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ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
June 14 2007 00:12 GMT
#201
Why is it all so blue? Where is the yellow?
Not that that would matter a lot, but still.

Colossus, mothership, reapers and now these star relics that cloak your base. Seems very similar to CnC.
I'm not saying this is all bad, but I hope it will have the SC feel to it.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
June 14 2007 00:15 GMT
#202
On June 14 2007 09:12 ShAsTa wrote:
Why is it all so blue? Where is the yellow?
Not that that would matter a lot, but still.

Colossus, mothership, reapers and now these star relics that cloak your base. Seems very similar to CnC.
I'm not saying this is all bad, but I hope it will have the SC feel to it.



what? there are still so many sc units! i think it looks very scish
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Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 14 2007 00:16 GMT
#203
As much as I like the dark blue, DT feel. Some more yellow protoss units would be more than welcome.
FA_Leinad
Profile Joined February 2004
Germany48 Posts
June 14 2007 00:16 GMT
#204
i like the blue more and dont forget it prolly shows the influence the dark templars now have on the protoss society and technology.

Btw its not like CnC invented cloak, also it doesnt really matter because not everything CnC did is bad and because it will be used and work totaly different in sc2 (we dont even know in which way buildings can be cloaked).
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
June 14 2007 00:24 GMT
#205
buuuuuuuuuuuh give terran and zerg some luv!
Seriously...enough with the protoss thing...gimme some hardcore terran & zerg units.
tubster68
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada59 Posts
June 14 2007 00:33 GMT
#206
Who says you can't micro with lasers?... O_o
AND they are colored blue because they are supposed to be Dark..
When terran and zerg comes you would probably forget about what you said of it being too WC3ish..
do not major in minor things
Prose
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada314 Posts
June 14 2007 00:39 GMT
#207
You can't cannon rush that early since to phase the cannons, you need the phase prism, a Robotics unit. Teching to Robotics take a while... and who knows, the phasing might take a while as an upgrade or whatever.
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Pretorian-[DMK]
Profile Joined October 2006
Netherlands49 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 01:12:20
June 14 2007 01:06 GMT
#208
@Tubster68

You sound the same as the people who beta tested war3, sucking up where it is.

"You have to play the game as it how it is supposed to be"
"You'll see the game is totally different in the next patch. The version you're playing is almost a month old."

Their track record with Warcraft 3 is pretty bad. And the staff is slightly different than that of their previous games. Unfortunately, despite the fact that Blizzard has a very talented group of developers, they severely lack people in their employ who can skillfully play the game at it's highest levels...well maybe Pillars can..and analyse what works and what doesn't. They most definitely NEED the derogatory comments that are being put forth by us, because these are vital to starcraft 2 being released a good game.

And guess what, they never fully restyled war3 and look what kind of garbage we got. Starcraft fanatics are just afraid history is gonna repeat itself...
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NatsuTerran
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States364 Posts
June 14 2007 01:11 GMT
#209
It's hard to say what effect continuous laser 0 cooldown attacks would have on gameplay, but from what it looks like some micro (such as moving injured units to the back) would be negated as the laser would just follow them. As for the cartoony graphics, I think we are all just used to playing the same game for so many years. But yes, the buildings don't seem as sharp. One of the things I dislike the most that no one has mentioned is the view. It really irritates me the way the screen views the map almost directly down instead of a slant. And I know you would be able to change it but this is just something that has always diverted my attention to sitting and watching battles rather than playing the game.
Sudyn
Profile Joined May 2007
United States744 Posts
June 14 2007 01:41 GMT
#210
So even if the Zergling or Marine doesn't have a soul, the Soul Hunter could still adapt the living force of any biological or mechanical energy left in the unit and augment its attack power with that. It doesn't literally have to take something's soul out - that's just the unit description. Maybe that's just how the Protoss portray it.

And by the way, Blizzard is hiring high-level gamers to help balance and work the game for them, so we won't have that problem.
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Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 14 2007 01:41 GMT
#211
On June 14 2007 10:06 Pretorian-[DMK] wrote:
@Tubster68

You sound the same as the people who beta tested war3, sucking up where it is.

"You have to play the game as it how it is supposed to be"
"You'll see the game is totally different in the next patch. The version you're playing is almost a month old."

Their track record with Warcraft 3 is pretty bad. And the staff is slightly different than that of their previous games. Unfortunately, despite the fact that Blizzard has a very talented group of developers, they severely lack people in their employ who can skillfully play the game at it's highest levels...well maybe Pillars can..and analyse what works and what doesn't. They most definitely NEED the derogatory comments that are being put forth by us, because these are vital to starcraft 2 being released a good game.

And guess what, they never fully restyled war3 and look what kind of garbage we got. Starcraft fanatics are just afraid history is gonna repeat itself...


Exactly, "Starcraft" fans were let down by Warcraft because it wasn't like SC. I for one expected to be more like War2 and I was pleased with the result. They never planned to make it like SC and have stated this plenty of times. It kills me that every thread turns into a WC3 vs SC with everyone bitching about how SC2 is gonna suck fot stupid reason. "Oh no the terrain looks like WC3." Its fucking grass, How else do you want it to look.

If SC is so perfect, then you can keep on playing it after SC2 but shut up and leave the rest of us to enjoy whats coming.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 01:51:11
June 14 2007 01:50 GMT
#212
I don't get why u cant micro with lasers? You can still hit and run vs melee units I would assume. You should also still be able to rotate hunt units out of range just like before. I can see what people are saying about it making things hard to see but micro should still be basicly the same right?
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 14 2007 01:54 GMT
#213
It'll be harder to micro vs. lasers as running low hp units away, they will still get tagged by the long ass laser. Also I think maybe the mass of green lasers will kinda make it harder to distinguish whats going on
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 14 2007 01:55 GMT
#214
On June 14 2007 10:41 Woyn wrote:

Exactly, "Starcraft" fans were let down by Warcraft because it wasn't like SC. I for one expected to be more like War2 and I was pleased with the result. They never planned to make it like SC and have stated this plenty of times. It kills me that every thread turns into a WC3 vs SC with everyone bitching about how SC2 is gonna suck fot stupid reason. "Oh no the terrain looks like WC3." Its fucking grass, How else do you want it to look.

