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ProTech
United States440 Posts
LoTV gutted the core game-play and isn't fun by any stretch of the imagination, so naturally things were going to implode eventually, meanwhile BroodWar domestically within Korea is far more popular than LoTV has ever been and even will be. LoTV is simply a waiting-room for the next iteration of StarCraft whether that's an RTS or a different Genre altogether. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1254 Posts
On January 23 2026 21:32 ProTech wrote: Not sure why this comes to a surprise for some people, StarCraft has not felt like StarCraft since the launch of LoTV. LoTV gutted the core game-play and isn't fun by any stretch of the imagination, so naturally things were going to implode eventually, meanwhile BroodWar domestically within Korea is far more popular than LoTV has ever been and even will be. LoTV is simply a waiting-room for the next iteration of StarCraft whether that's an RTS or a different Genre altogether. LotV was released over 10 years ago btw... | ||
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Agh
United States1027 Posts
On January 24 2026 00:49 Balnazza wrote: LotV was released over 10 years ago btw... Even though it's just a vent post a lot of people share the frustrations, just not particularly for the same reasons. Popularity doesn't mean quality, there are a lot of "popular" things that are either straight up objectively bad, or have gaping flaws. WoL launched with mules, forcefields, and multiple free units. (Not to mention the shoebox maps and several other things). These were fundamental flaws that needed to be changed in some way. This isn't hindsight either, myself and others pointed this out and expressed our opinions the second we got our hands on the beta. Many were hopeful for HotS, myself included. Instead we're met with even more free units (swarm hosts), the widow mine (probably the biggest offender in the entirety of the game), and a turbo roll of duct tape called the mothership core in an attempt to band aid some of the issues P faced. Oh let's not forget the warhound.. which thankfully got axed courtesy of yours truly. All of the above snowballed the mass exodus of the playerbase. Which is saying a lot since this is also the point where WCS was starting to throw money around. LotV comes around, all of the above still exists less the mothership core. No changes to curb the frustrating aspects of the game, and instead they just keep piling it on. We get the liberator, lurker, disruptor, and droppable sieged tanks. Can't forget the nuclear speed of the game thanks to the economy changes. (Additional workers and supply increase of town halls). Combine all this with not monetizing the game until it's practically on it's deathbed, a terrible custom game interface, and no social aspect and you get the sad state of RTS, where the most known and recognized title can't even make it to the largest multi tournament event. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1254 Posts
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TeamMamba
165 Posts
On January 23 2026 10:04 Balnazza wrote: Not really reports, just rumours. That I also never fully bought tbh. Why would Blizzard be the "mimimi"-lord about SC2 when OW2 was and is at EWC, even as part as their official circuit if I recall correctly? Just a random guess it’s might be OW2 still a relative new game and still making money for Blizzard. Whereas SC2 is making close to zero for Blizzard | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States713 Posts
On January 23 2026 10:04 Balnazza wrote: Not really reports, just rumours. That I also never fully bought tbh. Why would Blizzard be the "mimimi"-lord about SC2 when OW2 was and is at EWC, even as part as their official circuit if I recall correctly? They tried to negotiate circuit support from EWC. EWC supports other events outside of the EWC to a degree, but they aren't looking to be the sole backer of any esport. If you wanted, you could give them credit for trying to support our scene more. You could also argue their interference was a net negative, considering they had already been established as frustrating to deal with (I know OW2 is there, but there's a history for TOs and SC2) and SC2 was already hanging by a thread due to its viewership so any amount of extra frustration, even well-intended, was just an "ugh nevermind". Of course, no one who was actually present at these negotiations would shed light on what specifically went down. I only bring up this Blizzard-EWC 2025 clarification because people just assumed it was EWC's fault for the delay. Anything else, like why we aren't back in 2026, is mostly an unknown...except that our viewership wasn't great and developer support is basically non-existent, two things any TO definitely wants. | ||
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mathphyswithvic
2 Posts
Chat interface is not comparable to bw or wc3. Clans are missing clan wars option and some ladder with points and rewards for clan of the month. Maybe two ladders, most active and most powerful. 2v2/3v3 etc, still miss the build on creep of ally option. There are many quick fixes but no developers in the pipeline unfortunately. | ||
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