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dbRic1203

Germany2655 Posts

September 24 2020 12:45 GMT

#61

On September 23 2020 19:11 followZeRoX wrote:
I wrote few things :

1. Players could use some other colors instead of red vs blue,

2. ESL could force players to use skins and promote them that way with % of payment to ESL to fund other tournaments,

3. Caster's rewamp,

4. Fewer games a day in group stage, it's too stacked and sometimes you can't watch 4 streams in the same time,

5. Quit regional lock politics and mix it up.

To 1: red and blue are just the best option for color blind viewers, as they will allways be easy to tell apart, wich isn t the case for a lot of other colors

To 5: splitting into the regions was done to have most of the competiotion without cross server play and we also have the global season final on top, where all regions, compete together

serralfan18

99 Posts

September 26 2020 07:41 GMT

#62

On September 23 2020 21:56 Balnazza wrote:

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On September 23 2020 18:52 serralfan18 wrote:

On September 21 2020 23:52 Balnazza wrote:

I'm pretty sure ESL can find legal loopholes around any travel bans - they can just hire some law consultants or talk to lawyers.

As for Korea, I went there in the middle of the pandemic. Regarding the two week quarantine thing, you can stay at a friend or family's house and isolate for two weeks. So they can all stay in the Jinair Team House or a Korean friend's house like Tasteless or Artosis. I'm sure they are willing to help out ESL in the name of Esports.
Then they play the weekend tournament from the dorms/apartments/houses on the KR server. It's really that simple.

I do not get why ESL is trying to make this so complicated.

1)Why make it an offline event, when players have to play from a hotel anyway?
2)The ESL is in full-charge of this, so they probably wouldn't play from korea. Instead, they would chose one of their studios (Burbank, Cologne or Leicester I think?). Cologne/Germany would be the obvious choice. In germany, everyone coming from a high-risk country (which is basically everything) has to be in quarantine for five to fourteen days. That includes casters, players and potential other stuff. And they probably have to be in quarantine on their return, too, which could result in some koreans not to be able to play GSL in the following week.
3)ESL isn't even doing their Counterstrike vents offline, even though those probably generate much more money than SC2. So when CS isn't possible, why should they do Starcraft? It is just unnessecary.
4)All teams in the LEC (League of Legends) are living in Berlin, but even THEY didn't go to the studio, also located in Berlin. They played from their respective teamhouses. So ESL would always have to answer the question, why they took such a huge risk with a relatively small event like the SC2 Masters

1. Playing online all on the same server will drastically reduce lag and make games more fair.
2. If quarantine is what it takes, then so be it. Make it a longer tournament. Europe is fine. NA is fine. As long as they all play on the same server all the time. I suggested Korea because they have cheap and effective Covid 19 plans that's way more advanced than any country.
3. They cam do CS and SC2 and all of their games offline at some outdoor area to mitigate spread of covid 19. Same thing as outdoor dining.
4. SC2 is not dying as you suggest. Its 100% worth the investment.

1. Yes, but it still would be from a hotel, which might not even be equipped for that. 12 players have to finance that themselves (when you do it in korea), since ESL probably won't pay for it.
2. Longer tournaments don't equal more payment. On the contrary, the hype diminishes and the viewership decline.
3. They can't do it...because if they could, they would. Those events are spread all around the globe and players had to go into quarantine every time. It is just not working and WAY too expensive.
4. I'm not saying SC2 is dying, but that it is much smaller than LoL or CS. It is worth the investment, but not on a scale that you suggest.

No offense, but you seem kind of naive about this topic. Like ESL had an infinite amount of money that they could spend on SC2 to make it offline in current times. While every other global esport is on hold/switched to online. Probably the only big offline event we will get are the League of Legend World Finals. But those are in China for a whole month without visitors and are the last competition of the year. And even that event won't have english shoutcasters on side, they will work from EU and NA.
The only alternative to the current DH Masters system is...none. We just skip global competition for a whole year. Can't see why that would ever hurt the game, right?

For budget, I suggested lowering the prize pool a bit. They can also ask fans for donations like Valve does for DotA. They can start a Go Fund Me. There are tons of possibilities for fund raising.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

September 29 2020 06:49 GMT

#63

On September 23 2020 22:40 neptunusfisk wrote:
Stream on Youtube instead. The Twitch vod interface is garbage and not being able to rewind the stream whilst it's still live is annoying.

Pls no. The Youtube audio desync is frustrating as all hell.

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