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Itsxjoeyy
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tlnetuser108
83 Posts
On February 08 2023 17:19 dbRic1203 wrote: If jetlag realy was this big of a factor, don t you think players would just go there a few days earlier? 3 more nights in a hotel cost like 100 bucks, if that could double or tripple your price money earnings that easily, they would all be in europe 1 week early. I traveled around the globe (form Europe to North America, Southeast Asia and Australia) for sport competitions in the past and never realy felt any impact on my performance because of jetlag. 3 nights at a hotel costs more than a $100. Plus flights costs are different everyday at different times. And just because you felt a certain way doesn't mean everyone is like you. There really is a good chance that jetlag affects Maru worse than others. | ||
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MyLovelyLurker
France756 Posts
On February 09 2023 00:02 tlnetuser108 wrote: 3 nights at a hotel costs more than a $100. Plus flights costs are different everyday at different times. And just because you felt a certain way doesn't mean everyone is like you. There really is a good chance that jetlag affects Maru worse than others. The book 'Peak Sleep Performance for Athletes' written by someone who's consulted NBA players costs £12.85. Too expensive maybe ? I'll commit to personally gift it to verified pros who DM me. | ||
Poopi
France13022 Posts
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ZeroByte13
799 Posts
And it always was 3-2 as far as I remember, with him leading 2-1 or even 2-0 at one point of every series. A bit more luck/concentration and he probably could be 3x world champ - but history doesn't know if`s and but`s. It is what it is. | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
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MyLovelyLurker
France756 Posts
On February 09 2023 00:32 Poopi wrote: It’s not like other terrans showed up at WC anyways so I don’t see why everyone is talking about jet lag for Maru. He might be more sensitive to international travel but that’s not the main issue that plagued his runs It's a big nothingburger. Surely after 10yrs in the game, if I'd dramatically underperformed my teammate (cough Rogue cough) in the world championship department, I'd maybe amortize half the time difference by shifting my sleep schedule weeks before. That makes it a remaining... wow... 4 hours change ! | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On February 08 2023 22:34 Itsxjoeyy wrote: In the words of Michael Jordan, the GOAT of basketball, if I step on the court that means I’m 100% ready to play, win or lose there are no excuses. All this jet-lag talk and blah blah blah, professional athletes from all sports deal with this all the time. If players are ready willing and able to play then there are no excuses especially at the biggest tournament of the year AND when talking about the goat. You either get it done or you don’t period. The NBA only plays in NA, he never had to deal with jetlag. (e: this actually isn't true, you can still be jetlagged going coast to coast, albeit not as severe as NA to EU or Asia) Players typically arrive a few days early or for bigger tournaments, a week+ early, just to get used to the time difference which will have a drastic effect on performance. In some esports, they will bootcamp in the region of the tournament to fully adapt their circadian rhythm as to not have jetlag as an excuse. I imagine they adequately prepared for this, but who knows. Either way, jetlag is a very real, very challenging detriment. | ||
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MyLovelyLurker
France756 Posts
On February 09 2023 01:38 BluemoonSC wrote: The NBA only plays in NA, he never had to deal with jetlag. (e: this actually isn't true, you can still be jetlagged going coast to coast, albeit not as severe as NA to EU or Asia) I imagine they adequately prepared for this, but who knows. Either way, jetlag is a very real, very challenging detriment. Thanks for your edit, this was technically untrue, as he played in the Olympics as well. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On February 09 2023 01:46 MyLovelyLurker wrote: Thanks for your edit, this was technically untrue, as he played in the Olympics as well. You can bet that Olympic athletes arrive with plenty of time to practice and adjust to jetlag, which is why I didn't mention it. | ||
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Xamo
Spain886 Posts
I do not see Serral #1 and Reynor #2. If they play the finals (very possible) then Reynor would win. | ||
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
