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TY to begin military service in 2021 (June-July)

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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation192 Posts
February 01 2021 09:24 GMT
#26
and thus the protoss era begins now
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
February 01 2021 09:34 GMT
#27
On February 01 2021 10:54 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2021 07:27 hegemony wrote:
Won't we be getting Classic and Gumiho back in June/july??


ByuL and Leenock will end their service around then as well, though ionno if any of them intend to play SC2 again

It sounded like Gumiho and Classic might be interested in coming back? I hope so much that Leenock makes a comeback, always been a fan of him. Byul was cool too. It seems so difficult to come back and make it to the top though.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4247 Posts
February 01 2021 09:35 GMT
#28
On February 01 2021 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
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On February 01 2021 17:37 Harris1st wrote:
On February 01 2021 17:10 sneakyfox wrote:
Shocking and very sad since he could probably have postponed it until 2022.

I can understand why he would jump at the chance to go to aux. police instead of the military before that option is removed, but as a progamer it makes little sense imo. When he's done it will be just in time to not qualify for Katowice 2023. That is also the time when Blizzard's contract with ESL expires. One has to be a pretty big optimist to imagine the EPT and GSL being played beyond that date in something resembling the current setup. I don't really know what it is TY expects to be able to return to.


Pretty much this. Was hoping he'd delay as much as possible.

I guess there will still be SC2 when he comes back, questions is if it's enough to be a fulltime SC2 pro

I love how everyone expects him to return to the SC 2

good point..
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
February 01 2021 12:26 GMT
#29
On February 01 2021 17:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2021 17:37 Harris1st wrote:
On February 01 2021 17:10 sneakyfox wrote:
Shocking and very sad since he could probably have postponed it until 2022.

I can understand why he would jump at the chance to go to aux. police instead of the military before that option is removed, but as a progamer it makes little sense imo. When he's done it will be just in time to not qualify for Katowice 2023. That is also the time when Blizzard's contract with ESL expires. One has to be a pretty big optimist to imagine the EPT and GSL being played beyond that date in something resembling the current setup. I don't really know what it is TY expects to be able to return to.


Pretty much this. Was hoping he'd delay as much as possible.

I guess there will still be SC2 when he comes back, questions is if it's enough to be a fulltime SC2 pro

I love how everyone expects him to return to the SC 2


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Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
February 01 2021 15:06 GMT
#30
IM BROKEN
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 01 2021 16:52 GMT
#31
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 01 2021 17:01 GMT
#32
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


I doubt there will be any SC2 worth returning to by then. But if there was, I am quite sure he would try to return? He is one of the best after all even though he has side gigs like the casting and broodwar.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-01 17:20:44
February 01 2021 17:20 GMT
#33
Sad, truly the end of an era... Hopefully there is still some sc2 pro scene when he's finished with it...
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 01 2021 18:17 GMT
#34
On February 02 2021 02:20 Poopi wrote:
Sad, truly the end of an era... Hopefully there is still some sc2 pro scene when he's finished with it...

The Blizz deal should be ending by then, so there will be SC2 pro scene. How long it lasts is a different question. And I honestly believe there can be one, just smaller. And probably funded from China(unless they run out of love for the game(they're so rich I doubt they run out of money))
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26575 Posts
February 01 2021 18:31 GMT
#35
On February 02 2021 02:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


I doubt there will be any SC2 worth returning to by then. But if there was, I am quite sure he would try to return? He is one of the best after all even though he has side gigs like the casting and broodwar.

Maybe he’s accomplished his main goals and finding that motivation is getting harder? You have to be really dedicated to a singular thing for years and years to play at this level, I don’t think it’s that surprising his casting gig brought with it a boost in results.

All speculation without TY speaking about it I suppose.

The scene really desperately needs at least some of the next batch of military returnees to get back to the game and really in shape, departures from the Korean scene are really starting to bite.
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 01 2021 19:15 GMT
#36
On February 02 2021 03:31 WombaT wrote:
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On February 02 2021 02:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


I doubt there will be any SC2 worth returning to by then. But if there was, I am quite sure he would try to return? He is one of the best after all even though he has side gigs like the casting and broodwar.

