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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18266 Posts
October 10 2023 18:13 GMT
#21
On October 11 2023 02:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2023 23:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 10 2023 22:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The game can't be "in the hands of the community" as Brood War was or as the Command & Conquer games are right now. These games have community run multiplayer servers independent of the corporation. SC2's multiplayer is exclusively run by Blizzard on Blizzard servers. If the community had its own private SC2 servers it could become a "community game". Right now, its Blizzard property.

A community server would be super cool.

That fairly obviously isn't true, because tons of games rely on a vibrant modding community to increase their replay value even though they run on central servers. You don't need public servers to have a thriving modding community.

it is still not "in the hands of the community". When the corp shuts down servers the game ends. When the community owns the servers and/or when there are private servers the game has the potential to live forever.

You're conflating community members doing things for the community and that community potentially lasting forever. The two are not the same thing. Even if you don't accept whoever worked on the patch, mapmakers are fairly clearly working on maps for free. At best they get a very small prize from TL mapmaking contests, but it's (1) a pittance compared to the work it takes and (2) far from guaranteed your map will win you money even if it does actually end up in the map pool.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17467 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-10 18:53:20
October 10 2023 18:52 GMT
#22
On October 11 2023 03:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2023 02:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 10 2023 23:46 Acrofales wrote:
On October 10 2023 22:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The game can't be "in the hands of the community" as Brood War was or as the Command & Conquer games are right now. These games have community run multiplayer servers independent of the corporation. SC2's multiplayer is exclusively run by Blizzard on Blizzard servers. If the community had its own private SC2 servers it could become a "community game". Right now, its Blizzard property.

A community server would be super cool.

That fairly obviously isn't true, because tons of games rely on a vibrant modding community to increase their replay value even though they run on central servers. You don't need public servers to have a thriving modding community.

it is still not "in the hands of the community". When the corp shuts down servers the game ends. When the community owns the servers and/or when there are private servers the game has the potential to live forever.

You're conflating community members doing things for the community and that community potentially lasting forever.

no, i'm contrasting how C&C is "in the community's hands" versus SC2. A Mod-der can spend 10,000 hours on an SC2 project and the next day ATVI can make it disappear. That is not the case with C&C and EA. A modder of games like NHL '94 or a C&C game has far greater agency than any volunteer working around SC2.
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CiuCiu
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
October 10 2023 19:39 GMT
#23
Yes, and Blizzard will enjoy the millions of dollars this new patch brings in for them...


Care to explain how can Blizzard enjoy millions of dollars from this new patch to a free game from which Blizzard doesn't see a dime but pours millions of dollars to keep server farms live with minimum ping for the whole world?
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1281 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-10 19:57:17
October 10 2023 19:57 GMT
#24
On October 11 2023 04:39 CiuCiu wrote:
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Yes, and Blizzard will enjoy the millions of dollars this new patch brings in for them...


Care to explain how can Blizzard enjoy millions of dollars from this new patch to a free game from which Blizzard doesn't see a dime but pours millions of dollars to keep server farms live with minimum ping for the whole world?


Yes, I certainly can explain that. Hope it doesn't get too technical:
It was sarcasm :3
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