Today, NVT's Bunny(T) qualified to DH 2020 Last chances but it has been a hard day for us to endure announce this statement. Team NV officially determined to announce that Cho Seong Ju (Maru,T) was injured in the shoulder with serious pain and he will be in the injury treatment period. Team NV will prepare to support connecting the specialized hospital to treat him and reducing financial burdens. Cho Seong Ju had appealed about his pain before entering the team and his physical condition is not good enough to continue the ordinary life. We, Team NV will not spare any support until Maru is in his best condition. Now, Team NV could not certain that Maru continue the remained matches of TSL6 but he would definitely participate in "Theatre of Dreams". at 18,Dec,2020. Thank you for reading this statement and we Team NV will do our best for Maru to recovery his condition as soon as fast.
Hope he takes it seriously. Too many of these sc2 players getting injured because it's such a demanding game but I feel that the physical science side of things hasn't caught up with it yet, so we have guys with a lot of drive mistreating their bodies and then not fully recovering.
On December 11 2020 00:54 travis wrote: Hope he takes it seriously. Too many of these sc2 players getting injured because it's such a demanding game but I feel that the physical science side of things hasn't caught up with it yet, so we have guys with a lot of drive mistreating their bodies and then not fully recovering.
Yeah, so many top terrans such as Maru and ByuN getting injured, either wrists or shoulders. I know PartinG has back issues too.
I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
This is so sad to read; wonder if his shoulder injury can ever be completely healed. Wishing him a speedy recovery. Hope a physical therapist can alleviate the pain and get him back on the right track.
I was wondering on how he was doing given his recent performances after ASUS ROG Online 2020.
Time and time again we're seeing this kind of trend.. with Mvp, Taeja, now ByuN and Maru.
I hope he will recover and get well soon. Team NV being supportive is nice to ear.
I don't understand why he will play those "Theatre of Dreams" games of all games left for him to play, but I hope he will not overplay his hand (or shoulder...)
On December 11 2020 01:41 Serimek wrote: I hope he will recover and get well soon. Team NV being supportive is nice to ear.
I don't understand why he will play those "Theatre of Dreams" games of all games left for him to play, but I hope he will not overplay his hand (or shoulder...)
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.
Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here. Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible
Sad to hear but expected given his recent results, and the pain displayed during KoB and other tournaments with facecam... The Terran greats catch no break
Watching the Bunny vs Maru series was painful, didn't seem like the usual Maru. We have known about this issue for a long time but it doesn't make it less sad. Both Maru and ByuN har having serious problems and I hope somehow they can improve but it seems unlikely if they dont stop playing.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.
Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here. Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible
Eh, I agree players of all races can get injured, but there is a reason most of them are terran, there is no reason to look away. Ofc this is something that cant be fixed anymore, hope everyone recovers.
On December 11 2020 02:32 MockHamill wrote: I wonder how many injures would have been avoided if Blizzard had made mech viable on pro level 8 years ago.
Since it’s utterly boring to play and watch the game would probably be dead for real already
On December 11 2020 02:32 MockHamill wrote: I wonder how many injures would have been avoided if Blizzard had made mech viable on pro level 8 years ago.
Since it’s utterly boring to play and watch the game would probably be dead for real already
So making mech viable would have, by killing the game, avoided a lot of Starcraft related injuries.
how come innovation and ty dont have health issues? is it cuz of their style play? i understand ty uses his head more then his wrist and shoulders though.
On December 11 2020 03:29 Riner1212 wrote: how come innovation and ty dont have health issues? is it cuz of their style play? i understand ty uses his head more then his wrist and shoulders though.
We don't know, usually we know about the injury only if the player goes to a doctor publically or shares the thing. And the latter isn't much common. In other words we know once it gets really bad.
On December 11 2020 03:29 Riner1212 wrote: how come innovation and ty dont have health issues? is it cuz of their style play? i understand ty uses his head more then his wrist and shoulders though.
We don't know, usually we know about the injury only if the player goes to a doctor publically or shares the thing. And the latter isn't much common. In other words we know once it gets really bad.
Yeah. Denver has some sort of elbow injury ; yet I bet not many people on TL know, especially if they aren't french.
I knew he looked horrible the other night vs Rogue but I didn't want to think it was because he was hurt. This fucking sucks. Get well Maru! Hopefully we see you at Katowice.
On December 11 2020 03:29 Riner1212 wrote: how come innovation and ty dont have health issues? is it cuz of their style play? i understand ty uses his head more then his wrist and shoulders though.
