EPTMaru interview with CranK - Page 3
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Gina
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stilt
France2755 Posts
He seems pretty cold just like another finnish guy ! | ||
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Drahkn
196 Posts
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand asking Terran to have complete stealth detection everywhere at all times while moving around with a late game army or you risk losing your entire army in a single click is to strong. All that is being asked for is Infestors to be as easily spotted as a cloaked DT/Observer or Ghost on the map , they are spottable for a reason or it would be completely broken , and you are trying to tell me the same rules don't apply to Zerg because WHAT? | ||
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UnLarva
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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od1himself
Austria7 Posts
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goldensail
132 Posts
Those who insist infestors are not OP are doing just that. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1236 Posts
On February 22 2024 01:43 goldensail wrote: There's a Chinese saying "calling a deer a horse", to describe shameless misrepresentation of an obvious fact for one's own interests. Those who insist infestors are Fixed. | ||
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Tommy131313
Germany157 Posts
Perfect! Thanks!  | ||
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Tommy131313
Germany157 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26620 Posts
On February 25 2024 00:52 Tommy131313 wrote: Regarding handshakes: isn't it the one who lost the game, that's coming over to gratulate the winner? Or am I getting something wrong? To me that’s the common, and indeed more sensible etiquette. Whatever the sport, give the guy who lost in maybe their most disappointing moment as a professional, or generally as a competitor a moment to compose themselves before congratulating their opponent. Doing it the other way around and it’s someone who’s walking on Cloud 9 having achieved something great kind of rubbing it in. | ||
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tincer
12 Posts
Also I'm shocked how most of the people react here... It seems to me, if you have physical issues, just dont talk about it, unless you want to be slaughtered by the community. Just say, you could have done better... people will like that. On how the games went, it seems very likely to me, that there was some issues, since maru had a complete breakdown in game 3 and 4. Also why should maru make it up... Also generally in live: If somebody says he feels bad, just believe it, in most cases its true. Don't just make up your own story in your mind. That's my opinion. | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2656 Posts
On February 19 2024 11:20 Fango wrote: As for "Why does Serral not make excuses?", well he hasn't had a career plagued by injuries (that we know of), and has certainly never had to endure Zerg being weak at the pro level. Hell, there have even been conspiracy theories in recent years that Zerg players are in charge of the balance council. It's hard to blame Maru for making comments about Infestors when Ghosts were nerfed after Zerg player's complaints. People seem to forget Maru has been a proplayer since he was 12 years old, playing under korean team schedules. He has been playing easily 8+ hours everyday for over half his life. Its no surprise he has them, korean team houses were famous for being bad at physical care for their players while making them play every more than most foreigners do. | ||
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Perceivere
131 Posts
On February 25 2024 02:12 WombaT wrote: To me that’s the common, and indeed more sensible etiquette. Whatever the sport, give the guy who lost in maybe their most disappointing moment as a professional, or generally as a competitor a moment to compose themselves before congratulating their opponent. Doing it the other way around and it’s someone who’s walking on Cloud 9 having achieved something great kind of rubbing it in. This is another thing that impresses me about Serral. He's not afraid to buck the trend, to go against the grain. Winner walking over to offer handshake had never made sense to me, and always looks awkward when the loser looks like, "ehk, go away, just let me brood—ok fine whatever" lol. It looks most awkward when the handshake looks limp and lasts for about half a second, and then they immediately turned away from each other. It looks so much better when the loser walks over and offers handshake. Serral blazes his own trail. | ||
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Starcloud
138 Posts
On February 21 2024 18:21 od1himself wrote: I am completely on Maru's side. Infestors should definitely be nerfed. Even if an opponent of Serral was ahead, it changed when Infestors were coming out. The game was basically over. On February 22 2024 01:43 goldensail wrote: There's a Chinese saying "calling a deer a horse", to describe shameless misrepresentation of an obvious fact for one's own interests. Those who insist infestors are not OP are doing just that. Excuses, Excuses, Excuses, Excuses..... Katowice: Maru - Reynor: 2-0 Maru - Dark: 2-0 Masters Coliseum 7: Maru - Dark: 2-0 Maru - Serral: 2-0 And suddenly we need again an excuse why Maru cant perform in the big stages. Its quite funny, that this unbelievable player with like 500apm cant and wont make A SINGLE RAVEN in 10-15 minutes or even 40 minutes of gametime, because Terran just cant. It messes up everything. And infestors are so OP that you need to nerf a unit which gets killed when spotted in half a second and is almost impossible to get used cost-efficiently if you send them sharking around map. Now it happened in one game. Where in addition bit more luck with scans and the whole game would perhaps turned upside down and all would hail Maru and we wouldnt have these stupid discussions at all. You people that shout the infestor-nerf; Do you actually watch those games at all ? Maru did several other mistakes besides the infestor-drama. He played a very good game in which propably any other terran would have died long time ago, and he almost won that. If you turn the tables for a second - I know, impossible for you - wouldnt that indicate that Terran is very, very imbalanced, if the best player/zerg in the world cant win in a heavily zerg favoured map while mining more almost the whole game ?? He also did lot of mistakes in other maps too. Should we also nerf roaches ? Queens ? Hydras ? Lings ? All this whine just undermines the fact that Maru is an outstanding player, whos play is most times amazing to watch. He is a legendary player who shouldnt need 10 excuses every time he loses a series. He lost to a better player. It had nothing to do with balance. In his best days he can give Serral a run for his money and any other zerg will prolly crumble before his play. What goes to the interview, we should take that with grain of salt, since the culture and language is so different, that you cant make big conclusions from everything. However, I still have to say bit im dissapointed about the "balance whine" that Maru makes, be it cultural or not. Great players dont need to make excuses. Admit your loss to a better player, analyze the mistakes you made, improve and move on. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26620 Posts
