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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
August 23 2007 04:23 GMT
#1
This is just a thought be a nice thing to have built into sc2

Maybe just a translator that will translate words that the designers have put in. From the join screen you should be able to see the map and rules. But I find myself in situations where ill go play a korean and when I select my race he'll go ZERG?????. Now we cant communicate, however I then wonder if I might have joined a game which was specifically no zergs or something.

If blizzard could just have a little database of words such as zerg, protoss, terran, map names, unit names, no, yes, that would automatically translate to your set language when you played, communicating with people who speak different languages could make the game much better. It would also promote people playing with people in different countries and a greater world wide community.

Haha just a thought personly i would like it in BW too...heh
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
August 23 2007 04:37 GMT
#2
that would actually kind of cool, being able to type in something in inglish and have it show up on their screen in korean, though it would take a long time to get something like that working I suppose, there are a lot of words you can possibly say hopefully they fix the thing where you go join a game in the melee catagory and you see a whole bunch of random characters because you can't support korean characters on your computer.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 23 2007 04:39 GMT
#3
I don't think it'll be necessary if they add an auto-matchup function a la War3. You'd see race, map, rules, and basically whatever you need to know without you needing to communicate with your opponent in any way
^-^
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 23 2007 04:50 GMT
#4
SCII will have full Korean language support in the US version. Just learn Korean.
I <3 서지훈
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 23 2007 04:53 GMT
#5
On August 23 2007 13:50 LonelyMargarita wrote:
SCII will have full Korean language support in the US version. Just learn Korean.


I don't think many people will be willing to learn Korean just for that -_-
^-^
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
August 23 2007 05:09 GMT
#6
Like a tiny built-in babelfish....that would be very cool. Its fun to play people from different countries and cultures.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
August 23 2007 05:14 GMT
#7
Lol have you ever tried to translate Korean through babelfish though? It would read like:
you: Hi, want to play a game?
them: Birds howl on the long hatchet.
you: huh?
them: gl hf
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 23 2007 05:16 GMT
#8
It will have anonymous match making. Maybe they'll give you options to vs people of specific race only, much like the option to 'thumbs down' certain maps etc.
Oh no
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
August 23 2007 05:45 GMT
#9
Haha well anyways all i was asking was like for us to be able to know what a game title says somewhat would be nice

"you: Hi, want to play a game?
them: Birds howl on the long hatchet.
you: huh?
them: gl hf"-luddite

Well that is more interesting to look at then random kor text
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 05:56:49
August 23 2007 05:54 GMT
#10
It'd be cool if they had automatic translations of certain phrases, they have it in Final Fantasy 11 and it's a really awesome feature. It just has certain phrases in green instead of normal white text indicating it's an automatically translated phrase to whatever region you're in (I think in FF11 it's from English to Chinese or something? I completely forgot what country whores that game hardcore). This is the first idea that I fully agree with on these forums in a LONG time.

edit: here's a poll just to see what other people think, maybe if we get enough of a positive response blizzard could actually pay attention to it?

[image loading]

Poll: Automatic Translations?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
August 23 2007 06:15 GMT
#11
Rather than automatic translations, you can have a combo box with selections of commonly used phrases like "hi", "ready?", "go", "thanks", "sorry", "hold on", etc.
Official Entusman #21
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 06:47:00
August 23 2007 06:46 GMT
#12
On August 23 2007 14:16 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Maybe they'll give you options to vs people of specific race only.


Ya. Then I won't have to play vs white people anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
that's a jk
I <3 서지훈
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 23 2007 06:46 GMT
#13
doing it is hard
google translator babel all of that have shitty translations

what can blizzard do
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 06:56:54
August 23 2007 06:56 GMT
#14
Name a game where they have anything close to this. Even simple programs like instant messengers dont have this.
Moonlight Shadow
fuglyfrog
Profile Joined July 2007
United States521 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 07:00:56
August 23 2007 07:00 GMT
#15
Waste of time. I doubt most people care about this "problem" and the few that do can just stop being lazy and learn a few Korean characters. Ask some Korean guy to make a "Essential Starcraft-Korean-Language Guide" or something.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 07:45:17
August 23 2007 07:35 GMT
#16
On August 23 2007 16:00 fuglyfrog wrote:
Waste of time. I doubt most people care about this "problem" and the few that do can just stop being lazy and learn a few Korean characters. Ask some Korean guy to make a "Essential Starcraft-Korean-Language Guide" or something.