We don't know, usually we know about the injury only if the player goes to a doctor publically or shares the thing. And the latter isn't much common. In other words we know once it gets really bad.
Yeah. Denver has some sort of elbow injury ; yet I bet not many people on TL know, especially if they aren't french.
Honestly, it was silly to play SC2 with dinosaur arms from the get-go.
On December 11 2020 04:22 Vindicare605 wrote: I knew he looked horrible the other night vs Rogue but I didn't want to think it was because he was hurt. This fucking sucks. Get well Maru! Hopefully we see you at Katowice.
Luckily Maru is already locked in for the main stage, so he could take it easy for a while just to recover.
On December 11 2020 03:29 Riner1212 wrote: how come innovation and ty dont have health issues? is it cuz of their style play? i understand ty uses his head more then his wrist and shoulders though.
After winning GSL S3, TY was even able to take a whole November to train himself to pick up his SC1 skills and finally got runner-up in BJ Destruction Team Match Season 2.
Good for Maru to be on treatment. Hope he gets better soon.
The one they need to strap in a chair and give medical treatment and not let touch a computer is Byun. His injuries are no joke and if he keeps doing it he will have big lasting damage that will affect much more than his starcraft career.
On December 11 2020 06:05 [Phantom] wrote: Good for Maru to be on treatment. Hope he gets better soon.
The one they need to strap in a chair and give medical treatment and not let touch a computer is Byun. His injuries are no joke and if he keeps doing it he will have big lasting damage that will affect much more than his starcraft career.
Especially when he is playing 3 online events a day like it's nothing.
Dark also have problems with his wrist starting this year, then he fall down to the form he is now, and I personally think that he is using less banelings because of this. When he engage with banelings he also do the splitings that terrans do.
Almost forgot how Parting also have problem with his back/shoulder? I don't quite remember
On December 11 2020 07:04 Howard_Kao wrote: Dark also have problems with his wrist starting this year, then he fall down to the form he is now, and I personally think that he is using less banelings because of this. When he engage with banelings he also do the splitings that terrans do.
Almost forgot how Parting also have problem with his back/shoulder? I don't quite remember
parting has a herniated disc in his neck. I believe parting said maru has the same injury but they just say "back" because its easier to say.
Herniated discs in your neck are awful because they affect your wrists like how low back affects your legs.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.
Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here. Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible
As far as I can recall, though I may be wrong, Terran players tend to have more cases.
Mvp, Taeja, Maru, Flash, Byun, Boxer, randomrace TLO had it, I think Thorzain as well. Zergs and Protoss may of course have injuries too but it is quite clear at least from the cases we know that Terran players are more likely to develop these issues.
maru should take a few months off to be honest to prolong his career. i would do that if i was him, id come back bigger, stronger and faster if i was him.
Sad reality of physical competition that pushes bodies to the limit is that those who do push themselves to be the very best are likely to end up with injuries performing their craft. At least he didn't find passion/success in combat sports.
I've always felt that Terran is powerful but too demanding. I would advocate for Terran to be at the same power level, or even lower (gasp!), but more accessible - without having insane skills or insane sacrifice of health.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
I call BS
Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro?
Why it's happening only for terran players. Is there is a malédiction or something against genius terran players. MVP Taeja Byun now Maru. Who is next ? TY.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
Sc2 Players of all races have had injurie related Problems, it s not just/mostly Terran.
Realy good to see Team NV taking care for their Players here. Lets hope for Maru to recover as soon as possible
As far as I can recall, though I may be wrong, Terran players tend to have more cases.
Mvp, Taeja, Maru, Flash, Byun, Boxer, randomrace TLO had it, I think Thorzain as well. Zergs and Protoss may of course have injuries too but it is quite clear at least from the cases we know that Terran players are more likely to develop these issues.
Zerg and protoss players are tough as nails, and don't complaint about little things like pain On a serious note: hope Maru has the patience to take care of the problems, so that it wont became a chronic issue.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
I call BS
Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro?
I think many players keep their injuries private as well unless it becomes such an issue its impossible to not talk about.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
I call BS
Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro?
First of all I already said it was questionable so keep it down calling things BS. And yes I have seen how Zerg and Protosses micro; I am not saying their micro is less intense, just different from a mechanical perspective.
I still think Terran is required to do far more box splitting with drastic hand movements. Blink micro, for example, does not require as much boxing selection but more individual unit-clicking one, same goes for spellcaster units.
Also it is curious how players from other races are less vocal about their injuries compared to Terran, maybe it is because there actually are less cases out there.
