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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-15 10:18:49
January 15 2025 09:58 GMT
#21
And now EWC has taken one announcement down. Previously there were 6 games/ competitions TBA, now it's 5 ...

I'm afraid
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17983 Posts
January 15 2025 10:06 GMT
#22
On January 15 2025 18:58 Harris1st wrote:
And know EWC has taken one announcement down. Previously there were 6 games TBA, now it's 5 ...

I'm afraid

Dude, the only thing Blizzard shares with what it was in 2009 is it's name. Blizzard died the day Kotick announced he was selling.

Blizzard is an animated corpse thrashing about.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-15 13:23:19
January 15 2025 13:21 GMT
#23
On December 24 2024 06:23 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2024 13:17 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On December 22 2024 00:52 lechatnoir wrote:
On December 21 2024 23:51 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
But my point is not about you or anyone actively working in the industry. My point is the fans don't want to pay for anything.


I mean when stuff has been free to watch for more than a decade years it's not strange that people are averse to paying. People are creatures of habit and inertia.


Honestly if I didn't remember wrong, I used to have subscription for GSL from GomTV with high res streaming, that must've been somewhat profitable at the time for them.


I don't think the GSL was ever profitable under GOMTV, not even close.


Ah, very interesting, I do remember that I found the subscription fee back in the day to be pretty steep for the time (one season HD, which was 720p, was like 25 EUR or something like that) and back then subsidies by Blizzard were probably not half-bad, so was it more an issue with paid viewership being too low or more that production costs were too high?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33711 Posts
January 15 2025 15:39 GMT
#24
On January 15 2025 22:21 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2024 06:23 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
On December 23 2024 13:17 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On December 22 2024 00:52 lechatnoir wrote:
On December 21 2024 23:51 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
But my point is not about you or anyone actively working in the industry. My point is the fans don't want to pay for anything.


I mean when stuff has been free to watch for more than a decade years it's not strange that people are averse to paying. People are creatures of habit and inertia.


Honestly if I didn't remember wrong, I used to have subscription for GSL from GomTV with high res streaming, that must've been somewhat profitable at the time for them.


I don't think the GSL was ever profitable under GOMTV, not even close.


Ah, very interesting, I do remember that I found the subscription fee back in the day to be pretty steep for the time (one season HD, which was 720p, was like 25 EUR or something like that) and back then subsidies by Blizzard were probably not half-bad, so was it more an issue with paid viewership being too low or more that production costs were too high?


I mean, probably not on ad-revenue and subscriptions, but the fee they received from Blizzard to run it must have been worth it for them to keep hosting it for a decade. And that money is 100% 'legit' from Gom/Afreeca's perspective, whether or not you think it was a waste for Blizzard.
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States340 Posts
January 16 2025 12:55 GMT
#25
On January 15 2025 22:21 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2024 06:23 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
On December 23 2024 13:17 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On December 22 2024 00:52 lechatnoir wrote:
On December 21 2024 23:51 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
But my point is not about you or anyone actively working in the industry. My point is the fans don't want to pay for anything.


I mean when stuff has been free to watch for more than a decade years it's not strange that people are averse to paying. People are creatures of habit and inertia.


Honestly if I didn't remember wrong, I used to have subscription for GSL from GomTV with high res streaming, that must've been somewhat profitable at the time for them.


I don't think the GSL was ever profitable under GOMTV, not even close.


Ah, very interesting, I do remember that I found the subscription fee back in the day to be pretty steep for the time (one season HD, which was 720p, was like 25 EUR or something like that) and back then subsidies by Blizzard were probably not half-bad, so was it more an issue with paid viewership being too low or more that production costs were too high?


The costs were simply too high. I don't know for sure if Blizzard was subsidizing GOMTV or not. Considering the aggressive pricing model GOMTV used, I might believe they weren't. Either way, they were losing enough money to try and sell it for at least two years before AfreecaTV bought it. One of GOMTV's biggest issues was that it was only using the venue space for the GSL and nothing else.
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