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StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! - Page 2

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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
November 06 2025 18:37 GMT
#21
I was hoping this would be like a small,20k tournament for each game like prior pre 2010 Blizzcons.

But this kinda gives me the vibes of Nintendo World Championships, where instead of the focus on the pros in each specific game, its more like whos the best blizzard classic gamer, mastering several different discplines.

Beggars cant be choosers though, im glad the old games got thrown a bone. Especially from the WC3 side where it got completely overshadowed by both Starcrafts and a bad remaster.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
November 07 2025 00:51 GMT
#22
HOOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
tl.net humour: https://www.kurtvonmeier.com/blog-1/2018/1/14/on-audio-alan-watts-and-g-spencer-brown-discuss-laws-of-form
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada298 Posts
November 07 2025 03:56 GMT
#23
I'm surprised so many people are complaining about this.
Herringbone
Profile Joined February 2023
33 Posts
November 07 2025 04:16 GMT
#24
On November 07 2025 12:56 breaker1328 wrote:
I'm surprised so many people are complaining about this.


I went to bed after seeing the announcement it was coming back to Blizzcon and woke up to the details. It was pretty disappointing. But yeah, better than nothing. With a patch, this, and fingers crossed for EWC it's not too bad.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1258 Posts
November 07 2025 04:53 GMT
#25
Btw: Should this really be "just" a cross-game competition between influencers or whatever...something like this has been done earlier this year in China:

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Golden_Games_All-Round_King_Challenge

Essentially they assembled teams for all the games from the "Golden Age", aka. WC3, BW, DotA1 and Counterstrike and then those players had to play all games against each other. Atleast a fun idea
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines405 Posts
November 07 2025 05:54 GMT
#26
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing. Even if it is a 4-player invitational for 50 bucks - that's an improvement of 50 bucks compared to before.
In none of these games there is anything that could be hurt from this. At the worst, it is a bad tournament that's not fun or exciting - still an improvement to nothing.

So I hope people give it a fair chance. Don't hate it, don't be worried about it, just look forward to it...or ignore it if you want to go the "buck flizzard"-route. But don't kill the potential excitment this could bring before even anything of value is announced


It is hard to trust blizzard given their track record in the past few years.
Yuru Yuri best anime
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
November 07 2025 08:05 GMT
#27
On November 07 2025 13:53 Balnazza wrote:
Btw: Should this really be "just" a cross-game competition between influencers or whatever...something like this has been done earlier this year in China:

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Golden_Games_All-Round_King_Challenge

Essentially they assembled teams for all the games from the "Golden Age", aka. WC3, BW, DotA1 and Counterstrike and then those players had to play all games against each other. Atleast a fun idea


awful idea to be honest since those players are obviously terrible at games they dont play and they are not going to practice whole new games specifically for this tournament/challenge.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-07 08:58:49
November 07 2025 08:56 GMT
#28
On November 07 2025 17:05 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 13:53 Balnazza wrote:
Btw: Should this really be "just" a cross-game competition between influencers or whatever...something like this has been done earlier this year in China:

https://liquipedia.net/warcraft/Golden_Games_All-Round_King_Challenge

Essentially they assembled teams for all the games from the "Golden Age", aka. WC3, BW, DotA1 and Counterstrike and then those players had to play all games against each other. Atleast a fun idea


awful idea to be honest since those players are obviously terrible at games they dont play and they are not going to practice whole new games specifically for this tournament/challenge.

They are definitely not going to do that... I think people are inferring a lot here from what reads more inherently like the draft formats we've seen in starcraft before like from Team Serral and Team Dark etc at I think it was the GSL vs World intermittent event.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26255 Posts
November 07 2025 09:36 GMT
#29
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing. Even if it is a 4-player invitational for 50 bucks - that's an improvement of 50 bucks compared to before.
In none of these games there is anything that could be hurt from this. At the worst, it is a bad tournament that's not fun or exciting - still an improvement to nothing.

