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Power Rank - IEM Katowice 2023

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Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden586 Posts
February 09 2023 10:35 GMT
#67
On February 08 2023 17:19 dbRic1203 wrote:
If jetlag realy was this big of a factor, don t you think players would just go there a few days earlier? 3 more nights in a hotel cost like 100 bucks, if that could double or tripple your price money earnings that easily, they would all be in europe 1 week early.
I traveled around the globe (form Europe to North America, Southeast Asia and Australia) for sport competitions in the past and never realy felt any impact on my performance because of jetlag.

You would also need to factor in other changes, like food.
Korean food and Polish food are very different.

But the travel early to counter jetlag is something that Maru really should consider. He has complained about it repeatedly and you can see the in his face the difference between a long and gruelling day near his home compared to being in Europe. He is very much afflicted.

With the way Katowice is a yearly event, I am surprised that the Koreans haven't made preparations, a Korean house a la Noregret's foreigner house in South Korea or something similar.
Random Platinum EU
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
82 Posts
February 09 2023 10:39 GMT
#68
Let's go Hero! Sad Zoun didn't make it through
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-09 10:50:46
February 09 2023 10:50 GMT
#69
Don't know how many more of these big events we'll get while the game still has relevancy, so gonna savor this one a little extra. Best of luck to all the players!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States459 Posts
February 09 2023 19:04 GMT
#70
On February 09 2023 10:12 CicadaSC wrote:
I'll say it right now, I think Classic will make it out of his group. He's beaten both Byun and Gumiho in tournaments as recent as last month, he got to hide his PvT during the Play-in Stage and he is the king of Prep! Classic lets go!

😉
Never stop fighting~
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden586 Posts
February 09 2023 19:41 GMT
#71
On February 10 2023 04:04 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2023 10:12 CicadaSC wrote:
I'll say it right now, I think Classic will make it out of his group. He's beaten both Byun and Gumiho in tournaments as recent as last month, he got to hide his PvT during the Play-in Stage and he is the king of Prep! Classic lets go!

😉

Big Gabe brought it back.
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johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
6 Posts
February 10 2023 04:57 GMT
#72
On February 09 2023 10:05 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2023 09:54 johnnyh123 wrote:
Let's not use your personal experience. When you competed in sport competitions in the past, you were not competing in the Olympics (correct me if I am wrong here), however, IEM Katowice for Starcraft II is the equivalent of the Olympics in eSports. Go watch some ex-NBA player playing against NCAA/semi-pro hooper videos - Brian Scalabrine vs Regular people challenge. TLDR, he went 1v3, one of them was a professional overseas, but Scalabrine absolutely destroyed them. My point here is: the sports competitions you were in, slight changes in circadian rhythm doesn't matter, but it does matter for world's top players in sports. There, all of them devoted tens of thousands of hours in a game, the slightest change in lifestyle/physical-conditions could have significant impact.

Oof, this is really poorly argued. Did you register just to make this your first post?

For starters, even if there is a huge skill gap between the top players and some lower tier of still-professional players, what evidence do you have that issues with circadian rhythm only affect those top players, and not anybody else?


Changes in circadian rhythm affect everyone differently, but it does affect most of the population. The differences in skill doesn't really matter that much for low level players, whereas slightest changes matters for top players. I was a low master's league, it doesn't really matter if I am jet-lagged or drunk, I was more or less +/- that league. Could win when I was not in optimal condition. However, for top-level sports athletes, it really matters, you are not breaking the world record with a sub-optimal condition.

(I have always been on this forum, been watching every single premier tournament since 2010, but yes, this is a new account that I just created)
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2501 Posts
February 12 2023 07:24 GMT
#73
So far the most overperforming players compared to this Power Rank are Classic (+14) and Special (+16)
The most underperforming players are Clem (-14) and Bunny (-16).
Oliveira has a top 8 secured allready, wich means he also exceeded expectations by at least 13 places already
MaxPax
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
592 Posts
February 12 2023 20:12 GMT
#74
#21
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain16644 Posts
February 12 2023 20:30 GMT
#75
Dead last of those "contending for a playoff spot". What an incredible run!
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
611 Posts
February 12 2023 20:35 GMT
#76
On February 13 2023 05:12 Vision_ wrote:
#21


What a run. I can't believe he pulled it off. It was his Time I guess.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States31764 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 21:06:21
February 12 2023 21:06 GMT
#77
On February 13 2023 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Dead last of those "contending for a playoff spot". What an incredible run!


he was literally 1 map away from RO24 elimination
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France669 Posts
February 12 2023 21:50 GMT
#78
On February 13 2023 06:06 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Dead last of those "contending for a playoff spot". What an incredible run!


he was literally 1 map away from RO24 elimination


Crazy to think he might be world champion largely because Neeb decided to go back to studying
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2501 Posts
February 13 2023 05:18 GMT
#79
On February 13 2023 06:06 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Dead last of those "contending for a playoff spot". What an incredible run!


he was literally 1 map away from RO24 elimination

He had the same map score (6/6) and match score (2/3) as soO when he won IEM
MaxPax
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China563 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-13 06:06:39
February 13 2023 06:06 GMT
#80
An incredible dark horse
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
championiasonu
Profile Joined April 2018
7 Posts
February 13 2023 06:28 GMT
#81
Tier 0: Oliveira!!!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2501 Posts
February 13 2023 08:37 GMT
#82
I compiled a list comparing the power rank with the actual finish placement:

[image loading]

While the biggest overperformance is (obviously) Oliveira, Special and Classic also did way better than expected.
The 2 biggest disapointments have been Bunny and Clem.

I used Groupstage Match wins as a tiebreaker for players that got eliminated on the same tournament stage. If players were still tied then, I sorted by Power Rank.
MaxPax
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3047 Posts
February 13 2023 12:01 GMT
#83
When you compare Oli's spot in the tournament with Clem/Bunny who were much further up the list. Even Zoun was above Oli and he only managed 25/26th spot.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
time win
Profile Joined February 2023
China2 Posts
February 13 2023 12:43 GMT
#84
When Oliveira win the championship,i just keep laughing.However,tears slipped down without control.We lost our server,we have no champion in the past.But now,we have champion.Oliveira,his name is 李培楠,he is the hero for all of Chinese sc2 player.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain809 Posts
February 13 2023 21:21 GMT
#85
On February 13 2023 21:43 time win wrote:
When Oliveira win the championship,i just keep laughing.However,tears slipped down without control.We lost our server,we have no champion in the past.But now,we have champion.Oliveira,his name is 李培楠,he is the hero for all of Chinese sc2 player.

He is the hero for all of us!
But I know what you mean.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States218 Posts
February 14 2023 21:32 GMT
#86
It really is crazy how much community we lost with the loss of the Chinese Blizzard scene. The CN community has been pushing the highest levels of gameplay; we have Oliveira who demonstrated such commitment to the game, there are also figures across other games.

In WoW, there were numerous of CN guilds that also participated in the race to world first with the recent raid release in December. They were able to get four guilds that were in the top 10 guilds of the RWF. Outside of that top 10, there were plenty of others too.

Not to mention, the CN scene for the last few years have known to be huge sponsors and fans of SC1 and SC2 as well. I just hope this schism doesn't persist; they are obviously huge gamers.
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
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