Lol i would like to but im sorry if i cant read @#%^!@#!!!! or 1:1#@!$!!!!!! haha ill be happy if they give the us verson kor text support. Anyways its not like im saying i command them to i mean it's blizzard im sure they have the time to do it with a patch like they randomly add shiet anyways, its not liek im asking for a full translation of every word just some common words hell like porably less then 15 words max to like kor to eng to spanish to german to any random shit im sure they can do that full translations are hard but just a few words im sure they can cover that.Anyways the only thing that is a waste of time is your attitude and my typos.

(proably less of a waste of time then complaing to blizzard on how every unit looks and tell them to throw out months(not really months for 1 unit but it does take alot of work to get an art drawing into something like maya or mudbox things like that) of art graphics animation and modeling work becuase you dont like a weapon or something)
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 07:48:46
August 23 2007 07:47 GMT
#17
On August 23 2007 15:56 useless wrote:
Name a game where they have anything close to this. Even simple programs like instant messengers dont have this.


FFXI, and to the guy who forgot it's Japan.

http://www.chanpon.org/archive/2005/10/02/03h00m35s

"you guys are silly lol thats why i hate you people" berserkboar
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 17:36:08
August 23 2007 08:40 GMT
#18
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
August 23 2007 10:01 GMT
#19
On August 23 2007 15:46 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2007 14:16 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Maybe they'll give you options to vs people of specific race only.


Ya. Then I won't have to play vs white people anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
that's a jk

rofl
Do you really want chat rooms?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 23 2007 11:00 GMT
#20
On August 23 2007 15:15 infinity21 wrote:
Rather than automatic translations, you can have a combo box with selections of commonly used phrases like "hi", "ready?", "go", "thanks", "sorry", "hold on", etc.


I like that.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
August 23 2007 11:35 GMT
#21
I think its a good idea After you have used it for some time you will learn the words in korean too just by using them.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
August 23 2007 11:44 GMT
#22
good idea
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
August 23 2007 12:04 GMT
#23
On August 23 2007 20:35 DrainX wrote:
I think its a good idea After you have used it for some time you will learn the words in korean too just by using them.

Doesn't seem to me like you get to see the korean words at all...it's not a bad idea, but it'd be better if koreans just learnt english, and blizzard wouldn't support other languages (especially not french and german, they're annoying)
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
August 23 2007 13:58 GMT
#24
It's not possible. Computers can't translate language.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
August 23 2007 14:09 GMT
#25
On August 23 2007 22:58 BlackStar wrote:
It's not possible. Computers can't translate language.

Just wait a few more years
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
August 23 2007 14:10 GMT
#26
On August 23 2007 21:04 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2007 20:35 DrainX wrote:
I think its a good idea After you have used it for some time you will learn the words in korean too just by using them.

Doesn't seem to me like you get to see the korean words at all...it's not a bad idea, but it'd be better if koreans just learnt english, and blizzard wouldn't support other languages (especially not french and german, they're annoying)

Yeah... I wouldnt support it if it was implemented like that. I would want to see the message in korean before I sent it if there was translation ._. Like you have a separate inputline thats optional. If you write something there and press enter your message is translated to korean and pasted in your main inputline.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 17:26:31
August 23 2007 17:25 GMT
#27
On August 23 2007 22:58 BlackStar wrote:
It's not possible. Computers can't translate language.


Haha its not asking for like a translation of a sentance just some base words like yes no hold on and their variations when typed in say kor and sent to a eng user it will auto choose to put it in eng. computers can do that pretty much they just blow at making a sentence.

Anyways it helps both ends i mean i dont have a korean keyset and i dont plan on getting one so even if i can read korean no way in hell i can talk to them
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
August 23 2007 17:37 GMT
#28
On August 23 2007 13:23 IzzyCraft wrote:
This is just a thought be a nice thing to have built into sc2

Maybe just a translator that will translate words that the designers have put in. From the join screen you should be able to see the map and rules. But I find myself in situations where ill go play a korean and when I select my race he'll go ZERG?????. Now we cant communicate, however I then wonder if I might have joined a game which was specifically no zergs or something.

If blizzard could just have a little database of words such as zerg, protoss, terran, map names, unit names, no, yes, that would automatically translate to your set language when you played, communicating with people who speak different languages could make the game much better. It would also promote people playing with people in different countries and a greater world wide community.