Maybe he’s accomplished his main goals and finding that motivation is getting harder? You have to be really dedicated to a singular thing for years and years to play at this level, I don’t think it’s that surprising his casting gig brought with it a boost in results.

All speculation without TY speaking about it I suppose.

The scene really desperately needs at least some of the next batch of military returnees to get back to the game and really in shape, departures from the Korean scene are really starting to bite.


True, and what other RTS games are worth playing right now?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 01 2021 20:46 GMT
#37
On February 02 2021 04:15 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2021 03:31 WombaT wrote:
On February 02 2021 02:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


I doubt there will be any SC2 worth returning to by then. But if there was, I am quite sure he would try to return? He is one of the best after all even though he has side gigs like the casting and broodwar.

Maybe he’s accomplished his main goals and finding that motivation is getting harder? You have to be really dedicated to a singular thing for years and years to play at this level, I don’t think it’s that surprising his casting gig brought with it a boost in results.

All speculation without TY speaking about it I suppose.

The scene really desperately needs at least some of the next batch of military returnees to get back to the game and really in shape, departures from the Korean scene are really starting to bite.


True, and what other RTS games are worth playing right now?

AoE 2 DE and most probably AoE 4 when he returns.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26575 Posts
February 01 2021 22:03 GMT
#38
On February 02 2021 04:15 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2021 03:31 WombaT wrote:
On February 02 2021 02:01 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


I doubt there will be any SC2 worth returning to by then. But if there was, I am quite sure he would try to return? He is one of the best after all even though he has side gigs like the casting and broodwar.

Maybe he’s accomplished his main goals and finding that motivation is getting harder? You have to be really dedicated to a singular thing for years and years to play at this level, I don’t think it’s that surprising his casting gig brought with it a boost in results.

All speculation without TY speaking about it I suppose.

The scene really desperately needs at least some of the next batch of military returnees to get back to the game and really in shape, departures from the Korean scene are really starting to bite.


True, and what other RTS games are worth playing right now?

Brood War, at least if you’re TY anyway.

Again I’m unsure what he thinks about the whole scenario himself. Returning from service to get back to the top of the mountain is no cakewalk, would be cool to see him try.

On the other hand he could probably pull in decent money streaming and playing semi-competitively on Afreeca, cast SC2 on the side and probably build an easier transition to a non-eSports life if that would be something he would want to do.

If TY had not had the great success he’s had in GSL in recent times I’d think he’d be way more likely to come back than given what he’s accomplished. I mean what real unfinished business does he have?

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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
February 02 2021 00:12 GMT
#39
NOOO! Not TY! You're not going to take away our BaBy from us! Honestly as I said multiple times fuck mandatory military.
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col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
February 02 2021 05:02 GMT
#40
Nooooooo. Damn! It was inevitable, but still sad to hear it.
gpanda2018
Profile Joined July 2019
3 Posts
February 02 2021 08:49 GMT
#41
TY IS MY ONLY LOVE IN STARCRAFT 2. 😭😭😭

BEST WISHES FOR THE NEXT STAGE OF YOUR LIFE, TY. ❤️🤟
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
February 02 2021 13:27 GMT
#42
oh no....
That military service that kills programer carriers...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33587 Posts
February 02 2021 15:34 GMT
#43
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


he said he doesn't want to call it "retirement," but didn't commit to a return to SC2 either.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
February 02 2021 16:33 GMT
#44
On February 03 2021 00:34 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2021 01:52 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Has he said if he plans on coming back to SC2 post service?


he said he doesn't want to call it "retirement," but didn't commit to a return to SC2 either.

Makes sense that he can't really commit to SC2 what with his service ending as the ESL deal expires.
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Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-12 13:36:03
February 12 2021 13:34 GMT
#45
Ah shit, hope he doesn't end up like other progamers that went to auxiliary police.

For those who are unaware, there is this unfortunate coincidence where Calm and Effort, some of the top Zergs (right below JD) in Broodwar era, went to the auxiliary police and their skills dropped HARD. Calm now rarely plays Broodwar and has turned into a LoL streamer, while Effort has gone from Flash-killing monster to a tier 2 zerg.
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