On March 06 2024 11:37 Starcloud wrote: Excuses, Excuses, Excuses, Excuses..... Katowice: Maru - Reynor: 2-0 Maru - Dark: 2-0 Masters Coliseum 7: Maru - Dark: 2-0 Maru - Serral: 2-0 And suddenly we need again an excuse why Maru cant perform in the big stages. Its quite funny, that this unbelievable player with like 500apm cant and wont make A SINGLE RAVEN in 10-15 minutes or even 40 minutes of gametime, because Terran just cant. It messes up everything. And infestors are so OP that you need to nerf a unit which gets killed when spotted in half a second and is almost impossible to get used cost-efficiently if you send them sharking around map. Now it happened in one game. Where in addition bit more luck with scans and the whole game would perhaps turned upside down and all would hail Maru and we wouldnt have these stupid discussions at all. You people that shout the infestor-nerf; Do you actually watch those games at all ? Maru did several other mistakes besides the infestor-drama. He played a very good game in which propably any other terran would have died long time ago, and he almost won that. If you turn the tables for a second - I know, impossible for you - wouldnt that indicate that Terran is very, very imbalanced, if the best player/zerg in the world cant win in a heavily zerg favoured map while mining more almost the whole game ?? He also did lot of mistakes in other maps too. Should we also nerf roaches ? Queens ? Hydras ? Lings ? All this whine just undermines the fact that Maru is an outstanding player, whos play is most times amazing to watch. He is a legendary player who shouldnt need 10 excuses every time he loses a series. He lost to a better player. It had nothing to do with balance. In his best days he can give Serral a run for his money and any other zerg will prolly crumble before his play. What goes to the interview, we should take that with grain of salt, since the culture and language is so different, that you cant make big conclusions from everything. However, I still have to say bit im dissapointed about the "balance whine" that Maru makes, be it cultural or not. Great players dont need to make excuses. Admit your loss to a better player, analyze the mistakes you made, improve and move on. Maru’s kind of always been a glass half empty negative nancy in interviews forever, I wouldn’t read a huge amount into it. He could be in the middle of winning 4 Code S titles in a row and he’ll still be saying he’s not playing that well and everything is super hard. I think it’s more his fans who make excuse after excuse rather than the man himself. As tincer so eloquently said you’re a bit damned if you do, damned if you don’t too. If you’re fully honest about physical or mental issues and how they’re impacting you, people often lay the charge that you’re making excuses. But if you go the wall of silence and start having bad results without that explanation, people will start speculating that you’re slumping or lacking motivation or whatever. It’s also an interview quite shortly after Maru yet again failed to tick off the one box he hasn’t ticked in winning one of these WC events, so perhaps he’s still in the disappointed/processing stage. He also said for example that even in his personal assessment if he was absolutely 100% in his absolute best shape that he’d give himself at best a 50/50 shot against Serral, so I don’t feel he’s really disrespecting the lad and his skill at all. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On March 06 2024 11:37 Starcloud wrote: And suddenly we need again an excuse why Maru cant perform in the big stages. Its quite funny, that this unbelievable player with like 500apm cant and wont make A SINGLE RAVEN in 10-15 minutes or even 40 minutes of gametime, because Terran just cant. It messes up everything. This is a braindead take. Maru doesn't build Ravens in lategame, Clem doesn't, Cure doesn't, ByuN doesn't, Gumiho doesn't. But a random TL user thinks he understands the game better than all those players and tells them what they are all doing wrong | ||
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Gilgamesh_
36 Posts
On March 06 2024 20:06 Charoisaur wrote: This is a braindead take. Maru doesn't build Ravens in lategame, Clem doesn't, Cure doesn't, ByuN doesn't, Gumiho doesn't. But a random TL user thinks he understands the game better than all those players and tells them what they are all doing wrong While obviously the takes presented here are usually very simplified from a pro players' perspective, this would not be the first time that things advocated in this forum actually get established in-game much later ;-) | ||
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ZeroByte13
795 Posts
On March 06 2024 22:33 Gilgamesh_ wrote: Often this "much later" includes different patch / balance / meta / maps though.While obviously the takes presented here are usually very simplified from a pro players' perspective, this would not be the first time that things advocated in this forum actually get established in-game much later ;-) | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On March 06 2024 22:33 Gilgamesh_ wrote: While obviously the takes presented here are usually very simplified from a pro players' perspective, this would not be the first time that things advocated in this forum actually get established in-game much later ;-) even a broken clock is right twice a day, that doesn't justify the confidence this user has in thinking only he has the magical solution for dealing with burrowed Infestors that pro players just haven't figured out | ||
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