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
I call BS
Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro?
I’d say he’s on the money, by and large.
As someone who has had wrist problems from other sources I’ve looked into various ways of alleviating it, some quite successfully (dropped my DPI way down, for example). If you require a mixture of wrist and arm movement for certain mouse movements you spread the load so to speak, vs a high DPI where you’re just moving your wrist over a small range of movement repetitively, and that’s asking for trouble.
My wrist issues are primarily in my right hand (my picking hand for guitar), and my mouse hand. Bit of a bummer because my two main loves hobby wise are guitar and RTS games, but I was getting the early warning signs of carpal tunnel, numbness etc so I have to be careful.
Anecdotally Terran is playable for me on a casual level, not without discomfort after an hour or two, not much difference between Toss and Zerg.
I’d say it’s because you’re constantly boxing as mentioned, splitting and stutter stepping both forwards and backwards. Not that it’s more skilful than the micro the other races but it’s more mechanically repetitive.
That said there’s plenty of different ways to have your wrists injured, can be affected by back injuries etc too
Wasn't Maru carrying around wrist-, arm- and shoulderpain for quite some time now? He is young and has a won a lot of money already, skipping a GSL could have been smart(er), but anyway.
As for the discussion about those type of injuries in general: It seems like something a lot of SC players (either BW or 2) suffer with in some way. Probably the combination of a very demanding game and the fact that most of them are not in teams anymore, especially if you compare those teams to for example League of Legends. Players just don't get the medical care they need (and deserve) as athletes. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. "Back in the day" no one cared about stuff like that, not even in korea (didn't BoxeR quit SC2 because of an injury?). But now, those guys put themselves in the meat-grinder, without getting cared for properly. You don't see injuries like that in LoL and rarely in CS:GO. Those players seem to be suffering more on the mental side of things, which is also really bad, but that's not the topic here...
On December 11 2020 01:13 Steelghost1 wrote: I have a questionable theory which proposes that, because top Terran players have to focus in fights where tiny boxing selection commands are key to win (marine marauder splitting, individual reaper micro if you are Byun, etc), their wrist/hand and body movements tend to be more abrupt and tense than if we compare the kind of micro requirements players of other races have to make; for example, spellcasting is micro intensive but it does not require the player to manually box and split units.
If these players are training for several hours a day hundreds of days a year, these tiny differences in mouse movement styles pile up and in the long run create problems for Terran players like Taeja, Maru, Byun, etc...
Btw, I am not advocating for Terran superiority in any form over the other races. I am just pointing out that control requirements are different and they may explain why players of a certain race are better known to have hand, wrist or joint problems.
I call BS
Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro?
Those are not that common TBH. Because of friendly fire, if a group of lings a-move into a Terran army, its almost as good as splitting them to avoid damage because the mines hit both sides. I've seen both, and that's the point. Zergs can choose to either have a relatively effective a-move or slightly more effective splits. For Terrans, the micro is "do or die" - there is no choice.
On December 11 2020 13:38 Pentarp wrote: I've always felt that Terran is powerful but too demanding. I would advocate for Terran to be at the same power level, or even lower (gasp!), but more accessible - without having insane skills or insane sacrifice of health.
Terran is no more demanding than Zerg and Protoss, other than TvT being longer than the other mirror matchups.
On December 11 2020 13:38 Pentarp wrote: I've always felt that Terran is powerful but too demanding. I would advocate for Terran to be at the same power level, or even lower (gasp!), but more accessible - without having insane skills or insane sacrifice of health.
Terran is no more demanding than Zerg and Protoss, other than TvT being longer than the other mirror matchups.
On your wrists though? Really not so sure of that. Skill being distinct from the mechanical demands on one’s body. I don’t think it’s coincidence that high-profile injuries have skewed Terran pretty heavily in SC2, that Mvp played a certain style when his body went etc.
I don’t believe BW has as pronounced a skew racially in terms of injuries, I would postulate that’s because constant small boxing is a requirement to play all the races in the game, but it’s way more a Terran thing.
In my case partly bad habits in my youth as well but playing hard rock/metal stuff is way, way more taxing on my wrists than playing classical fingerpicked stuff. The latter is as demanding if not more so in a skill/coordination sense but it taxes my wrists way less.
On December 12 2020 11:41 Balnazza wrote: Wasn't Maru carrying around wrist-, arm- and shoulderpain for quite some time now? He is young and has a won a lot of money already, skipping a GSL could have been smart(er), but anyway.
