Marauder is an extremely potent combination and in this particular map reapers also fair well. 2. I'm sorry that you've taken this game so seriously you couldn't enjoy just watching the battle report. 3. The terran player choose not to get any medivacs which would allow the use of frequent stimming, and in your particular scenario you know the terran could just use a scan. 4. These aren't professionals at the top of their game, accept this and enjoy watching starcraft 2 gameplay. 1. I'm basing my opinion on Terran early game from the game Blizzard chose to present to public to show how awesome SC2 is. Don't you agree that they definitely tried to choose one of their best games? It makes you wonder how their worse game must looked like. Also Karune answer to question "what can Terran do early game against Zerg without medic" was something along the lines "they can hide in their base behind supply depot and bunkrers and tech up". And now we are presented with game which exactly demostrate this, the impotence of early Terran unit in the field. 3. Point taken, my bad forgeting that. On the other hand, how many scanners do you think Terran will have with the danger of banelings popping out of ground anywhere in the middle of your army? Imagine playing against hold lurkers from tier 1. 4. How can I enjoy SC2 gameplay, if the game looks very boring for my favourite race? I don't care Terran won both BR, I would rather see them raped both times while looking fun to play than this  . | ||
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