So I hope people give it a fair chance. Don't hate it, don't be worried about it, just look forward to it...or ignore it if you want to go the "buck flizzard"-route. But don't kill the potential excitment this could bring before even anything of value is announced

Yeah that’s how I’d see it. Hey you might not have top billing but it’s nice to be back in the tent again
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3110 Posts
November 07 2025 11:41 GMT
#30
On November 07 2025 01:06 BisuDagger wrote:
I'm the weird one here, but I'm excited for Heroes. I still play the game a ton and think it's very under appreciated. The last patch came out just recently and was massive.


you aint bad, Dagger.
hOTS one of the more underrated games. One of my favorite of all time.
No idea what the competitive scene is like right now, I never followed it tbh. But the game itself is so good and deserves continued development. I actually wanted to make a whole project around why it should be developed and push for it, but no time.

i do have to take issue with 1 thing you said tho, and it's a mistake a lot of people make. Calling something massive when they mean big. The patch does not have mass, it is digital. Let us all please follow this rule and be better Englishers OK. Thank you for volunteering for this lesson on usage. And just remember how much i agree w/u about HoTS
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 07 2025 14:06 GMT
#31
I am very happy about this. especially that wc3 is there.

I can imagine that they do such a thing this year because they dont have much to announce this year.

Maybe they show some D4 2nd expansion footage and that's it?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Cinskywind1
Profile Joined October 2016
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-07 14:48:39
November 07 2025 14:38 GMT
#32
While some of the my best SC2 memories were around the past Blizzcon events, without a yearly Circuit and qualifying matches, I'm not 100% this will have the build up/story of the older events. That said there are players at their peak now who probably never even attended a Blizzcon. While I'm on the "better than nothing" train, I'm not sure how is good for Sc2 besides exposure and maybe some game development, as I can't see this being big enough to fund several pros and caster for the whole year?

EWC was great as the prize pool still pulled in the very best players even with the limited circuit, but unless this ends up being a qualify for that, I can't see Blizzard bringing everything in house as good thing until we get some details this is a funded year long event.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3478 Posts
November 07 2025 14:52 GMT
#33
Sc2 actually have it worse than wc3 and hots, they receive patches and there're sometimes even words, heck I still cannot upload maps on eu..

Blizz have so much bad faith right now and for good reason that they're probably advised not to communicate. So, I really have got to wonder why they even announce a blizzcon, mb they have smth big to make ppl come crawling back, and sc2 being announced as a classic game for the first time, as far as I know, could mean some kind of starcraft announcement, though it'd probably be 3 years away in terms of release. I kind of wish ppl just had enough of blizz and wouldn't show up, but that would be naive of me to think would come to pass. Also, there's no way they would do a normal blizzcon since ewc sets an impossible high standard.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1258 Posts
November 07 2025 15:12 GMT
#34
On November 07 2025 14:54 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing. Even if it is a 4-player invitational for 50 bucks - that's an improvement of 50 bucks compared to before.
In none of these games there is anything that could be hurt from this. At the worst, it is a bad tournament that's not fun or exciting - still an improvement to nothing.

So I hope people give it a fair chance. Don't hate it, don't be worried about it, just look forward to it...or ignore it if you want to go the "buck flizzard"-route. But don't kill the potential excitment this could bring before even anything of value is announced


It is hard to trust blizzard given their track record in the past few years.


There is literally no expectation to have "trust" in them. It might just be a fun little event for the Blizzcon, nothing more. If you expect a million-dollar championship and then it doesn't come that isn't betraying your trust, that's just you expecting something that was never announced nor implied.

hOTS one of the more underrated games. One of my favorite of all time.
No idea what the competitive scene is like right now, I never followed it tbh. But the game itself is so good and deserves continued development. I actually wanted to make a whole project around why it should be developed and push for it, but no time.


Competitive HotS is dead since Blizzard pulled the rug under them (which btw was probably the one big scum-move Blizzard did to its competitive games, players literally lost their livelyhood without warning over night). Khaldor tried to keep it somewhat running, but as far as I now, from the four games in the Classic Cup it is by far the one that does not have any real kind of competitive scene anymore. Basically just community cups.

On November 07 2025 23:52 ejozl wrote:
Sc2 actually have it worse than wc3 and hots, they receive patches and there're sometimes even words, heck I still cannot upload maps on eu..

Blizz have so much bad faith right now and for good reason that they're probably advised not to communicate. So, I really have got to wonder why they even announce a blizzcon, mb they have smth big to make ppl come crawling back, and sc2 being announced as a classic game for the first time, as far as I know, could mean some kind of starcraft announcement, though it'd probably be 3 years away in terms of release. I kind of wish ppl just had enough of blizz and wouldn't show up, but that would be naive of me to think would come to pass. Also, there's no way they would do a normal blizzcon since ewc sets an impossible high standard.