As for the discussion about those type of injuries in general: It seems like something a lot of SC players (either BW or 2) suffer with in some way. Probably the combination of a very demanding game and the fact that most of them are not in teams anymore, especially if you compare those teams to for example League of Legends. Players just don't get the medical care they need (and deserve) as athletes. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. "Back in the day" no one cared about stuff like that, not even in korea (didn't BoxeR quit SC2 because of an injury?). But now, those guys put themselves in the meat-grinder, without getting cared for properly. You don't see injuries like that in LoL and rarely in CS:GO. Those players seem to be suffering more on the mental side of things, which is also really bad, but that's not the topic here...
I believe he had a doctors appointment several months ago where he was told he should only be playing a maximum of 3 games a day. Was funny to me at the time cos he said it during what ended up being a 2+ hour stream (was mostly typing to chat though/playing customs). Its why I really wanted him to win vs TY when he made the final.
This title sounded ominous along the line of "someone has passed away" :hair standing on end. TSL casters assuming Serral-Maru match hasn't happened recently also eroded legitimacy here and there.
On December 13 2020 09:42 serralfan18 wrote: Maru to lose against Serral ONLY because of his shoulder. I already know this will happen.
The curse of Serral vs Maru states that a BoX series can never happen between them in a Premier tournament. As a result, I am not believing that this match will actually happen until I see it happen. Knowing the curse though, Maru will forfeit due to his injury and we will continue to never see it.
On December 13 2020 09:42 serralfan18 wrote: Maru to lose against Serral ONLY because of his shoulder. I already know this will happen.
The curse of Serral vs Maru states that a BoX series can never happen between them in a Premier tournament. As a result, I am not believing that this match will actually happen until I see it happen. Knowing the curse though, Maru will forfeit due to his injury and we will continue to never see it.
bo3 happened in King of Battles where Maru lost 2-1... It is listed as premier in Liquipedia so it happened once.
Wait are people just now finding out about Maru's injuries? He's had problems since forever. Choosing to take time off to deal with wrist injuries was the reason he didn't join SKT in 2012/13.
On December 13 2020 09:42 serralfan18 wrote: Maru to lose against Serral ONLY because of his shoulder. I already know this will happen.
The curse of Serral vs Maru states that a BoX series can never happen between them in a Premier tournament. As a result, I am not believing that this match will actually happen until I see it happen. Knowing the curse though, Maru will forfeit due to his injury and we will continue to never see it.
bo3 happened in King of Battles where Maru lost 2-1... It is listed as premier in Liquipedia so it happened once.
Most probably wouldn't consider those kind of online events to be worthy of the "Premier" tag, despite what liquipedia says.
When you have possibly the most mechanically proficient terran and zerg ever, people are not going to be satisfied with a cross server match. Had it been bo7 instead of bo3 it still wouldn't deliver what people want. Even Serral said it's fun but not really a proper meeting.
On December 14 2020 05:13 Riner1212 wrote: not sure why hes playing in tsl.
He lost to Serral for a legitimate reason. In King of Battles, Jinair didn't reveal his injured shoulder. Its only been worse since then. Any top 25 player can now beat Maru.
On December 14 2020 05:13 Riner1212 wrote: not sure why hes playing in tsl.
He lost to Serral for a legitimate reason. In King of Battles, Jinair didn't reveal his injured shoulder. Its only been worse since then. Any top 25 player can now beat Maru.
Well Maru played poor and lost correct. But ASUS Rog was about 2 weeks ago and he beat Clem, Solar, Reynor and Showtime. Not to excuse Marus poor performance vs Serral but at Asus ROG the time they played was more balanced for both players imo. I mean I doubt the biorhythm of a standard pro gamer is used to playing at 6 in the morning
On December 14 2020 05:13 Riner1212 wrote: not sure why hes playing in tsl.
He lost to Serral for a legitimate reason. In King of Battles, Jinair didn't reveal his injured shoulder. Its only been worse since then. Any top 25 player can now beat Maru.
Well Maru played poor and lost correct. But ASUS Rog was about 2 weeks ago and he beat Clem, Solar, Reynor and Showtime. Not to excuse Marus poor performance vs Serral but at Asus ROG the time they played was more balanced for both players imo. I mean I doubt the biorhythm of a standard pro gamer is used to playing at 6 in the morning
THe big question is what does it do with the pain. If he's in pain and on the top of that sleepy, well... it;'s obvious excuses, as would tell you many
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poor Maru
Theatre of Dreams
On a serious note: hope Maru has the patience to take care of the problems, so that it wont became a chronic issue.
