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But Byun is #11 in global standings, with 1,891 points.
And Cure is not even in top 20 with his 1102 points, so he will have to go through Round of 36.
So Byun definitely and measurably had a better year than Cure, no?
How someone can be a contender if they are not even in top-20?
On January 13 2023 19:16 CicadaSC wrote:
I think if you can beat serral and reynor consistently, who are global contenders, you are a global contender yourself. My position is - "if you could never perform well outside of EU, not even once, you are not a global contender".
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On January 13 2023 19:16 CicadaSC wrote:
i think if you can beat serral and reynor consistently, who are global contenders, you are a global contender yourself. Maybe he has a bad winrate vs koreans but a good bracket could easily fix that. I think byun is definitely good. his homestory cup run was impressive but overall cure had a better year than byun imo
Cure has a record of 0W-3L vs Serral with 0-5 map score and 1W-3L vs Reynor with 2-9 map score.
Not sure you can call that consistently beating them if you look at last years results.
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On January 13 2023 21:35 Ronski wrote:
Not sure you can call that consistently beating them if you look at last years results. They were talking about Clem, I think.
I mentioned Clem never winning anything outside of EU because he can win vs Serral/Reynor but not other top players, and I thought this was CicadaSC's answer to my words. But I might be wrong, of course.
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On January 13 2023 19:22 ZeroByte13 wrote:But Byun is #11 in global standings, with 1,891 points. And Cure is not even in top 20 with his 1102 points, so he will have to go through Round of 36. So Byun definitely and measurably had a better year than Cure, no? How someone can be a contender if they are not even in top-20? Show nested quote +On January 13 2023 19:16 CicadaSC wrote:
I think if you can beat serral and reynor consistently, who are global contenders, you are a global contender yourself. My position is - "if you could never perform well outside of EU, not even once, you are not a global contender".
I think Clem definitely has the skill to be a global contender, but until he delivers in an offline, global tournament I'm going to continue to doubt him. He'd need a dream bracket to win, and that's assuming that he can translate his online record against Reynor/Serral into an offline setting. Clem is heavily disadvantaged against Dark, Bunny, and Maru, and I think he'll have a hard time against herO, Serral, Reynor, Byun and Cure too.
Bunny is the real non-Maru Terran hope. While I doubt he can beat multiple top Zerg back to back, he's good enough to beat one, and his other MUs are really good too. I don't have much faith that Bunny can win, but if a Terran not named Maru goes deep my money's on Bunny.
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In term of Terran hope out side of Maru, I would put Byun > Bunny > Clem > HM > Cure > Gumiho. Clem just hasnt done well enough in global tournament this year, or even the year before. Bunny and Byun can get on a hot streak like HM did last year
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On January 14 2023 01:24 tigera6 wrote:
I would put Byun > Bunny > Clem > HM > Cure > Gumiho Yeah, this feels about right, my list would be the same.
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Does anyone know at what time the finals will be played? Is it going to be the same as last year?
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Did time change his name back?
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Its funny that Teebul is ahead of Probe by 6pts, and those 6pts was coming from being invited (not qualified) into HSC 21 as one of the replacement. Everything are done legit per the rule book, but its funny to see such implication coming from such small detail in tournament.
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Imo Clem is good , but not as an contender , he really has issues in TvT vs korean Terrans so its alsmost a loss vs Maru ,
Byun , Bunny , Cure , Gumiho and sooner or later he will find them in his way .
Reynor atm seems to not practise and losses left and right but if he comes at form can win it , Serral , Maru , Dark , Hero are obvious contenders and after those ill put Byun , Bunny if he practises hard , Maxpax if he comes and Clem .
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EPT