If SC is so perfect, then you can keep on playing it after SC2 but shut up and leave the rest of us to enjoy whats coming.


or you could play your WC3 and leave this alone for us to complain.
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 02:02:33
June 14 2007 02:02 GMT
#215
It's Starcraft 2, not an expansion pack to Starcraft 1. Get over it people.

The map does seem relatively bright for Starcraft though (the one where it shows the Soul Hunters).

I wonder how this whole Soul Hunter thing will turn out, seems interesting.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
June 14 2007 02:05 GMT
#216
why is every new nugget of scii info trolled on by the same few people? just don't buy the damn game if it isn't to your liking.

however, my only gripe is that the names of the new units are very uncreative.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 02:13:52
June 14 2007 02:08 GMT
#217
After watching the video again my biggest complaint is it seems a bit hard to follow the battles. The continous lasers don't help that at all either. I think one of the reasons is the units seem to take a real long time to die but that might just be because the game is slower and they purposely make the units stronger to keep them on screen. But if this game is actually going to turn into a spectator sport the battles need to be crisp and easy to follow.
On June 14 2007 11:05 dementus wrote:
why is every new nugget of scii info trolled on by the same few people? just don't buy the damn game if it isn't to your liking.

however, my only gripe is that the names of the new units are very uncreative.

I don't see how complaining about the game is trolling. Obviously people are complaining because they want to buy the game, they just want to make sure they like it. This is the same stupid attitude as when people that complain about their country are told to move somewhere else. Maybe they want to stay and improve it? Blizzard should be reading these forums and actually thinking about our criticisms, same with popular Korean forums.
dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 02:30:36
June 14 2007 02:27 GMT
#218
On June 14 2007 11:08 boghat wrote:
After watching the video again my biggest complaint is it seems a bit hard to follow the battles. The continous lasers don't help that at all either. I think one of the reasons is the units seem to take a real long time to die but that might just be because the game is slower and they purposely make the units stronger to keep them on screen. But if this game is actually going to turn into a spectator sport the battles need to be crisp and easy to follow.
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On June 14 2007 11:05 dementus wrote:
why is every new nugget of scii info trolled on by the same few people? just don't buy the damn game if it isn't to your liking.

however, my only gripe is that the names of the new units are very uncreative.

I don't see how complaining about the game is trolling. Obviously people are complaining because they want to buy the game, they just want to make sure they like it. This is the same stupid attitude as when people that complain about their country are told to move somewhere else. Maybe they want to stay and improve it? Blizzard should be reading these forums and actually thinking about our criticisms, same with popular Korean forums.


i don't deem those complaints trolling. i feel the criticisms about too many lasers/effects making battles hard to follow for spectators are valid and constructive. however, when all some people do is go: -_-;;;;; IT WILL BE A WC3 IN SPACE!!!1111ONE!!!11 it gets very annoying.
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
June 14 2007 02:30 GMT
#219
I think it looks awesome, I just think Soul Hunters seem like they wouldn't be needed, and all the explosions look like it is in slow motion.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 02:41:33
June 14 2007 02:39 GMT
#220
On June 14 2007 09:16 FA_Leinad wrote:
i like the blue more and dont forget it prolly shows the influence the dark templars now have on the protoss society and technology.

Btw its not like CnC invented cloak, also it doesnt really matter because not everything CnC did is bad and because it will be used and work totaly different in sc2 (we dont even know in which way buildings can be cloaked).

Hum, I don't remember being able to cloak buildings in CnC3, were you? O_O

Or were you only able to in earlier versions or something? Meh, I've never really played CnC games much.

On June 14 2007 10:41 Woyn wrote:
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On June 14 2007 10:06 Pretorian-[DMK] wrote:
@Tubster68

You sound the same as the people who beta tested war3, sucking up where it is.

"You have to play the game as it how it is supposed to be"
"You'll see the game is totally different in the next patch. The version you're playing is almost a month old."

Their track record with Warcraft 3 is pretty bad. And the staff is slightly different than that of their previous games. Unfortunately, despite the fact that Blizzard has a very talented group of developers, they severely lack people in their employ who can skillfully play the game at it's highest levels...well maybe Pillars can..and analyse what works and what doesn't. They most definitely NEED the derogatory comments that are being put forth by us, because these are vital to starcraft 2 being released a good game.

And guess what, they never fully restyled war3 and look what kind of garbage we got. Starcraft fanatics are just afraid history is gonna repeat itself...


Exactly, "Starcraft" fans were let down by Warcraft because it wasn't like SC. I for one expected to be more like War2 and I was pleased with the result. They never planned to make it like SC and have stated this plenty of times. It kills me that every thread turns into a WC3 vs SC with everyone bitching about how SC2 is gonna suck fot stupid reason. "Oh no the terrain looks like WC3." Its fucking grass, How else do you want it to look.

If SC is so perfect, then you can keep on playing it after SC2 but shut up and leave the rest of us to enjoy whats coming.

How could you be pleased if you were expecting a WC2 style game? Or did you mean you were expecting a WC2 style game but ended up enjoying what War3 was instead (cause it's uh quite different from war2 IMO).

(different, not worse, not trying to start a debate here !)
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