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Which region will win the EPT Atlanta main event?

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net130 Posts
November 19 2023 23:10 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for front page poll: "Which region will win the EPT Atlanta main event?"
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
November 20 2023 01:05 GMT
#2
Hopefully Korea. They've yet to win an international event this year (granted for premiers it's only a sample size of 3 so far but if you include the pigstys and afreeca champions cup that changes to 6 and is still 0 for KR) and it will be sad if the world vs Korea rivalry has tilted so hard towards the world.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1102 Posts
November 20 2023 01:18 GMT
#3
Europe definetly goes in as the favorites. For Korea it feels like it mostly depends on Solar and on what form Dark shows up. I kinda doubt we will get a winner from Asia or Americas, but who knows
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3220 Posts
November 20 2023 02:53 GMT
#4
Depending on which Maru will show up, the guys who just want to "get it over with" doing 2-base all-in and get countered, or the one who actually want to play it out in the macro game. I would favor him against everyone but Serral if he feel like it. Gumiho actually got a highest seed from KR and can be a good Dark horse. I dont see anyone but Serral can win from the EU side, so the question become who can beat Serral in a Bo5/7.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States899 Posts
November 20 2023 10:14 GMT
#5
The Serral region.


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Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
November 20 2023 11:53 GMT
#6
Probably Europe, it became the most dynamic SC2 region nowadays.
Serral is favourite.
Reynor can win against each and all Korean, when he's really into it.
Clem is on the same level with nearly all Koreans, except for maybe Maru (the championship type of him).
Maxpax could be surprise winner, if he finally takes part in offline event.
So 3 (4) trump cards for Europe.
zumpy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
November 23 2023 14:43 GMT
#7
it all depends on solar vs serral ZvZ
well won
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
November 23 2023 19:23 GMT
#8
On November 23 2023 23:43 zumpy wrote:
it all depends on solar vs serral ZvZ


This all day. I don't think anyone's going to give Solar any real problems for ZvP or ZvT unless Maru comes back to form and mindgames his teammate really badly. As long as Solar's ZvZ is still at it's fearsome level, he can take out Serral and Reynor and finally give Korea a win.
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1102 Posts
November 24 2023 00:51 GMT
#9
Imagine you would travel back in time and tell someone from 2015 that Koreas chances of winning an international event soley rest on the ZvZ of one player. That's like an instant ticket to Arkham...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States361 Posts
November 24 2023 13:36 GMT
#10
I'm going to go with Europe for this one due to Serral being a big favorite.
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bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
114 Posts
November 24 2023 13:50 GMT
#11
On November 20 2023 11:53 tigera6 wrote:
Depending on which Maru will show up, the guys who just want to "get it over with" doing 2-base all-in and get countered, or the one who actually want to play it out in the macro game. I would favor him against everyone but Serral if he feel like it. Gumiho actually got a highest seed from KR and can be a good Dark horse. I dont see anyone but Serral can win from the EU side, so the question become who can beat Serral in a Bo5/7.

Macro game against top zergs is suicide. All the terrans have better chances at all-ins in this matchup.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1455 Posts
November 24 2023 14:01 GMT
#12
On November 20 2023 10:05 JJH777 wrote:
Hopefully Korea. They've yet to win an international event this year (granted for premiers it's only a sample size of 3 so far but if you include the pigstys and afreeca champions cup that changes to 6 and is still 0 for KR) and it will be sad if the world vs Korea rivalry has tilted so hard towards the world.

Man, I hate that people are so easily swayed by recent results to even consider this. EU vs Korea is exactly the same as it's always been for the past few years. There are a few Europeans who can hang with the best koreans, but the majority of the Korean pros are at a higher level than eu. Maru's lack of results recently were due to him being sick. He is slowly recovering, and recently beat Serral in a late game macro TvZ. The Korean scene is not ending. Everything is fine. Calm down.

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Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany152 Posts
November 24 2023 14:55 GMT
#13
On November 24 2023 23:01 CicadaSC wrote:
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On November 20 2023 10:05 JJH777 wrote:
Hopefully Korea. They've yet to win an international event this year (granted for premiers it's only a sample size of 3 so far but if you include the pigstys and afreeca champions cup that changes to 6 and is still 0 for KR) and it will be sad if the world vs Korea rivalry has tilted so hard towards the world.

Man, I hate that people are so easily swayed by recent results to even consider this. EU vs Korea is exactly the same as it's always been for the past few years. There are a few Europeans who can hang with the best koreans, but the majority of the Korean pros are at a higher level than eu. Maru's lack of results recently were due to him being sick. He is slowly recovering, and recently beat Serral in a late game macro TvZ. The Korean scene is not ending. Everything is fine. Calm down.




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Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1096 Posts
November 24 2023 21:55 GMT
#14
On November 24 2023 04:23 yoshi245 wrote:
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On November 23 2023 23:43 zumpy wrote:
it all depends on solar vs serral ZvZ


I don't think anyone's going to give Solar any real problems for ZvP or ZvT unless Maru comes back to form and mindgames his teammate really badly.

I don't think that Solar's ZvT and ZvP are anywhere near the level where he is the clear favorite against anyone except Maru.

Clem, Cure, MaxPax, herO, ByuN, and many others can and routinely do pose very real problems for him. Of course Solar can beat all of them, but he also frequently loses, sometimes in a rather underwhelming fashion. His ZvT and ZvP, while good, are not comparable to Serral's.

The overall favorite of course is EU, because of Serral. If he happens to drop out, I think the chances are pretty much even between EU and Korea.
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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
186 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-25 07:59:35
November 25 2023 07:58 GMT
#15
Korean will win they are overall usually better at offline events and Zerg's dont get the ping advantage which they benefit from so much from online events ( they don't need to rely on micro as much, as Terran and Protoss )
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3220 Posts
November 25 2023 12:41 GMT
#16
On November 25 2023 06:55 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2023 04:23 yoshi245 wrote:
On November 23 2023 23:43 zumpy wrote:
it all depends on solar vs serral ZvZ


I don't think anyone's going to give Solar any real problems for ZvP or ZvT unless Maru comes back to form and mindgames his teammate really badly.

I don't think that Solar's ZvT and ZvP are anywhere near the level where he is the clear favorite against anyone except Maru.

Clem, Cure, MaxPax, herO, ByuN, and many others can and routinely do pose very real problems for him. Of course Solar can beat all of them, but he also frequently loses, sometimes in a rather underwhelming fashion. His ZvT and ZvP, while good, are not comparable to Serral's.

The overall favorite of course is EU, because of Serral. If he happens to drop out, I think the chances are pretty much even between EU and Korea.

No it isnt even. Without Serral it is KR favorite, as I have no trust in Reynor getting back in top form until IEM. So it means Clem vs 4-5 top Terran in KR, and against Dark, Solar and herO.
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