SC2 does receive patches aswell...

They announced a Blizzcon because it has been ages since they had one and they probably have a new round of stuff to announce. Blizzcon in the years before Microsoft clearly suffered from being a yearly event and the pressure of announcing something great every time limited their freedom. Not to mention that I believe we near the end of the 3-Addon WoW-Cycle, so there should be something new in thar regard anyway.

But please people: They didn't announce a Blizzcon Esports Event here. They announced the event Blizzcon and just said that one part of it will be the Classic Cup. For now, it is just a tiny part of the like 10+ panels they announced, nothing more. So don't expect a World Championship, it will not be one. Otherwise that would have clearly be announced, like the Overwatch World Cup.

That being said: I'm just fucking thrilled. I'm not big on christmas and the holidays, but Blizzcon was always my personal holiday. Even when I started to play less Blizzard games regularly, I still enjoyed the Opening Ceremony every time, it was just always magical. And yes, I know, I'm a Blizzard-Simp in that regard, but the last few years, whenever we reached the first weekend of November, I felt kinda sad that there isn't a Blizzcon to look forward to.
So even if this Classic Cup is just the PR-ist PR-Joke of all PR-events...I don't really care. I'm just pumped for Blizzcon and the new direction Microsoft might take the company to.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
November 08 2025 16:32 GMT
#35
Totally strange to me that some people's initial reaction was hate. I still play and watch SC2, WC3, and HotS and think this news is incredible. I don't care if they aren't going to be the greatest tournaments ever with the biggest prize pools or what not; the fact that blizzard is involving itself in the tournament scene at all for these IPs (even if it's really small) is wonderful news.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8806 Posts
November 08 2025 16:59 GMT
#36
in a parallel universe there would be a surprise announcement for sc3/wc4 and it would be up there with some of the greatest new game announcements of all time.

a man could dream
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8638 Posts
November 08 2025 17:22 GMT
#37
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing.


Oh yeah? It's Blizzard. They could use this as an opportunity to announce sequels for all of those games, make them all shit and then try to kill the remaining competitive scenes of those games featured in this event to establish their new games.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-11-08 17:41:37
November 08 2025 17:41 GMT
#38
On November 09 2025 02:22 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing.


Oh yeah? It's Blizzard. They could use this as an opportunity to announce sequels for all of those games, make them all shit and then try to kill the remaining competitive scenes of those games featured in this event to establish their new games.


You mean like what they did when starcraft 2 came out?
I wouldn't worry, brood war is fine, and I doubt they will ever try to kill something as hard as they tried to kill bw.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1258 Posts
November 08 2025 18:13 GMT
#39
On November 09 2025 02:22 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing.


Oh yeah? It's Blizzard. They could use this as an opportunity to announce sequels for all of those games, make them all shit and then try to kill the remaining competitive scenes of those games featured in this event to establish their new games.


There is literally nothing to kill for Blizzard in any of the games. Also if they announce a new RTS in 2026, it will still be 2-3 years until it is released. By then ASL can be played in a nursing home...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8638 Posts
November 08 2025 18:25 GMT
#40
On November 09 2025 02:41 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 02:22 Miragee wrote:
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing.


Oh yeah? It's Blizzard. They could use this as an opportunity to announce sequels for all of those games, make them all shit and then try to kill the remaining competitive scenes of those games featured in this event to establish their new games.


You mean like what they did when starcraft 2 came out?
I wouldn't worry, brood war is fine, and I doubt they will ever try to kill something as hard as they tried to kill bw.


Yes and I will never forgive them.^^ I know it's unlikely but at this point I just wouldn't put it past them to come up with something terrible. That might be a tad cynic but in the past 15 years they have proven to come up with unimaginable shit to screw the players/fans again and again.

On November 09 2025 03:13 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2025 02:22 Miragee wrote:
On November 07 2025 03:18 Balnazza wrote:
Honestly: Nothing bad can come from this. Like...nothing.


Oh yeah? It's Blizzard. They could use this as an opportunity to announce sequels for all of those games, make them all shit and then try to kill the remaining competitive scenes of those games featured in this event to establish their new games.


There is literally nothing to kill for Blizzard in any of the games. Also if they announce a new RTS in 2026, it will still be 2-3 years until it is released. By then ASL can be played in a nursing home...


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