On February 08 2023 15:17 tlnetuser108 wrote: Agreed with the jetlag. Most likely this is the biggest reason why Koreans lose. If anyone has actually traveled long distance, they would know that jetlag is no joke at all. I'm willing to bet that Maru is very prone to the negative side effects of jetlag and thats why he is the way he is in non-Asian tournaments. On Korean soil, Maru dominates every single non-Korean You seem to forgot Serral destroyed Maru and the whole Korean crew on Korean soil while playing jet lag Ms won 2 GSL Conquer and left | ||
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
On February 08 2023 22:34 Itsxjoeyy wrote: In the words of Michael Jordan, the GOAT of basketball, if I step on the court that means I’m 100% ready to play, win or lose there are no excuses. All this jet-lag talk and blah blah blah, professional athletes from all sports deal with this all the time. If players are ready willing and able to play then there are no excuses especially at the biggest tournament of the year AND when talking about the goat. You either get it done or you don’t period. Just the usual Korean fanboys excuses when losing to foreigners since the beginning of SC Jet lag, didn’t try, hiding and saving builds for GSL, etc if anything it makes them sound quite pathetic constantly using those excuses Funny when the Korean pro players has acknowledged Serral as the best player since 2018. Dunno why the fans has yet to accept that | ||
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ZeroByte13
799 Posts
Okay... | ||
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Itsxjoeyy
30 Posts
On February 09 2023 01:38 BluemoonSC wrote: The NBA only plays in NA, he never had to deal with jetlag. (e: this actually isn't true, you can still be jetlagged going coast to coast, albeit not as severe as NA to EU or Asia) Players typically arrive a few days early or for bigger tournaments, a week+ early, just to get used to the time difference which will have a drastic effect on performance. In some esports, they will bootcamp in the region of the tournament to fully adapt their circadian rhythm as to not have jetlag as an excuse. I imagine they adequately prepared for this, but who knows. Either way, jetlag is a very real, very challenging detriment. Regardless..no excuses | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On February 09 2023 05:15 ZeroByte13 wrote: Serral won 2 GSLs? Okay... There's a concentrated effort from Serral fans to treat GSL vs the World as equal to Code S despite the fact that it was near universally accepted to be a lower tier event before Serral won it. | ||
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BelethielQT
90 Posts
On February 09 2023 05:49 JJH777 wrote: There's a concentrated effort from Serral fans to treat GSL vs the World as equal to Code S despite the fact that it was near universally accepted to be a lower tier event before Serral won it. the next excuse | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
Not an excuse. I fully acknowledge that Serral has been the best player for a while now. While I don't believe he's been the continuous best since 2018 I do think that from 2018 forward he's spent the most time as the best player. Skill is completely independent from achievement though. Additionally the game didn't start in 2018. Serral may have the highest skill level but his lifetime SC2 accomplishment is really not that close to players like Rogue, Maru, and even Innovation. | ||
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BelethielQT
90 Posts
On February 09 2023 06:06 JJH777 wrote: Not an excuse. I fully acknowledge that Serral has been the best player for a while now. While I don't believe he's been the continuous best since 2018 I do think that from 2018 forward he's spent the most time as the best player. Skill is completely independent from achievement though. Additionally the game didn't start in 2018. Serral may have the highest skill level but his lifetime SC2 accomplishment is really not that close to players like Rogue, Maru, and even Innovation. only rogue has more more bigger titels and with serrals earnings he achieved more then all the 3 | ||
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Itsxjoeyy
30 Posts
On February 09 2023 06:06 JJH777 wrote: Not an excuse. I fully acknowledge that Serral has been the best player for a while now. While I don't believe he's been the continuous best since 2018 I do think that from 2018 forward he's spent the most time as the best player. Skill is completely independent from achievement though. Additionally the game didn't start in 2018. Serral may have the highest skill level but his lifetime SC2 accomplishment is really not that close to players like Rogue, Maru, and even Innovation. Regardless if GSL vs world is “lower tier” than code S, serral dominated all the best code S players in those tournaments. What’s the difference where he beat them? NO EXCUSES! | ||
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