Haha just a thought personly i would like it in BW too...heh


Hmm now this post looks familiar...
Looks like is a direct copy and paste of a post I made a month ago

I've actually thought about this issue a little more as well since making that post and I think the best way to implement this would be with a text based file that users could modify themselves. This way, blizzard would be able to launch the game with a few words that would be translated over, but the community could get involved and within a few months we could have every second word translated, making communication a lot easier with people of all different languages.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 23 2007 18:20 GMT
#29
On August 23 2007 15:46 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2007 14:16 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Maybe they\'ll give you options to vs people of specific race only.


Ya. Then I won\'t have to play vs white people anymore.

+ Show Spoiler +
that\'s a jk


Even though, it made me SIRL
^-^
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
August 23 2007 19:02 GMT
#30
On August 23 2007 23:09 Konni wrote:
It's not possible. Computers can't translate language.

Just wait a few more years[/QUOTE]



Nooo, release Starcraft II when it's done, not when we have software that can translate language.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
August 23 2007 19:22 GMT
#31
On August 24 2007 02:37 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2007 13:23 IzzyCraft wrote:
This is just a thought be a nice thing to have built into sc2

Maybe just a translator that will translate words that the designers have put in. From the join screen you should be able to see the map and rules. But I find myself in situations where ill go play a korean and when I select my race he'll go ZERG?????. Now we cant communicate, however I then wonder if I might have joined a game which was specifically no zergs or something.

If blizzard could just have a little database of words such as zerg, protoss, terran, map names, unit names, no, yes, that would automatically translate to your set language when you played, communicating with people who speak different languages could make the game much better. It would also promote people playing with people in different countries and a greater world wide community.

Haha just a thought personly i would like it in BW too...heh


Hmm now this post looks familiar...
Looks like is a direct copy and paste of a post I made a month ago

I've actually thought about this issue a little more as well since making that post and I think the best way to implement this would be with a text based file that users could modify themselves. This way, blizzard would be able to launch the game with a few words that would be translated over, but the community could get involved and within a few months we could have every second word translated, making communication a lot easier with people of all different languages.



Lol because that is a paste of a old comment on the blizzard fourms about helping out geting kor text to show up properly haha. i bet its older then your comment
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
August 24 2007 08:34 GMT
#32
On August 24 2007 04:22 IzzyCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2007 02:37 Fen wrote:
On August 23 2007 13:23 IzzyCraft wrote:
This is just a thought be a nice thing to have built into sc2

Maybe just a translator that will translate words that the designers have put in. From the join screen you should be able to see the map and rules. But I find myself in situations where ill go play a korean and when I select my race he'll go ZERG?????. Now we cant communicate, however I then wonder if I might have joined a game which was specifically no zergs or something.

If blizzard could just have a little database of words such as zerg, protoss, terran, map names, unit names, no, yes, that would automatically translate to your set language when you played, communicating with people who speak different languages could make the game much better. It would also promote people playing with people in different countries and a greater world wide community.

Haha just a thought personly i would like it in BW too...heh


Hmm now this post looks familiar...
Looks like is a direct copy and paste of a post I made a month ago

I've actually thought about this issue a little more as well since making that post and I think the best way to implement this would be with a text based file that users could modify themselves. This way, blizzard would be able to launch the game with a few words that would be translated over, but the community could get involved and within a few months we could have every second word translated, making communication a lot easier with people of all different languages.



Lol because that is a paste of a old comment on the blizzard fourms about helping out geting kor text to show up properly haha. i bet its older then your comment


.. Smart man, and who posted this on the bliizard forums I wonder???? Go find that post, and specifically the name of the poster and get back to me.
joeki
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden292 Posts
August 24 2007 08:53 GMT
#33
Obviously they can only translate a few words. Doing more than that requires just as much time as making the game and it will probably still suck (like babblefish) since Blizzard are game-makers not translators.

But only few words like "hi", "yes", "no", "ready", "wait", "go" might work. BUT... are they really necessary? Who in the world that has a computer doesn't know those words in english already? Even those who don't know any english still understands yes or no or go.

The other way around I can see a purpose. If koreans or germans HAVE to write their own language it might be hard for the rest of the world. Well, remove germans from that. I believe most people knows what "Ja" and "Nein" means. If koreans write in hangul, then ok it's impossible to understand. But making a whole translation thing just because of that is ridicilous. It won't be a big problem since we will have different servers. In wc3, europeans play on europe and koreans play on asia. It is not like in BW where everyone plays on all servers. And since SC2 will most likely use automatchmaking which equals people play where the lag is the lowest, it won't be a problem I think.
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