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Final-ish list of IEM Katowice 2023 players

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-22 08:20:56
December 21 2022 13:52 GMT
#1
With the conclusion of HomeStory Cup XXII, we have a near-final lits of players who are qualified to compete at IEM Katowice 2023. Still, there may be cancellations or invite declines before the tournament (due to visa issues etc), so ESL have not yet made an official post regarding the Katowice players.

For now, Liquipedia calculations give us the following rosters:

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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
December 21 2022 13:53 GMT
#2
DRG lets goooooooo
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3116 Posts
December 21 2022 16:15 GMT
#3
serral, clem, hero or gtfo

or coffee, let's go coffee. it's your time to shine
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
December 21 2022 18:16 GMT
#4
So it only comes down to MaxPax confirm hes not coming and Harstem will replace him for the Ro.36
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia317 Posts
December 21 2022 18:20 GMT
#5
No MaxPax again?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 22 2022 05:44 GMT
#6
We'll see what's up with the Chinese/Meo visa situation + if Cure is allowed to leave Korea in 2023.
I'm also a bit curious to see if all the Korean decide to go, I feel like I've barely seen Armani, Ryung and Classic play in the last few months.
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3573 Posts
December 22 2022 12:29 GMT
#7
the only open "issues" (afaik) atm are:
- MaxPax playing
- Cure able to travel
- Zoun in military
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TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
December 22 2022 14:31 GMT
#8
On December 22 2022 03:20 TheCheapSkate wrote:
No MaxPax again?


We get Harstem!

His games need to be on Is it Imba or do I suck series
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
December 22 2022 22:02 GMT
#9
nice, Gumiho and DRG both made it

I'm expecting Zoun to make it to the ro24 at least
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-22 23:14:15
December 22 2022 23:13 GMT
#10
I hope we will get to see MaxPax but probably not. Such a shame, he has evolved into a scaringly good protoss player
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 12 2023 17:03 GMT
#11
Meomaika will probably miss IEM because they cant process his visa on time, probably mean TeeBul got the spot now. So sad to hear Meomaika got screwed over by it times after times.
FrashQ
Profile Joined November 2011
53 Posts
January 12 2023 18:40 GMT
#12
While I'm afraid we will have to endure a ZvZ finals, I am willing to take this sacrifice if Maxpax appears on LAN.

Anyway, have my tickets already and can't wait to whine about zerg in person!
Larisabrownb
Profile Joined January 2023
United States1 Post
January 13 2023 06:43 GMT
#13
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 08:10:43
January 13 2023 08:09 GMT
#14
Protoss capable of winning: herO and herO

Zergs capable of winning? Dark Solar Reynor Serral

Terran: Cure Clem Maru

but protoss gets the biggest nerfs to their key units and overall patch losers, not to mention the maps being zerg favored. h'okay buddy.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
784 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 09:54:52
January 13 2023 09:37 GMT
#15
When it was last time when Clem and Cure looked like actual candidates to win Katowice?
(never... the answer is "never")

Also why Cure and Clem but not Byun and Bunny who got quite a bit more success recently?
When it was last time Cure consistently looked stronger that Byun or Bunny?

If you include players like Cure and Clem then you also have to include Zoun and MaxPax.
Yes, MaxPax won't participate, but it's not because P is weak.

I agree that patch is Z-favored, maps are Z-favored, and if patch goes through - Zerg will win Katowice with 95% chance.
But list of good enough T and P doesn't make much sense.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 09:57:26
January 13 2023 09:53 GMT
#16
On January 13 2023 18:37 ZeroByte13 wrote:
If you include Cure and Clem, why not include Zoun and MaxPax?
Yes, MaxPax won't participate, but it's not because P is weak.

And why Cure and Clem but not Byun and Bunny who got quite a bit more success recently?
When it was last time Cure consistently looked stronger that Byun or Bunny?

I agree that patch is Z-favored, maps are Z-favored, and if patch goes through - Zerg will win Katowice with 95% chance.
But list of good enough T and P doesn't make much sense.

cuz maxpax is not going, and he has not shown offline performance so there is no guarantee he would even do well, especially if its because of insecurities his nerves could be a real factor. and does anyone really think Zoun is going to win?

as for why not include byun and bunny? Maybe they could but just my personal opinion Clem or Cure would be more likely. I could see others disagreeing, particularly with ByuN who I would put a little higher than bunny atm
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
784 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 09:57:00
January 13 2023 09:55 GMT
#17
On January 13 2023 18:53 CicadaSC wrote: and does anyone really think Zoun is going to win?
Does anyone think Cure or Clem is going to win? Answer is also "no", isn't it?

So I'd say the actual "probable contenders" list looks like
Z - Serral, Reynor, Dark
P - herO
T - Maru
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 10:01:17
January 13 2023 09:58 GMT
#18
On January 13 2023 18:55 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2023 18:53 CicadaSC wrote: and does anyone really think Zoun is going to win?
Does anyone think Cure or Clem is going to win? Answer is also "no", isn't it?

So I'd say the actual "probable contenders" list looks like
Z - Serral, Reynor, Dark
P - herO
T - Maru

I think my point is, in terms of likelyness cure or clem are a lot more likely to win than Zoun. Clem won DH EU beating reynor just a few months ago. Cure also got 2nd place and carried his team in team league and dont forget at start of last year he also got 2nd place in last chance tournament. Byun best result is 3rd place 2022.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
784 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 10:10:59
January 13 2023 10:05 GMT
#19
Last Chance was 1 year ago though. Since then Byun got better and Cure got worse.
Right now I'd say Byun has a significantly higher chance than Cure.
Btw Zoun has won against Serral not so long ago so he's not a pushover.

Also unfortunately Clem winning anything in EU never meant much outside for global tourneys...
He can "farm" wins against Serral and Reynor but was never able to beat top koreans outside of a few very rare occasions.
Heromarine got 4th place at last Katowice while Clem was... 12th?
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-13 10:17:30
January 13 2023 10:16 GMT
#20
i think if you can beat serral and reynor consistently, who are global contenders, you are a global contender yourself. Maybe he has a bad winrate vs koreans but a good bracket could easily fix that. I think byun is definitely good. his homestory cup run was impressive but overall cure had a better year than byun imo
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
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